Warping Units’ Damage Taken - Page 5

On March 02 2011 19:15 freetgy wrote:
I would like that Warp-ins took additional damage since it would severly weaken cheesy warpgate all-ins, but in the otherside how should P defend drops? if they even take additional damage from the most costeffectiv combo M&M?...

On March 02 2011 19:34 freetgy wrote:
and give him time more time to kill important stuff?
i don't even mind nexus snipes, since you are when macroed well most times alittle bit ahead.

Terran wasting 2000dmg for doing 400 minerals dmg on a nexus instead of killing like Robo/RoboBay/TC/Templar Arcives
that is damage that hurts a lot more cause it delays essential tech to survive incoming pushes.

On March 02 2011 23:09 Thrombozyt wrote:
And by what logic do you get a refund, when your warpin is canceled due to the destruction of your pylon?

On March 02 2011 23:09 Thrombozyt wrote:
So giving him 8 seconds instead of 5 by warping in out of range drops become imba? Damn.. how do other races cope, when their units take 25+ seconds until they pop out of their structure?

And by what logic do you get a refund, when your warpin is canceled due to the destruction of your pylon?

Warping in is what balance the slow movement of Protoss Units out.
Last edit: 2011-03-02 23:21:04
other Races have faster units in general, thanks for not understanding the game...

On March 02 2011 23:21 ch4ppi wrote:
This has nothing to do with the topic, its not about moving faster form A-B. Blizzard originally stated that they want the Protoss to be sure to warp in at safe locations, because otherwise they will loose the warping units easily.

On March 02 2011 23:33 freetgy wrote:


well i don't know that,
but there would be few reason to get warpgates, if Protoss Units were as mobile as Zerg, obviously.
Movement speed of Army plays a huge role in defending the bases.

Why can Zerg secure a 3,4 base so easily? because it is so mobile.
Why can Terran secure a 3 very easily? because PF+Repair make it easier to defend
Why can Protoss secure a 3? because he can position his army closer to the third due to the Warp-in mechanic to buy time. P doesn't have has good base defense (thats Terran) neither has he Speed (thats Zerg), warpgate is what makes up for that.

Stimmed M&M can easily outrun a P Army even if it comes to deflect the push, that is why well executed Drops are so hard to defend, and why warpins are necessary, if the P units were alittle faster, nobody would warp in units but defend with their actual army.

On March 03 2011 02:13 TedJustice wrote:
Nice experiment. I think what they mean by "extra damage" though is just that they can be killed quicker since they don't start with full hp. The earlier you target fire a warping in unit, the more "extra damage" you're doing to it, in essence.

On March 03 2011 02:23 Kralic wrote:
I always targetted warped in units because I also thought they took more damage.

I think the assumption of extra damage could have been attributed to if you react quickly enough you can kill them quicker because they warp in starting at 1hp or something low and as the time goes on they get more of their hp until it is 100% warped in.

You can kill units warping in quickly if you react fast enough.

On March 03 2011 02:27 ZergForHire wrote:
I think the warp in technology is fine as far as balance goes. This is fair in comparison to Zerg's overbundant amount of larva and Terran's ability to train infantry in pairs.

But warp gate technology should be trained indvidually from each gateway, just like that of reactor and techlab. investing 50/50 and having the ability to warp in units in 5 seconds doesnt seem right as far as balance goes. However, i grant that the balance is fair as far as production goes, just not the tech required to get there.