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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 26 2011 02:46 GMT
#541
On February 26 2011 11:45 grumpyone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:38 ch33psh33p wrote:
Why are we ignoring the two MEGA NERFS to zerg?

Brood Lord up to 450/350

Overseer at 150/100

WTF?


Overseer at 250/100, when you include the cost of the overlord - compared to a cloaked observer at 25/75.

raven is 200 gas, much more expensive, but no QQ there
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 02:46:50
February 26 2011 02:46 GMT
#542
DP
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Lucius22
Profile Joined February 2011
172 Posts
February 26 2011 02:46 GMT
#543
On February 26 2011 11:45 Spekulatius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:39 GinDo wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:36 justinsroy wrote:
Hi, im justinsroy, and im a race switcher

I really hope they change some of this stuff, HT with no energy upgrade..? Really?

"Hi Jroy!!"



Alot of Protoss' are spoiled. In BW they didn't have this Upgrade and storm was still scary. And dont argue damage. Units in BW didn't clump up as much.


I absolutely agree. Plus, this will force protoss players to play with some foresight concerning the warp-ins of their templar. Which ain't a bad thing.


put emp on ravens and im fine, but ohwait: that would be some kind of terran nerf
sincerelysLeEpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
February 26 2011 02:46 GMT
#544
On February 26 2011 11:46 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:45 grumpyone wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:38 ch33psh33p wrote:
Why are we ignoring the two MEGA NERFS to zerg?

Brood Lord up to 450/350

Overseer at 150/100

WTF?


Overseer at 250/100, when you include the cost of the overlord - compared to a cloaked observer at 25/75.

raven is 200 gas, much more expensive, but no QQ there


and comsat = free.99
sLeEpy - Do what you do for not for fame or to impress anyone, but for God and you will succeed.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
February 26 2011 02:46 GMT
#545
On February 26 2011 11:44 MrBitter wrote:
As a Zerg player, I'm feeling really sad right now.


Hm I think reading those patch notes, TLO will be quite happy for zerg.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 26 2011 02:47 GMT
#546
On February 26 2011 11:33 Sumwar wrote:
"- Leagues will now be locked during the final weeks of the season. As a result players will not accumulate additional bonus points and will not be promoted or demoted out of their current division during this period.
- This will allow players to focus on moving up in their current league without being promoted during the final weeks of a season, and having to fight their way up from the bottom ranks of their new higher league."

Could someone explain this to me. Why are they locking the leagues? I can't figure out why that would do any good.


I'd assume "Season 2" will start shortly (couple months) after patch 1.3 goes live. Basically they'll be resetting the ladder so instead of say a silver player shooting to move into gold (and drop down to 90th in that division) he should be getting as high in his silver league as possible (go go rank 1). The entire league/division system is completely pointless in the first place and provides motivation to gullible people. There's really no sense in worrying about it.

The balance changes look pretty interesting. The warp in storms anywhere mechanic getting removed should require some play style changes. You can still leave a single HT at each vulnerable drop point where it will get enough energy for a storm to fend off drops. You just won't have them available anywhere on the map on the fly like before so you can change a losing battle into a win by warping in a couple storms.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 02:47:18
February 26 2011 02:47 GMT
#547
Something i have to add is that colossus is much more boring to play and watch than HT. Nerfing HT like this not only will be a big blow to protoss and force it to always have colossus, mainly vs T, and encorage terrans to go bio (really boring to watch). I'd rather see protoss using storms, and terran going mech. Incomparable times much more fun to watch and play. Please blizzard, listen to what the players are saying...
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 26 2011 02:47 GMT
#548
On February 26 2011 11:46 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:45 grumpyone wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:38 ch33psh33p wrote:
Why are we ignoring the two MEGA NERFS to zerg?

Brood Lord up to 450/350

Overseer at 150/100

WTF?


Overseer at 250/100, when you include the cost of the overlord - compared to a cloaked observer at 25/75.

raven is 200 gas, much more expensive, but no QQ there


You think they should give PDDs and Auto Turrets to Overseers too then?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Zrana
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom698 Posts
February 26 2011 02:47 GMT
#549
Something i'm wondering is, will fungal still deal the same dmg over it's shorter duration? i.e. more dps?

Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 02:48:33
February 26 2011 02:48 GMT
#550
Is it possible to dodge a fungal with stimmed marines btw?

edit: with the new projectile fungal
sincerelysLeEpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
February 26 2011 02:48 GMT
#551
On February 26 2011 11:47 Zrana wrote:
Something i'm wondering is, will fungal still deal the same dmg over it's shorter duration? i.e. more dps?



yes it will
sLeEpy - Do what you do for not for fame or to impress anyone, but for God and you will succeed.
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
February 26 2011 02:48 GMT
#552
Overseer cost is ridiculous.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 02:48:49
February 26 2011 02:48 GMT
#553
On February 26 2011 11:47 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:46 101toss wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:45 grumpyone wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:38 ch33psh33p wrote:
Why are we ignoring the two MEGA NERFS to zerg?

Brood Lord up to 450/350

Overseer at 150/100

WTF?


Overseer at 250/100, when you include the cost of the overlord - compared to a cloaked observer at 25/75.

raven is 200 gas, much more expensive, but no QQ there


You think they should give PDDs and Auto Turrets to Overseers too then?

overseers don't cost 200 gas and take 2 seconds to morph
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
February 26 2011 02:48 GMT
#554
As allready mentioned the ht nerf is quite devastating for the protoss game variaty. So blizzard only wants to see colossus? hm... kinda boring.
I would totally understand some kind of colossus nerf and even a reduction/removing of the amulet but then protoss needs either a gateway unit buff (what is most likely impossible due to 4gate) or a cheaper a faster ht tech. When i want to play ht's i need to go robo first because of the freakin flying dt's and then the other way around to ht's....
The stim "nerf" is quite unimportant (?) because what is more devastating to all other army compositions is the strength of stimed marines and not the timing attacks with stim. I would just suggest that the terren units can die to a stim when they have to low hp or just cant stim when they are below 10hp or something.^^
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 02:49:58
February 26 2011 02:48 GMT
#555
I'm glad about the HT nerf...now people (as in BW) will have to strategically build HT's early and let their energy accumulate before they get the super benefit of storm. The overseer/brood lord thing has to be a joke...rofl 250 mins, 100 gas for a detector is hilariously broken.

Absolutely hate the alerts...that's what skill is all about, knowing in your head when stuff is ready. They make high templars require skill, but then make macro mechanics a joke? I don't get it.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Blackboxeq
Profile Joined August 2010
United States99 Posts
February 26 2011 02:49 GMT
#556
On February 26 2011 11:40 vrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:37 Temperance wrote:
Overseer cost increased.

[image loading]

Used to be 50 Minerals and 100 Gas to morph.

...........................................................WHAT?





i have the explanation.... "day [9] "
"because if i diden't it would deflate my ego" - Me
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
February 26 2011 02:49 GMT
#557
On February 26 2011 11:48 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:47 FliedLice wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:46 101toss wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:45 grumpyone wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:38 ch33psh33p wrote:
Why are we ignoring the two MEGA NERFS to zerg?

Brood Lord up to 450/350

Overseer at 150/100

WTF?


Overseer at 250/100, when you include the cost of the overlord - compared to a cloaked observer at 25/75.

raven is 200 gas, much more expensive, but no QQ there


You think they should give PDDs and Auto Turrets to Overseers too then?

overseers don't cost 200 gas and take 2 seconds to morph


Can you contradict yourself any more?
secret - never again
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 26 2011 02:49 GMT
#558
Grandmaster league is disappointing but atleast it somewhat stops random people making it :l
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
February 26 2011 02:49 GMT
#559
I like the not displaying losses anymore.

Should encourage more people to ladder, and not be scared of losing.
#1 Terran hater
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
February 26 2011 02:49 GMT
#560
On February 26 2011 11:48 mierin wrote:
I'm glad about the HT nerf...now people (as in BW) will have to strategically build HT's early and let their energy accumulate before they get the super benefit of storm. The overseer/brood lord thing has to be a joke...rofl 250 mins, 100 gas for a detector is hilariously broken.

Probably a glitch
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
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