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SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
June 02 2011 12:55 GMT
#461
On June 02 2011 21:08 The-EliTe wrote:
Is it possible that the division modifiers have been reset as well? Like instead of +63, they are something else? I was looking at some master ranked players graphs that got promoted after season 1 ended and it seems as if the modifier is +64 i got +128 for one and +64 for the other after doing (Points in Diamond) - (Points in Masters) - 150 and then finding a common denominator. Although the -150 could also have been changed to a different number :\



Yes, it could. It could also be different for each region.
Kyamo
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada129 Posts
June 02 2011 13:23 GMT
#462
On June 02 2011 21:08 The-EliTe wrote:
Is it possible that the division modifiers have been reset as well? Like instead of +63, they are something else? I was looking at some master ranked players graphs that got promoted after season 1 ended and it seems as if the modifier is +64 i got +128 for one and +64 for the other after doing (Points in Diamond) - (Points in Masters) - 150 and then finding a common denominator. Although the -150 could also have been changed to a different number :\




Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the calculations you are doing, but I don't believe you can get any information about the division modifiers by looking at the points of people who have been recently promoted. Promoted (or demoted) people always get spent bonus pool +73, or in the case of the beginning of season 2, everyone started at 0 points.
VPFaith
Profile Joined April 2011
United States261 Posts
June 03 2011 03:29 GMT
#463
Hi Blizzard, I am currently #1 Masters in the world, 22 win streak, 14of which are Grandmasters, and Im favored vs Grandmasters top 30 to top 100. How come I am still not promoted. Thanks. Anyone else experiencing this?
Never Give Up
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
June 03 2011 03:49 GMT
#464
On June 03 2011 12:29 VPFaith wrote:
Hi Blizzard, I am currently #1 Masters in the world, 22 win streak, 14of which are Grandmasters, and Im favored vs Grandmasters top 30 to top 100. How come I am still not promoted. Thanks. Anyone else experiencing this?


To get promoted to Grandmaster, there has to be an open GM slot and you need to have the highest MMR moving average outside of the current GMs. Your points won't necessarily be an accurate indicator of your MMR. If you have the highest MMR moving average out of all the non-GM players and there's a slot open, you'll get promoted after you win your next game.
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VPFaith
Profile Joined April 2011
United States261 Posts
June 03 2011 03:52 GMT
#465
Yeah, still not promoting.
Never Give Up
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
June 03 2011 04:14 GMT
#466
On June 03 2011 12:52 VPFaith wrote:
Yeah, still not promoting.


Right now, NA region GM league is full, GM league can't have more than 200 players, so you'll need to wait someone to drop.
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
June 03 2011 04:18 GMT
#467
what's up Excalibur? Love this thread!! (makes me look so smart in front of my friends as i school them bout the facts of the ladder)

But any ways onto my question... I'm in diamond (so i can't see my w/l ) so i am forced to use my opponents ladder rank as my best gauge of whether or not I'm improving my MMR (cause I'm always gonna be closish to 50% right?) But since diamond has 7 tiers how can I at all gauge the relative skill of my opponents against my own to see if I'm improving :-/ . Any Advice from THE excalibur would be most awesomely appreciated
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
June 03 2011 04:20 GMT
#468
On June 03 2011 13:18 stokes17 wrote:
what's up Excalibur? Love this thread!! (makes me look so smart in front of my friends as i school them bout the facts of the ladder)

But any ways onto my question... I'm in diamond (so i can't see my w/l ) so i am forced to use my opponents ladder rank as my best gauge of whether or not I'm improving my MMR (cause I'm always gonna be closish to 50% right?) But since diamond has 7 tiers how can I at all gauge the relative skill of my opponents against my own to see if I'm improving :-/ . Any Advice from THE excalibur would be most awesomely appreciated


Keep track of your adjusted points. If it's increasing your MMR is increasing most likely.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
June 03 2011 04:23 GMT
#469
very good guide. would suggest to new players.. does get a bit confusing at points, though.
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Striferawr
Profile Joined June 2011
Argentina10 Posts
June 03 2011 04:33 GMT
#470
Great guide ! thanks a lot
sTsCompleted
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States380 Posts
June 03 2011 05:31 GMT
#471
That took quite a bit of time but seriously it was worth it
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
June 03 2011 17:18 GMT
#472
Im sorry if this has been answered already, but i have noticed that my opponents seem to have a different skill level depending on what race i chose . For example my opponents when i play zerg are strongest and also highest up on ladder , protoss is sort of in the middle and when i play random they are a lot weaker. It also shows on their ladder ratings etc. Is this just a coincidence or intended since I perform better with certain races?
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
June 03 2011 17:22 GMT
#473
On June 04 2011 02:18 Erandorr wrote:
Im sorry if this has been answered already, but i have noticed that my opponents seem to have a different skill level depending on what race i chose . For example my opponents when i play zerg are strongest and also highest up on ladder , protoss is sort of in the middle and when i play random they are a lot weaker. It also shows on their ladder ratings etc. Is this just a coincidence or intended since I perform better with certain races?


Coincidence.
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.Madness
Profile Joined March 2011
United States94 Posts
June 04 2011 14:49 GMT
#474
great and informative post, good job.
I'm not bad, I'm just incredibly good at sucking.
nathias
Profile Joined May 2011
Slovenia2 Posts
June 05 2011 15:12 GMT
#475
huh, I don't get this. The MMR should get you to a tier where you will be winning 50%, but its not doing that for me, neither has it in the past. How many games does it usually take for the MMR to reach a treshold (if you are winning more or less 100%)?
You cannot fuck the future, sir. The future fucks you.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12252 Posts
June 05 2011 16:18 GMT
#476
On June 06 2011 00:12 nathias wrote:
huh, I don't get this. The MMR should get you to a tier where you will be winning 50%, but its not doing that for me, neither has it in the past. How many games does it usually take for the MMR to reach a treshold (if you are winning more or less 100%)?


That depends entirely on how inaccurate the initial placement was in the spectrum. If you're a GM player starting out in Plat, maybe about 30 games or so. If you're a GM player starting out in Bronze, maybe more than double that. It's also going to take more games if you've previously demonstrated that you belong at a certain MMR range via winning around 50%.
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nathias
Profile Joined May 2011
Slovenia2 Posts
June 05 2011 21:43 GMT
#477
Oh, I thought it works faster. I'm a noob, I started before the ladder reset was winning about 70% in bronze, got placed after 1 placement match in bronze again, continuing to win about 70% and now i'm winning 100%, about 25 games in a row, waiting to be placed in silver, but I guess it takes longer...
You cannot fuck the future, sir. The future fucks you.
Sina92
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1303 Posts
June 05 2011 23:31 GMT
#478
Amazing!
My penis is 15 inches long, I'm a Harvard professor and look better than Brad Pitt and Jake Gyllenhaal combined.
The-EliTe
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada10 Posts
June 06 2011 12:19 GMT
#479
Ok i had a weird problem after my recent promotion to diamond. In every game after my promotion that I played, I would be slightly favoured against all my opponents but they would all be in high diamond/low masters. I barely won and eventually that wore off but why was it doing that in the first place?
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
June 06 2011 14:12 GMT
#480
On June 06 2011 21:19 The-EliTe wrote:
Ok i had a weird problem after my recent promotion to diamond. In every game after my promotion that I played, I would be slightly favoured against all my opponents but they would all be in high diamond/low masters. I barely won and eventually that wore off but why was it doing that in the first place?


Read here and/or here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273&currentpage=22#435

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2593041279#2
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