EPTOn February 10 2011 23:24 Sqq wrote:
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noirion24
United States1 Post
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DestroManiak
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someone make a gif of that :D | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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IAmSpooner
Sweden111 Posts
On February 10 2011 23:24 Sqq wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlc0S8LLtsg Haha, this made me feel awful :/ | ||
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ChickenLips
2912 Posts
On February 10 2011 23:51 zakk wrote: I like how they say burrow and ling speed takes soooo long to research (100 and 110 seconds respectively) while stimpack is relatively fast (140 seconds). :D this is why I see it as comedy, they were among the most prominent balance whiners in BW and they haven't disappointed in SC2 (i mean making a show called 'IMBALANCED' cmon..) Thinking that of all people these 2 could make a show like this, objectively evaluating game balance (which they are obviously trying to do) is just a joke, I mean how can IdrA expect to be taken seriously when he ragequits his stream with the words "Terran is a fucking joke, fuck you Blizzard" and then hops on camera to talk about what is fair between the 3 races? He obviously only cares about what affects his performance, his race and how he can win the most, which is something he cant be blamed for, every single-race gamer does that to a certain extent. IdrA lets his emotions cloud his judgment, but the thing that irks me is that he doesnt recognize this and then proceeds to make flat out _wrong_ statements about certain matchups that other people pick up and then regurgitate to no end. (like saying going vs a 1gas Protoss is a coinflip, because he will either FE or 4gate while not scouting his opponents front past the initial zergling poke) They are so very obviously biased against Terran and unless they either get one on their show (which i dont see happening) or both start playing random, this is just utter garbage, giving leeway to the idiots that already scream imbalance at the slightest frustration. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
omg hahahaah hahaha cmon Artosis, you could've edited that scene, you put grack into an awful situation. lol | ||
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Armsved
Denmark642 Posts
On February 10 2011 22:17 iChau wrote: How much does concussive cost? How much does stim cost? How much does shield cost? How much does a twilight cost? How much does charge cost? How much does blink cost? How much does robotic's bay + range cost? How much does storm + amulet cost? How much does a barracks with addon cost? How much does a factory with addon cost? How much does a starport with addon cost?*** How much does a gateway cost? How much does a robo cost? Not to mention that it takes 2x longer to build a barracks than building a gateway. ***Remember to include lost mining time. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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lifecanwait
96 Posts
link_battlenet Feel free to support (or discuss them) ;-) | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
How much does a barracks with addon cost? How much does a factory with addon cost? How much does a starport with addon cost?*** I guess it's common for a terran who doesn't like upgrades to avoid building a barracks, starport or factory...? | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
Not to mention that it takes 2x longer to build a barracks than building a gateway. A gateway takes 5seconds longer to build than a barracks... | ||
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Armsved
Denmark642 Posts
On February 11 2011 00:13 Dommk wrote: A gateway takes 5seconds longer to build than a barracks... right.... Althou a barracks with a techlab takes 90 seconds and then you have to wait an additional 30 seconds for a marauder while a gateway takes 55 sec and you get a unit instantly. So its roughly 120 seconds to get your unit with a barracks vs roughly 60 sec with a gateway. It takes about 2½ min to get units out of barracks with reactor but then you get 2 marines. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On February 11 2011 00:18 Armsved wrote: right.... Althou a barracks with a techlab takes 90 seconds and then you have to wait an additional 30 seconds for a marauder while a gateway takes 55 sec and you get a unit instantly. So its roughly 120 seconds to get your unit with a barracks vs roughly 60 sec with a gateway. It takes about 2½ min to get units out of barracks with reactor but then you get 2 marines. Comparing single unit initial time cost is stupid when it's something that gets used and produces things repeatedly over time. | ||
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Armsved
Denmark642 Posts
On February 11 2011 00:20 Lonyo wrote: Comparing single initial time cost is stupid when it's something that gets used and produces things repeatedly over time. Its fucking retarded to compare any of this stuff unless its seriously broken. Its racial difference. If you look at my original post I was refering to a guy who compared price for getting stim/shield/concussive to getting blink/charge/collusus range/storm. | ||
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LetoAtreides82
United States1188 Posts
On February 10 2011 23:51 zakk wrote: I like how they say burrow and ling speed takes soooo long to research (100 and 110 seconds respectively) while stimpack is relatively fast (140 seconds). :D You need lair for burrow, which makes it take a long time because if you lair too soon you won't have enough queens to stop a banshee rush. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
This is even more important against timing-attacks, when 10-20 seconds can be gamedeciding. Nearly everything they talked about I think most of us have already known (that you kinda need something else but unupgraded gateway-units to fight vs MM). They didn't even mention how the "third M", medivacs, HUGELY contribute to the effectiveness of stimmed bio-units, also because of the synergy with drop-play. I would have liked them to analyze things more specificly. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On February 10 2011 23:24 Sqq wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlc0S8LLtsg can't stop laughing, omg poor IdrA, i feel so bad for him xD | ||
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the p00n
Netherlands615 Posts
The reason I'm asking is because it forces standard play out of your opponent if you go random race, denying race-specific builds such as forge expands on shakuras plateau PvZ, or perhaps 11gas 13rax reactor hellions TvZ, It does not deny such builds for the random player. I have also sent an e-mail about this. | ||
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SC2Real
Germany184 Posts
On February 11 2011 00:18 Armsved wrote: right.... Althou a barracks with a techlab takes 90 seconds and then you have to wait an additional 30 seconds for a marauder while a gateway takes 55 sec and you get a unit instantly. So its roughly 120 seconds to get your unit with a barracks vs roughly 60 sec with a gateway. It takes about 2½ min to get units out of barracks with reactor but then you get 2 marines. barracks with techlab equals gateway + core.. what takes longer to build? >_> | ||
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