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cheapfood
Profile Joined January 2011
United States56 Posts
February 10 2011 02:15 GMT
#21
awesome! really liked the first episode, hopefully the replies arent the same though.

its awesome hearing two great pros on what they think about the game for such a long time.
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
February 10 2011 02:16 GMT
#22
I wonder how they find time to do this.
www.twitter.com/rootillusion & www.facebook.com/illusionsc2
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
February 10 2011 02:19 GMT
#23
On February 10 2011 11:13 infinity21 wrote:
IdrA completely glossed over phoenix colo unit mix in TvP... Yes rine/viking will do just fine against phoenix harass BUT at the time of engagement, before vikings can do any significant damage, the marines will melt to a significant number of colo. Then T has to make the choice to ignore phoenix and fire at the colo which may kill off 2-4 but at the cost of air dominance. Then the phoenix will simply lift up half of your remaining marauders and clean up.

My point is, after a certain point, colo/phoenix can't be cracked with simple mmm+viking.


Terrans imo should try to mix in one or two thors. Pheonix are light units and tend to clump.
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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 02:26:12
February 10 2011 02:23 GMT
#24
Should be fun.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
February 10 2011 02:24 GMT
#25
On February 10 2011 11:19 Philip2110 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 11:13 infinity21 wrote:
IdrA completely glossed over phoenix colo unit mix in TvP... Yes rine/viking will do just fine against phoenix harass BUT at the time of engagement, before vikings can do any significant damage, the marines will melt to a significant number of colo. Then T has to make the choice to ignore phoenix and fire at the colo which may kill off 2-4 but at the cost of air dominance. Then the phoenix will simply lift up half of your remaining marauders and clean up.

My point is, after a certain point, colo/phoenix can't be cracked with simple mmm+viking.


Terrans imo should try to mix in one or two thors. Pheonix are light units and tend to clump.

Yes, most Terrans build 1-2 Thor to deter clumping but that doesn't stop P from spreading out his phoenix when engaging. That doesn't do anything to the result of the battle as the Thor should be attacking ground units rather than the spread out phoenixes. As an example, you should watch game 3 of GSTL day 1, Startale vs fOu.
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Ratel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada184 Posts
February 10 2011 02:28 GMT
#26
you guys reallllly should change the "2 guys on couch" arrangement
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 10 2011 02:31 GMT
#27
On February 10 2011 11:28 Ratel wrote:
you guys reallllly should change the "2 guys on couch" arrangement


Greenscreen + planet Char behind them :D
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
February 10 2011 02:35 GMT
#28
42:41 is fucking art seriously. LOL
Love the show nice work guys ^^;
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 10 2011 02:35 GMT
#29
On February 10 2011 11:31 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 11:28 Ratel wrote:
you guys reallllly should change the "2 guys on couch" arrangement


Greenscreen + planet Char behind them :D

gracken and Archon back ground, wait is Artosis a high or dark templar?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
February 10 2011 02:37 GMT
#30
Why is idra smiling so much?!?
secret - never again
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 10 2011 02:40 GMT
#31
I love it =)
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 02:47:55
February 10 2011 02:46 GMT
#32
Okay listening to the show now but....

LOL @ 15 seconds, "Not a show for those with over-inflated egos".... soooo what are guys doing up there.

Edit - All kidding aside, thanks for the video. I appreciate the efforts and its always interesting seeing positions I hadn't thought of.

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sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
February 10 2011 02:47 GMT
#33
On February 10 2011 11:13 infinity21 wrote:
IdrA completely glossed over phoenix colo unit mix in TvP... Yes rine/viking will do just fine against phoenix harass BUT at the time of engagement, before vikings can do any significant damage, the marines will melt to a significant number of colo. Then T has to make the choice to ignore phoenix and fire at the colo which may kill off 2-4 but at the cost of air dominance. Then the phoenix will simply lift up half of your remaining marauders and clean up.

My point is, after a certain point, colo/phoenix can't be cracked with simple mmm+viking.


Phoenix collo has been figured out for months. Vikings do very well against both phoenix and colossus... make a lot of them.


Boxer vs Tester boxer puts on a phoenix/collo clinic.
I could spend a while with that smile
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 02:51:04
February 10 2011 02:48 GMT
#34
On February 10 2011 11:35 ThePurist wrote:
42:41 is fucking art seriously. LOL
Love the show nice work guys ^^;

[image loading]


It's poetry.

I'm glad they went through and addressed some concerns/feedback from last week.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
February 10 2011 02:48 GMT
#35
awesome, i will learn some new tvp strats ! :D ( haven't watched yet i hope to not be disappointed )
www.root-gaming.com
Phanekim
Profile Joined April 2003
United States777 Posts
February 10 2011 02:50 GMT
#36
On February 10 2011 11:48 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 11:35 ThePurist wrote:
42:41 is fucking art seriously. LOL
Love the show nice work guys ^^;

[image loading]


It's poetry.

I'm glad they went through and addressed some concerns/feedback from that week.



this pic nearly made me die of laughter.
i like cheese
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
February 10 2011 02:51 GMT
#37
Yo nice capture man I have a feeling this is gonna be big ^^
LOL it's like priceless art
Gonna be the next teamliquid meme
Veil
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)42 Posts
February 10 2011 02:51 GMT
#38
Wonder if you could adjust the tech availability of the infantry upgrades like with the nitro packs for the reapers? Could have concussion grenades not available until the factory also.
Not enough minerals T_T
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 02:54:03
February 10 2011 02:53 GMT
#39
On February 10 2011 11:47 sickoota wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 11:13 infinity21 wrote:
IdrA completely glossed over phoenix colo unit mix in TvP... Yes rine/viking will do just fine against phoenix harass BUT at the time of engagement, before vikings can do any significant damage, the marines will melt to a significant number of colo. Then T has to make the choice to ignore phoenix and fire at the colo which may kill off 2-4 but at the cost of air dominance. Then the phoenix will simply lift up half of your remaining marauders and clean up.

My point is, after a certain point, colo/phoenix can't be cracked with simple mmm+viking.


Phoenix collo has been figured out for months. Vikings do very well against both phoenix and colossus... make a lot of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW7umJMSiGQ
Boxer vs Tester boxer puts on a phoenix/collo clinic.

Outdated. Since the patch, 2stargate chrono phoenix = 2port reactor viking production. Used to work though.

Also, always enjoy artosis vods ~ thx yo
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-10 02:56:07
February 10 2011 02:54 GMT
#40
I think the conclusion of it being easier for the Terran in this situation best describes it, it is not impossible to hold off, but there is a lot more pressure on the Protoss to not fuck up, one missed force field, not enough sentries, too many sentres, positioning, unit combination, choosing the right time to tech whilst getting pressured...


Outdated. Since the patch, 2stargate chrono phoenix = 2port reactor viking production. Used to work though.

Also, always enjoy artosis vods ~ thx yo


...

He can't chronoboost Pheonix for ever, if so he will delay Colossus/upgrades, which isn't that great of a trade off, and it is not like the Pheonix cost any less, with a certain income he still can only get a certain amount of Phoenix/Colossus
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