Man, this could completely change zvz. Fungal is now hard to aim. So if you have muta, it is no longer a given that you'll be able to knock them out of the air anymore. And add that to the faster damage and the +armour and you can just about kill a huge clump of roaches with three fungals in 12 seconds. That's pretty fucking huge.
As awesome as Archon Toilet is, I can see why they nerfed it. When you have a mothership out, it is actually pretty difficult to engage it, especially if there are some archons there, one good Vortex and it is lights out with almost no loss for the Protoss, it sucks that the Mothership is gonna suck after the nerf, but it feels like a Hero unit, it either has abilities that can completely change a battle and you need one, or it is mediocre and serves no real purpose
On February 26 2011 11:35 Dark-Storm wrote: YOU have got to be Fucking kidding. They took out the ability for an Archon toilet, remove the amulet for HT and make the Fucking BC as fast as the carrier when thats the only advantage it had vs carrier
BC is useless without the speed. And void rays are still better
On February 26 2011 11:36 onmach wrote: Man, this could completely change zvz. Fungal is now hard to aim. So if you have muta, it is no longer a given that you'll be able to knock them out of the air anymore. And add that to the faster damage and the +armour and you can just about kill a huge clump of roaches with three fungals in 12 seconds. That's pretty fucking huge.
On February 26 2011 11:36 Dommk wrote: As awesome as Archon Toilet is, I can see why they nerfed it. When you have a mothership out, it is actually pretty difficult to engage it, especially if there are some archons there, one good Vortex and it is lights out with almost no loss for the Protoss, it sucks that the Mothership is gonna suck after the nerf, but it feels like a Hero unit, it either has abilities that can completely change a battle and you need one, or it is mediocre and serves no real purpose
If you let your opponent get that much gas and spend it like that, you deserve to lose.
On February 26 2011 11:35 Dark-Storm wrote: YOU have got to be Fucking kidding. They took out the ability for an Archon toilet, remove the amulet for HT and make the Fucking BC as fast as the carrier when thats the only advantage it had vs carrier
BC is useless without the speed. And void rays are still better
1.5 seconds invulnarability after Vortex seem pretty overkill to me, so does a successfull archon toilet but wouldn't 0.5 or something around that be enough?
On February 26 2011 11:36 Dommk wrote: As awesome as Archon Toilet is, I can see why they nerfed it. When you have a mothership out, it is actually pretty difficult to engage it, especially if there are some archons there, one good Vortex and it is lights out with almost no loss for the Protoss, it sucks that the Mothership is gonna suck after the nerf, but it feels like a Hero unit, it either has abilities that can completely change a battle and you need one, or it is mediocre and serves no real purpose
If you let your opponent get that much gas and spend it like that, you deserve to lose.
Eh, If the game goes on long enough with 4+ bases, you can easily spare 400/400 for the mothership. Most likely you will already have Templar tech (DT or HT), so grabbing a few Archons isn't a stretch.
On February 26 2011 11:36 justinsroy wrote: Hi, im justinsroy, and im a race switcher
I really hope they change some of this stuff, HT with no energy upgrade..? Really?
"Hi Jroy!!"
Alot of Protoss' are spoiled. In BW they didn't have this Upgrade and storm was still scary. And dont argue damage. Units in BW didn't clump up as much.
EPT
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