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To be honest I was sceptical on how Kelly would do casting GSL, but after today i think she will do just fine.
She really got chucked in the deep end by having to cast instead of Artosis or Tasteless, she settled in nicely by the end of the day and once she has had time to grow a connection with the two I don't see any problems.
People are obviously going to be against her given how she is technically replacing one of the most popular members of the Starcraft community but with time i'm sure she will will grow on all the Tastosis fanboys
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Have you guys never met Singaporeans in college? Her accent is completely normal.
I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones).
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On February 21 2011 21:23 Vehemus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 21:21 thanhbao86 wrote:On February 21 2011 20:54 dan1mal wrote:On February 21 2011 20:30 Sindsygafnatur wrote: Dear Internet.
Please stfu about accents. I'm sick of these elitist views on how global casting should only be done in one form of english.
"OMG I don't understand none of dat asian-speak!" "she don't speak as I!" "I hates her."
People speak differently in different parts of the world, embrace it. It's what's makes the world colorfull and interesting. And come on, if you can't understand what she's saying, you should get your brain checked. And the " Oh noes, her voices is to high", she's a woman, you have to learn to live with it someday.
This should be read in the thickest, most disgusting danish accent, hailing from the proud peninsular of Jutland. No-one is saying her english has to be perfect, but Honestly her voice is almost impossible to listen to, and its not because its "her voices is to high because shes a woman", she just has an anoying voice... And regardless of how good her english is, or how anoying her voice is. Her game knowledge just isnt good enough to cast the GSL. I mean it is the freaking gsl, THE most prestigious tournament there is atm, therefore it should have casters who know EXACTLY what they're talking about.. +1 People need to rewatch those games and see how many wrong statements she made. Casters need to have knowledge about the game. Period. If you're expecting Artosis' level of game knowledge, you're not going to get that from either Tasteless or Kelly. I don't think it's fair to rip Kelly for incorrect statements when Tasteless makes them all the time as well.
And now you have two casters without an analyzer. I come to watch GSL to learn also because it is the highest level of play. I do play the game and i know what is going on but i am no pro to know the reasons behind those actions. Hence i need an analyzer like Artosis.
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On February 21 2011 20:32 squintz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 20:30 Sindsygafnatur wrote: Dear Internet.
Please stfu about accents. I'm sick of these elitist views on how global casting should only be done in one form of english.
"OMG I don't understand none of dat asian-speak!" "she don't speak as I!" "I hates her."
People speak differently in different parts of the world, embrace it. It's what's makes the world colorfull and interesting. And come on, if you can't understand what she's saying, you should get your brain checked. And the " Oh noes, her voices is to high", she's a woman, you have to learn to live with it someday.
This should be read in the thickest, most disgusting danish accent, hailing from the proud peninsular of Jutland. Don't you mean Dear America? Seems like 90% of the haters have that ignorant attitude towards her have United States posted as their location. Haha so true .
It's always like this aswell, not just in this particular case.
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Kelly is great. Her energy and enthusiasm really showed in the games today. She does get over excited here and there, but still does a good job at pointing out everything that is happening on the screen. I also like her attempts to open discussions with Tasteless as well, very classy.
Though I wish she improves her catchphrase bank a bit, and avoid saying 'Oh my god' and 'he's like'. Still, it's her first day on the field. It's one hell of a nerve-wrecking position to be in. I am definitely very keen to hear more casts from her.
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its nice to see all these supportive posts but after listening today i think i will just wait for codeS
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On February 21 2011 21:23 Vehemus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 21:21 thanhbao86 wrote:On February 21 2011 20:54 dan1mal wrote:On February 21 2011 20:30 Sindsygafnatur wrote: Dear Internet.
Please stfu about accents. I'm sick of these elitist views on how global casting should only be done in one form of english.
"OMG I don't understand none of dat asian-speak!" "she don't speak as I!" "I hates her."
People speak differently in different parts of the world, embrace it. It's what's makes the world colorfull and interesting. And come on, if you can't understand what she's saying, you should get your brain checked. And the " Oh noes, her voices is to high", she's a woman, you have to learn to live with it someday.
This should be read in the thickest, most disgusting danish accent, hailing from the proud peninsular of Jutland. No-one is saying her english has to be perfect, but Honestly her voice is almost impossible to listen to, and its not because its "her voices is to high because shes a woman", she just has an anoying voice... And regardless of how good her english is, or how anoying her voice is. Her game knowledge just isnt good enough to cast the GSL. I mean it is the freaking gsl, THE most prestigious tournament there is atm, therefore it should have casters who know EXACTLY what they're talking about.. +1 People need to rewatch those games and see how many wrong statements she made. Casters need to have knowledge about the game. Period. If you're expecting Artosis' level of game knowledge, you're not going to get that from either Tasteless or Kelly. I don't think it's fair to rip Kelly for incorrect statements when Tasteless makes them all the time as well.
I do think Tasteless can analyze the match. He did a good job in BW, and he is in master. He is no pro but he can analyze the match fine. When he casts with Artosis, he just lets Artosis do that job because Artosis does it better. Kelly just does not have the knowledge to do it but she tries to do it and that is when i have problem. Everyone has their job in this casting, just do it well and dont try to be smart.
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On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote: Have you guys never met Singaporeans in college? Her accent is completely normal.
I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones).
Um, what? The English are butchering the English language now?
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LOL Tasteless doesn't have game knowledge? Did we forget how he came to be a caster?
Kelly was fine even though her nervousness did show through (often, in fact). Sometimes she had issues with over-explanation, sometimes her humor seemed off. I'm sure she'll find her comfort zone.
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I'm not too worried about the accent. Sure it isn't easy to understand but i'm sure after a couple days we'll have no problems understanding her.
Lack of game knowledge however is annoying. It's not as bad as Jason Lee (who had NO game knowledge) but i hope they find some1 with game knowledge to cast with her.
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On February 21 2011 21:34 Trang wrote:Um, what? The English are butchering the English language now? Exactly my thought!
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On February 21 2011 19:17 SeltzerPlease wrote: And you are making some major assumptions here about GomTV's thought process. Until you know all the casters who applied and how they presented themselves in their applications, I don't think you are qualified to make that assessment.
Peace, love, and open-mindedness.
To be honest Seltzer, aside from her gender, she is just not fit for casting something like gsl. hate to say it, but its true. i would be thrilled if there was a women caster on the english casting team (teach the female korean caster english maybe?) but not her. her english is not the greatest, nor does she grasp the proper way to pronounce things/units in starcraft. she may have some game knowledge, but its her accent and her personality that will not make her a good caster.
Though both can, and most likely will be improved. but for now she should not be casting GSL. GSL is the higest level tournament right now, and she simply does not have the experince. i'm sure if she dedicates herself to casting for a few months, she could come back to gsl and do well.
To be honest there really are not any good english female casters yet, there are some who have ponential, but none who really do well. The only women english speaking caster i could see doing well would be anna, and thats mainly because she has the pulbic speaking experince, so she is able to present her thoughts clearly and well, and with having personality.
its not a matter of gender though, its a matter of gaming experince and personality. for now the female casters do not have the same experince. i'm sure in a couple of years we will see more english casters who are female.
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On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote:
I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones).
supreme american arrogance, right here. come back when you can actually spell the words in the language we gave you.
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I think the new caster did a good job. Her voice is a bit awkward, but every caster has their own unique style, thats what makes them interesting and characteristic.
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On February 21 2011 21:37 Weavel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 21:34 Trang wrote:On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote:
Um, what? The English are butchering the English language now? Exactly my thought! uh yea i'm gonna have to give this a ditto
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On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote: Have you guys never met Singaporeans in college? Her accent is completely normal.
I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones). UK butchers dont cast sports ... they are busy in their butchery. They would be as inappropriate as anyone else with such a heavy accent.
Singaporean may be "normal" for Singapore, but listen to it with the ears of someone who is NOT used to several letters of the alphabet being vewwy poowly pwonounced and you might see where the problem lies. Try to listen to it through the ears of a non-native english speaker ...
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I feel raped and not in a good way.
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On February 21 2011 21:40 scoville wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2011 21:26 igotmyown wrote:
I don't see how it's any worse than hearing people from the UK butcher the English language, or their derivatives (Australian, various European ones). supreme american arrogance, right here. come back when you can actually spell the words in the language we gave you. haha exactly what i thought
whats with all the negativ blabla? her accent isnt that bad, her voice isnt annyoing! i never heard her cast, so i dont know the quality of her cast but i am pretty sure gom wouldnt chose some random newby to cast their code a matches
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It seems like i overestimated the average persons understanding of english, i have no problem at all understanding what she's saying and english is my second language. Another good caster with a heavy accent is rotterdam and i have no problem understanding him either.
This entire thing really shows why there are so few female casters and players, i looked at her blog and she's getting harassed through messages etc. Some have constructive criticism and that's all good but most are just straight out harassing her. I would guess she's pretty used to it though, but it'll probably go to a whole other level now since GSL is so popular.
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