Fuck this map Thank god you can block 3 maps on ladder. I don't understand how hard is it to just look at maps like xel'naga or metaopolis acknowledge what makes those maps good and apply it to future maps. Meta would be the perfect map if they had spawns like shakuras

danl9rm

United States3111 Posts

January 21 2011 04:49 GMT

#45

i just wish they'd get rid of those rock piles they're in love with. zerg is the only race that takes 5 mins to kill 'em.

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

January 21 2011 04:49 GMT

#46

If your going to take screen shots, could you at least get out some lings to illuminate the place first.

masterbreti

Korea (South)2711 Posts

January 21 2011 04:58 GMT

#47

huh, it seems as though its notupdatign on my client to that new version of jungle basin, anyone confirm that it has reached NA?

Bijan

United States286 Posts

January 21 2011 05:01 GMT

#48

Zerg could probably fast expand to this spot pretty safely.

darthcaesar

United States475 Posts

January 21 2011 05:02 GMT

#49

I like the change this gives in TvZ, but i'm unsure about TvP.

KillerPlague

United States1386 Posts

January 21 2011 05:03 GMT

#50

on the one hand it discourages terran taking your 3rd expo at mid..on the other its puts your gold at the risk of siege tanks, gives the terran a free 4th (gold!), and encourages static defenses (bunker, mech, turrets) nonetheless i look forward to seeing how the match ups will evolve to accomadate this new expo.

TehForce

1072 Posts

January 21 2011 05:03 GMT

#51

On January 21 2011 14:01 Bijan wrote:
Zerg could probably fast expand to this spot pretty safely.

that would be a late expand because lings take forever to take down the rocks. also early pushes would be impossible to defend so zerg can't fast expand to the gold.

ZeromuS

Canada13397 Posts

January 21 2011 05:03 GMT

#52

On January 21 2011 14:01 Bijan wrote:
Zerg could probably fast expand to this spot pretty safely.

Well if drones could somehow destroy the rocks with their amazing dps I'm sure.

J/k, but try to remember that there are rocks there and also that a fast expand involves expanding fast and you cant really do that with high hp armoured destructible rocks.

DarkRise

1644 Posts

January 21 2011 05:05 GMT

#53

isn't this an advantage for terrans?
they can easily now get 4 bases
you got your main and natural, that's a no brainer
now you can protect your gold while protecting your 3rd at the middle of map with siege tanks

MonsieurGrimm

Canada2441 Posts

January 21 2011 05:09 GMT

#54

so now T and P get a gold base while Z is still stuck with 2 defensible bases

what part of this map makes sense

Keitzer

United States2509 Posts

January 21 2011 05:13 GMT

#55

D9D cannot abuse this =)

Regstata

United States207 Posts

January 21 2011 05:14 GMT

#56

I'm still voting this map down. There's way too many bases for how small this map is. I feel like any Z player would have to go air so that tanks and collosi couldn't hit the gold from the middle high ground

excellionx

United States85 Posts

January 21 2011 05:15 GMT

#57

nice making jungle basin an even worse map for zerg

adding an easy gold that terran can defend, addendum to that they can siege up on high ground and easily take out the base if a zerg tries to take it rofl

Ziggitz

United States340 Posts

January 21 2011 05:16 GMT

#58

Oh, so the ledge is only close enough for the terran to get the exact distance away from my hatch that he wants to be so he can stim marines in and out of their covering fire to kill my hatch and I have zero room to place spine crawlers to protect it AND I can't get lings up to his tanks without going past the bunkers he's going to place on the high ground.

The situation is exactly the same but each side just gets one more base. This map is intrinsically shit and it needs to be dropped. There are simply too many long narrow paths parallel to each other that make siege tanks and colossi far too powerful. The node points to these lanes (the position of the two central expos, the space between the main and the third, and the side expos) are utterly dominated by terran siege tanks and PF's with a horrendously long run around that makes flanking really hard to do. The map is a few short steps away from a nexus wars type map and it needs to die in a fire.

AzurewinD

United States569 Posts

January 21 2011 05:17 GMT

#59

Why?

Why did it need this change? Terran can take that base so early its not even funny.