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sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
February 08 2011 09:35 GMT
#41
Very helpful and thought out list! Thanks for this!
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
Azn_Christian
Profile Joined September 2010
United States153 Posts
February 08 2011 10:02 GMT
#42
64. Overestimating what enemy has or underestimating what you have. It was on a day[9] XP
and these would help so much in team games if everyone did them XD
Life appears to me too short to be spent in nursing animosity or registering wrongs." - Charlotte Bronte, Jane Eyre
Morale
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1010 Posts
February 08 2011 10:11 GMT
#43
Nice list! Usefull for non bronze leaguers aswell:D
chokke
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway228 Posts
February 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#44
Considering us bronzers/silvers, these are core issues that comes from lack of confidence in keys and focus. Like clickign 5 [cc] and z [scan, grid] when your units getting crushed by cloaked units.
For me, beeing pretty low myself, these issues isn't something I should focus on since my core is lacking pretty good and starting to focus on the army, then injecting, then making, then expanding, then thinking of rally poitns, then checking if I am holding towers, checking minimap, spreading creep, checking composition of enemy etc etc etc is way to much when I am struggling to make drones and spraying larva once a minute [40 sec for ideal].

But sure, if I managed all these 60, I'd be in master
The_Piper42
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States426 Posts
February 08 2011 10:24 GMT
#45
Great list. I also like the comments that say to produce workers nonstop and keep money low. If you can find ways to do those two things your play will improve immensely!
Boxer, White-Ra, Grubby, Flash fighting!
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
February 08 2011 10:28 GMT
#46
On February 08 2011 16:08 Tyler214365 wrote:
Another major thing is devoting the majority of their time and attention to a cutesy tactic like a drop or blink micro when they are much better off 1-Aing and going back to base to focus on macro. Often they will try something like multi drop harass while their money gets to 3000/2000 and wonder why they just get steamrolled even though they are using such clever tactics.

Yet another thing is never even thinking of attacking, ever until they have a maxed army.

A good thing for new players (i did this in the beginning and it really helped) to avoid the first of these problems is to never look at the battles. just tell the army to attack via the minimap and keep macroing at your base. it really gets you in the mindset of what your top priority is and in bronze you'd be amazed how easy it is to win doing this. 100% of your attention should be focused on improving your macro in bronze and you will be promoted in no time.


You just described me playing SC1 for 5 years.

I've grown up a lot in SC2 and can manage my harassment by flashing back to it at key points- but LOL man.

This list also had me rolling. Thanks for the chuckles man.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
nanoscorp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1237 Posts
February 08 2011 10:33 GMT
#47
Good list! It is a good sign that you can recognize errors like these. Correcting things like this will improve your game. However, I think that in order to set yourself on a steady path to diamond+, you should focus on more general concepts. Much like forgetting macro when you're trying to execute perfect stutter-step micro, attributing losses to specific tactical errors can leave you overwhelmed when you try to correct them in subsequent games. I watched Day9 coaching DJWheat for a while and loved his suggestions about multitasking and keeping money low. Constantly checking/preparing for your next move will pay dividends forever.
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
February 08 2011 11:18 GMT
#48
90% of these mistakes matter for masters but they really don't matter for anyone under diamond at all.
snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
February 08 2011 11:25 GMT
#49
Haven't read through the whole list, but all things I read have been right on, it's a good list for starters to look after
"Language is Freeware, in that it's free to use, but it's not Open Source, so you can't just change things how you like."
Fir3fly
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia251 Posts
February 08 2011 11:39 GMT
#50
wow, this is really good, thanks.

Fir3fly
Profile Joined May 2009
Australia251 Posts
February 08 2011 11:40 GMT
#51
On February 08 2011 20:18 Bommes wrote:
90% of these mistakes matter for masters but they really don't matter for anyone under diamond at all.


and thats exactly why they're under diamond

(soz for double post)
SirHyoon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia46 Posts
February 08 2011 11:45 GMT
#52
make sure you have vision of your backdoor rocks? just sayin
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-08 11:50:12
February 08 2011 11:49 GMT
#53
23. Sending in your rushed single trophy unit (colossi, bc), with little to no support


Ok, now this one you even see professional gamers do...welcome to PvT 2 gate robo expo colossus-tech

Maybe change the title and try to get up to 100?
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Drunken.Jedi
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-08 11:51:05
February 08 2011 11:50 GMT
#54
While everything on this list is quite sensible, I think it's very bad advice for bronze level players. If you're new to the game, you absolutely should try to focus on the very basics and just learn to properly execute one simple build order. By giving bronze players more than 60 things to look out for, you've made sure that they try to do way too many things at once and never learn how to do any one thing properly.
Here's a much better and much shorter list:
1. Not having a solid build order
2. Clicking icons instead of using hotkeys
3. Not hotkeying your units and production buildings
4. Getting supply blocked
5. Not constantly producing units and workers
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
February 08 2011 12:12 GMT
#55
64. making lists of most common 1 v 1 mistakes

seriously these things come only through practice, you are almost always going to forget something if you are not practicing enough
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
chokke
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway228 Posts
February 08 2011 12:35 GMT
#56
On February 08 2011 20:50 Drunken.Jedi wrote:
Here's a much better and much shorter list:
1. Not having a solid build order
2. Clicking icons instead of using hotkeys
3. Not hotkeying your units and production buildings
4. Getting supply blocked
5. Not constantly producing units and workers

For a bronze/silver, a solid build order will not work. It's ok to have an overall strategy, but forcing to much on the buildorder removes the thought behind the action and why it's like that. On my level, it's not the build order that wins or loses a game, it's the lack of mechanics and stuff.
I also think you should include:
6. Watching battles.

By watching your battle, you lose all focus and go back to the attitude when spectating a game/watching a tournament and letting things flow on it's own.
nyc863
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
200 Posts
February 08 2011 13:45 GMT
#57
I agree totally with not needing a worked out build order. If you follow a script, then you are making assumptions about the opponent. No bronze has 3+ different build orders memorized depending on what they see at the opponents base. If they have just one they stick to, then it is a weakness not a strength.

ok the only build order that might be worth practice is the most "normal" one: for T, after the obligatory "gl hf", then supply and barracks, send out scv, block ramp, get orbital, gas, factory and starport smoothly..
LazerApe
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden206 Posts
February 08 2011 13:58 GMT
#58
i dont think those mistakes are exclusive to bronze, but to most people below diamond and masters =P
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
February 08 2011 14:08 GMT
#59
I have two friends in Bronze who I'm trying to get better at the game...honestly I don't know what to tell them. Right now I'm just observing them playing vs the AI and shouting at them over a headset.

'Ok expand. Expand. Please expand. Come on dude expo. Take a probe. Press b, n, click in your natural. Fucking...do it. You're not doing anything else. I can see your APM, it's 0. Just press the buttons. Why is this taking so long? Seriously dude what the fuck are you doing, wanking?'
btlyger
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States470 Posts
February 08 2011 14:19 GMT
#60
I find a few of there tips hilarious because I see so many diamond and sometimes even masters players not doing them. Still a decent read though, but what people said about the length is true, new players need a few things to focus on when view get started not a list of 60
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