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ucbEntilZha
Profile Joined May 2010
United States96 Posts
February 21 2011 10:45 GMT
#61
Only thing I ask, based on the fact that someone mentioned eventually they want Code A casting pair and then Tastosis for Code S is to make sure that they complement Kelly with an analysis based caster. I don't know how knowledgable/wanting Torch is on casting, but he is already over there so maybe he could?
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HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
February 21 2011 10:46 GMT
#62
Dude she just said Huk had "Bieber-Hair", she wins.
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
February 21 2011 10:48 GMT
#63
On February 21 2011 19:27 OptimusYale wrote:
Starcraft 2 is coming out!

Nerds: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR BROOD WARS IS WAY BETTER IM NOT GIVING SC2 TIME TO EVOLVE!

New observer system in GSL

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR TASTELESS SHOULD HAVE THE OBSERVING RIGHTS BECAUSE ITS CHANGED AND WE DONT WANT TO GIVE IT TIME!

New commentator who's a girl

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, IT SHOULD BE TASTELESS AND ARTOSIS CASTING 300 GAMES A DAY!!!! LETS NOT GIVE HER A CHANCE!


Seriously nerds, life's going to change and you have to adapt. The reason your socially awkward is because you don't like change. She's good, her accent is a non issue, she commentates well. Remember how nervous you were on your first day of school, or your first day of work. Now put that in front of a huge international audience and you'll imagine how difficult it will be! Stop the whining and live with the change. She's better than the korean female commentator, and having a female speak in my ear makes me feel much less gay than listening than 2 guys all the time!

Her knowledge is very good, her humor will get more natural as she settles down, her accent will become neutral in time, her english is perfect. To those who say it's not, have you ever taught people who are learning english as a second language? Their lexical choice is often disjointed and their grammar has minor inflectional errors. As a language major and an english grammar teacher, I would say shes better grammatically than I guess 70% of native english speakers because we change the grammar to be more conversational and often its wrong!


Her English isn't the problem, her accent is. YOU may consider it a non-issue, but I certainly don't. As a Language Major and an English Grammar Teacher, you are more used to listening to people with accents, and so are biased. I can assure you that it most definitely matters to people without such experience (which happens to be a vast majority of people). What makes it worse is that she tries to talk too fast for having said accent.

Aside from that, the high pitch voice on top of all that makes it borderline unbearable for me, at least.

It isn't impossible for her to get better, but her voice isn't going to change, and if her english is that good and she hasn't lost the accent yet, then she probably never will.
dan1mal
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands86 Posts
February 21 2011 10:59 GMT
#64
On February 21 2011 19:43 OptimusYale wrote:
Im english and I abstain from voting because regardless of who goes in they're all the same in England.

And what do you mean as a liberal, her grammar is equal to that of a native speaker if not better.

And I say nerds and you flame me, tastosis say nerd and you take it as a compliment. I didn't mean it in a bad way but serious gamers tend to hate change more than any other gamer demographic! I think its because in the hardcore scene there is longer life on games, but you have to accept that at some point something has to change.

You don't complain when John makes grammatical errors in the translations. It urks me at times when he makes silly small mistakes, but Kelly makes 0 and if you think she is making mistakes then you are mistaken. Anyway I'm pretty sure she has English as a native language, alas it's an official language of Singapore, and as far as I know its taught the same as US English, so chances are she just speaks with a different dialect/ accent, live with it, americans have different accents, allow the rest of the world to!


no-one is attacking her grammar, just her anoying voice, and limited game knowledge..
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Monasou
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States218 Posts
February 21 2011 11:01 GMT
#65
HEW COWMS DAH BAWING BOOM!
- Here comes the baneling bombs.

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Whizon
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands64 Posts
February 21 2011 11:01 GMT
#66
So far I can only say the one thing I noticed as "annoying" was the word ZEElot. However, having said ZEElot for 6 or so years myself before getting a grip as a non-native English speaking fellow, I can hardly blame anyone for that.

I think it's a good thing in essence, that new casters are getting in. Giving them a chance is the least you can do. It's natural for most people, if not all people - as this thread proves - to rage, stick to "nostalgia" and attack changes when they appears. While in reality change is not ever near as bad as people presume it will be.

Time will tell.

..Freaking zeelots!
Live and learn.
BroodjeBaller
Profile Joined January 2011
125 Posts
February 21 2011 11:05 GMT
#67
I didnt know her but I think she is doing really good and its nice to have some variation.
Daavee
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany11 Posts
February 21 2011 11:09 GMT
#68
On February 21 2011 19:48 Sylvr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 19:27 OptimusYale wrote:
Starcraft 2 is coming out!

Nerds: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR BROOD WARS IS WAY BETTER IM NOT GIVING SC2 TIME TO EVOLVE!

New observer system in GSL

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR TASTELESS SHOULD HAVE THE OBSERVING RIGHTS BECAUSE ITS CHANGED AND WE DONT WANT TO GIVE IT TIME!

New commentator who's a girl

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, IT SHOULD BE TASTELESS AND ARTOSIS CASTING 300 GAMES A DAY!!!! LETS NOT GIVE HER A CHANCE!


Seriously nerds, life's going to change and you have to adapt. The reason your socially awkward is because you don't like change. She's good, her accent is a non issue, she commentates well. Remember how nervous you were on your first day of school, or your first day of work. Now put that in front of a huge international audience and you'll imagine how difficult it will be! Stop the whining and live with the change. She's better than the korean female commentator, and having a female speak in my ear makes me feel much less gay than listening than 2 guys all the time!

Her knowledge is very good, her humor will get more natural as she settles down, her accent will become neutral in time, her english is perfect. To those who say it's not, have you ever taught people who are learning english as a second language? Their lexical choice is often disjointed and their grammar has minor inflectional errors. As a language major and an english grammar teacher, I would say shes better grammatically than I guess 70% of native english speakers because we change the grammar to be more conversational and often its wrong!


Her English isn't the problem, her accent is. YOU may consider it a non-issue, but I certainly don't. As a Language Major and an English Grammar Teacher, you are more used to listening to people with accents, and so are biased. I can assure you that it most definitely matters to people without such experience (which happens to be a vast majority of people). What makes it worse is that she tries to talk too fast for having said accent.

Aside from that, the high pitch voice on top of all that makes it borderline unbearable for me, at least.

It isn't impossible for her to get better, but her voice isn't going to change, and if her english is that good and she hasn't lost the accent yet, then she probably never will.


I actually unterstand only Tasteless, not listening to her as it is too difficult and I want to see and concentrate on the match.
Klyvaren
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden26 Posts
February 21 2011 11:09 GMT
#69
Alot of the hate feels unmotivated. However, the Sea-lots are getting on my nerves .
She needs a analytical counterpart. Right now it's two of the same style commentating.
Swedish Hårdbröd is the perfect excuse to eat butter.
Fisher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States119 Posts
February 21 2011 11:10 GMT
#70
GSL has become somewhat painful to watch sadly :/ Between the accent and lacking in game knowledge I dunno if I can watch with the volume on anymore. Tasteless is even thrown off by her lol.
BroodjeBaller
Profile Joined January 2011
125 Posts
February 21 2011 11:15 GMT
#71
On February 21 2011 20:09 Daavee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2011 19:48 Sylvr wrote:
On February 21 2011 19:27 OptimusYale wrote:
Starcraft 2 is coming out!

Nerds: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR BROOD WARS IS WAY BETTER IM NOT GIVING SC2 TIME TO EVOLVE!

New observer system in GSL

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, ROAR TASTELESS SHOULD HAVE THE OBSERVING RIGHTS BECAUSE ITS CHANGED AND WE DONT WANT TO GIVE IT TIME!

New commentator who's a girl

NERDS: WE DONT LIKE CHANGE, IT SHOULD BE TASTELESS AND ARTOSIS CASTING 300 GAMES A DAY!!!! LETS NOT GIVE HER A CHANCE!


Seriously nerds, life's going to change and you have to adapt. The reason your socially awkward is because you don't like change. She's good, her accent is a non issue, she commentates well. Remember how nervous you were on your first day of school, or your first day of work. Now put that in front of a huge international audience and you'll imagine how difficult it will be! Stop the whining and live with the change. She's better than the korean female commentator, and having a female speak in my ear makes me feel much less gay than listening than 2 guys all the time!

Her knowledge is very good, her humor will get more natural as she settles down, her accent will become neutral in time, her english is perfect. To those who say it's not, have you ever taught people who are learning english as a second language? Their lexical choice is often disjointed and their grammar has minor inflectional errors. As a language major and an english grammar teacher, I would say shes better grammatically than I guess 70% of native english speakers because we change the grammar to be more conversational and often its wrong!


Her English isn't the problem, her accent is. YOU may consider it a non-issue, but I certainly don't. As a Language Major and an English Grammar Teacher, you are more used to listening to people with accents, and so are biased. I can assure you that it most definitely matters to people without such experience (which happens to be a vast majority of people). What makes it worse is that she tries to talk too fast for having said accent.

Aside from that, the high pitch voice on top of all that makes it borderline unbearable for me, at least.

It isn't impossible for her to get better, but her voice isn't going to change, and if her english is that good and she hasn't lost the accent yet, then she probably never will.


I actually unterstand only Tasteless, not listening to her as it is too difficult and I want to see and concentrate on the match.

Well maybe that has something to do with your own english. I dont have any problem with understanding her.
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
February 21 2011 11:17 GMT
#72
for me, its the lack of english and less of the accent that is bothering me. it seems like she cant exactly express her thoughts well. but I guess it could be nervousness, so what can I say.
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clampOK
Profile Joined May 2010
United States17 Posts
February 21 2011 11:18 GMT
#73
On February 21 2011 20:10 Fisher wrote:
GSL has become somewhat painful to watch sadly :/ Between the accent and lacking in game knowledge I dunno if I can watch with the volume on anymore. Tasteless is even thrown off by her lol.

Agreed, i find watching this painful because of her voice, the way she messes with tasteless's normal flow, and she insinuated that she and tastless were the casting archon during the cast...that's just unforgivable.
justanother
Profile Joined February 2011
43 Posts
February 21 2011 11:19 GMT
#74
Being a Singaporean I can understand Kelly 90% of the time but her pronunciation does slip occasionally. On a side note, haters need to just chill and be more tolerant of the accent. It's more likely that this is the first time they're actually hearing a Singaporean cast, so it sounds really foreign at first. Honestly, I think people are just being too prejudiced against Kelly to give her (and her accent) a proper chance. You can tell she's trying hard, so props to her. Just need some open-mindedness and time to get used to her.
Ikkuh
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands170 Posts
February 21 2011 11:23 GMT
#75
zeelots ftw
This is Aru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-21 11:26:26
February 21 2011 11:24 GMT
#76
Why do you guys want to work Artosis to death?

Regardless of what you think about Kelly, and this was her very first day, the fact remains that they need more casters than just Tasteless and Artosis. An argument based on the fact that someone isn't Artosis is without merit, as the goal is to have someone else that isn't Artosis.

Tastosis may be your favorite casting Archon, but they're both still mere mortals. Lets not burn them out.

EDIT: Also keep in mind, I'm sure Kelly and others will be looking back at today's broadcast over the next day or two and looking at what she can do better. It's no different than watching a replay and seeing where you could do better. Give her a chance to improve.
aka Kasaaz
squintz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
February 21 2011 11:24 GMT
#77
On February 21 2011 20:19 justanother wrote:
Being a Singaporean I can understand Kelly 90% of the time but her pronunciation does slip occasionally. On a side note, haters need to just chill and be more tolerant of the accent. It's more likely that this is the first time they're actually hearing a Singaporean cast, so it sounds really foreign at first. Honestly, I think people are just being too prejudiced against Kelly to give her (and her accent) a proper chance. You can tell she's trying hard, so props to her. Just need some open-mindedness and time to get used to her.


I think she's doing a great job for the first day of casting. There's gonna be lots of haters though, regardless of how well she casts just because of her accent, which is totally unfair. Mind you Americans needed Trainspotting to be subtitled when the movie came out in theaters LOL.
RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
February 21 2011 11:28 GMT
#78
hm im sad the gomtv player really doesnt work and didnt buy acc yet fuck I wanna watch and hear it, need my dutch online banking system back!! ;( but tbh I think she'll do fine, I don't mind her accent, its different but not bad for me personally ;p
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Sindsygafnatur
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark265 Posts
February 21 2011 11:30 GMT
#79
Dear Internet.

Please stfu about accents. I'm sick of these elitist views on how global casting should only be done in one form of english.

"OMG I don't understand none of dat asian-speak!" "she don't speak as I!" "I hates her."

People speak differently in different parts of the world, embrace it. It's what's makes the world colorfull and interesting. And come on, if you can't understand what she's saying, you should get your brain checked. And the " Oh noes, her voices is to high", she's a woman, you have to learn to live with it someday.

This should be read in the thickest, most disgusting danish accent, hailing from the proud peninsular of Jutland.
squintz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
February 21 2011 11:32 GMT
#80
On February 21 2011 20:30 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
Dear Internet.

Please stfu about accents. I'm sick of these elitist views on how global casting should only be done in one form of english.

"OMG I don't understand none of dat asian-speak!" "she don't speak as I!" "I hates her."

People speak differently in different parts of the world, embrace it. It's what's makes the world colorfull and interesting. And come on, if you can't understand what she's saying, you should get your brain checked. And the " Oh noes, her voices is to high", she's a woman, you have to learn to live with it someday.

This should be read in the thickest, most disgusting danish accent, hailing from the proud peninsular of Jutland.


Don't you mean Dear America? Seems like 90% of the haters have that ignorant attitude towards her have United States posted as their location.
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