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Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:15 GMT
#81
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:17 GMT
#82
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
YES!!!! ABSOLUTELY!!! I wouldn't mind in the least if SC2 was delayed so it could be properly polished with more features and testing before it came out. It would also give them time to improve the lousy sounds, the horrible dialogue in the single-player, and fix the dozens of horrible design-decisions that went into Bnet 2.0.


Then you should have read a freaking review and waited another year to buy the game. Problem solved.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
January 15 2011 06:24 GMT
#83
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=594472
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

Both links have quotes from Blizzard confirming no chat channels in SC2. The community exploded in Blizzard's face over chat channels for a reason.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:29 GMT
#84
On January 15 2011 15:24 Spawkuring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=594472
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

Both links have quotes from Blizzard confirming no chat channels in SC2. The community exploded in Blizzard's face over chat channels for a reason.


Yeah and Blizzard has one the the best track records of listening to there community and giving them what they want, there was no "vehement" refusal to add them in. You just posted a perfect example of Blizzard changing their previous plans to cater to what the community wants, and you're acting like this is a bad thing. Grow up.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 06:32:08
January 15 2011 06:31 GMT
#85
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.

I understand if you want to have your own opinion, even if I think it is horribly wrong.
But please, at least get your facts STRAIGHT. And now you're trying to cover up what you said before . . .
I don't understand if they have to somehow "improve Bnet over time" if all the features they are adding are things that are a decade old. Remember in Bnet 1.0 we had LAN, functional chat channels, cross-realm play? That was over a decade ago. Is it really so hard to implement it in 2010-2011?
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
faseman
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia215 Posts
January 15 2011 06:33 GMT
#86
Ah, poor custom maps. How could they screw battle.net so badly?
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
January 15 2011 06:34 GMT
#87
On January 15 2011 15:29 Treemonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:24 Spawkuring wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=594472
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

Both links have quotes from Blizzard confirming no chat channels in SC2. The community exploded in Blizzard's face over chat channels for a reason.


Yeah and Blizzard has one the the best track records of listening to there community and giving them what they want, there was no "vehement" refusal to add them in. You just posted a perfect example of Blizzard changing their previous plans to cater to what the community wants, and you're acting like this is a bad thing. Grow up.


Thank you for proving my point. Blizzard changes their plans according to community feedback, which is precisely what all these posts are intended to do. Why you keep trying to dismiss us as pointless whiners I don't know, because it's precisely the whining that gets Blizzard to change their mind on important issues. Blizzard says "no chat channels". Community complains and guess what? We have chat channels. Squeaky wheel gets the grease as they say. Our words are definitely harsh, but people have every right to be upset when the product (Bnet 2.0) that was heavily hyped up from Blizzard fails to meet expectations.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:34 GMT
#88
On January 15 2011 15:31 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.

I understand if you want to have your own opinion, even if I think it is horribly wrong.
But please, at least get your facts STRAIGHT.
I don't understand if they have to somehow "improve Bnet over time" if all the features they are adding are things that are a decade old. Remember in Bnet 1.0 we had LAN, functional chat channels, cross-realm play? That was over a decade ago. Is it really so hard to implement it in 2010-2011?


Is it really so hard to understand that everything takes time and SC2 was delayed enough already for bnet2.0? You can't just cut and paste the code onto a completely new framework.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
EonShiKeno
Profile Joined July 2010
United States122 Posts
January 15 2011 06:37 GMT
#89
The only thing I like about bnet 0.2 is the party system and how you can join everyone at onces. Besides that the rest of the 99% of bnet is complete shit.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:38 GMT
#90
On January 15 2011 15:34 Spawkuring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:29 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:24 Spawkuring wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=594472
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

Both links have quotes from Blizzard confirming no chat channels in SC2. The community exploded in Blizzard's face over chat channels for a reason.


Yeah and Blizzard has one the the best track records of listening to there community and giving them what they want, there was no "vehement" refusal to add them in. You just posted a perfect example of Blizzard changing their previous plans to cater to what the community wants, and you're acting like this is a bad thing. Grow up.


Thank you for proving my point. Blizzard changes their plans according to community feedback, which is precisely what all these posts are intended to do. Why you keep trying to dismiss us as pointless whiners I don't know, because it's precisely the whining that gets Blizzard to change their mind on important issues. Blizzard says "no chat channels". Community complains and guess what? We have chat channels. Squeaky wheel gets the grease as they say. Our words are definitely harsh, but people have every right to be upset when the product (Bnet 2.0) that was heavily hyped up from Blizzard fails to meet expectations.


There is a difference between feedback and whining, and the mentality that they will only listen to your feedback if you post it in the words of a spoiled brat is foolish and immature...and freaking annoying. This place is getting just as bad as the battle.net forums.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
January 15 2011 06:39 GMT
#91
On January 15 2011 15:34 Treemonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:31 Superiorwolf wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.

I understand if you want to have your own opinion, even if I think it is horribly wrong.
But please, at least get your facts STRAIGHT.
I don't understand if they have to somehow "improve Bnet over time" if all the features they are adding are things that are a decade old. Remember in Bnet 1.0 we had LAN, functional chat channels, cross-realm play? That was over a decade ago. Is it really so hard to implement it in 2010-2011?


Is it really so hard to understand that everything takes time and SC2 was delayed enough already for bnet2.0? You can't just cut and paste the code onto a completely new framework.

I would like you to see the example of HoN. That's an example of something done correctly AND efficiently. And ya everything does take time, but EIGHT years? Come on, that's a bit much, considering that the "features" they are implementing are something that were already in Bnet 1.
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 15 2011 06:41 GMT
#92
On January 15 2011 15:29 Treemonkeys wrote:
This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


http://www.incgamers.com/Interviews/270/blizzards-frank-pearce-interview/2

Q:Another thing I thought you'd promised was chat rooms within Battle.net...

Nope. No plans for specific chat rooms at this time. You'll be able to open up chats direct with your friends, and when we add clans and groups there'll be chats for your clans and groups, but no specific plans for chat rooms right now. Do you really want chat rooms?

Q:Loads of people within the community are wanting Looking For Group chat rooms, and that sort of thing.

Well, if we've done our job right in terms of the matchmaking service, then hopefully they won't feel like they'll need it for that service.


starleague forever
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
January 15 2011 06:43 GMT
#93
First of all whats wrong with blizzard and the chatrooms?
Everybody that can program could program better chatrooms. Those chatrooms are a disgrace its not funny anymore. I like watching sc2, but i hate b-net 2.0 so much its not funny anymore..
I just miss the sc1 b-net and even more the wc3 one.
God those were awesome times -_- Seems like they are over.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:43 GMT
#94
On January 15 2011 15:39 Superiorwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:34 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:31 Superiorwolf wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.

I understand if you want to have your own opinion, even if I think it is horribly wrong.
But please, at least get your facts STRAIGHT.
I don't understand if they have to somehow "improve Bnet over time" if all the features they are adding are things that are a decade old. Remember in Bnet 1.0 we had LAN, functional chat channels, cross-realm play? That was over a decade ago. Is it really so hard to implement it in 2010-2011?


Is it really so hard to understand that everything takes time and SC2 was delayed enough already for bnet2.0? You can't just cut and paste the code onto a completely new framework.

I would like you to see the example of HoN. That's an example of something done correctly AND efficiently. And ya everything does take time, but EIGHT years? Come on, that's a bit much, considering that the "features" they are implementing are something that were already in Bnet 1.


They started b.net2.0 when SC2 was nearly complete, they haven't been working on it for 8 years.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:44 GMT
#95
On January 15 2011 15:43 TheDna wrote:
First of all whats wrong with blizzard and the chatrooms?
Everybody that can program could program better chatrooms. Those chatrooms are a disgrace its not funny anymore. I like watching sc2, but i hate b-net 2.0 so much its not funny anymore..
I just miss the sc1 b-net and even more the wc3 one.
God those were awesome times -_- Seems like they are over.


No actually WC3 online still works, have a blast.
http://shroomspiration.blogspot.com/
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
January 15 2011 06:45 GMT
#96
On January 15 2011 15:38 Treemonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:34 Spawkuring wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:29 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:24 Spawkuring wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=594472
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

Both links have quotes from Blizzard confirming no chat channels in SC2. The community exploded in Blizzard's face over chat channels for a reason.


Yeah and Blizzard has one the the best track records of listening to there community and giving them what they want, there was no "vehement" refusal to add them in. You just posted a perfect example of Blizzard changing their previous plans to cater to what the community wants, and you're acting like this is a bad thing. Grow up.


Thank you for proving my point. Blizzard changes their plans according to community feedback, which is precisely what all these posts are intended to do. Why you keep trying to dismiss us as pointless whiners I don't know, because it's precisely the whining that gets Blizzard to change their mind on important issues. Blizzard says "no chat channels". Community complains and guess what? We have chat channels. Squeaky wheel gets the grease as they say. Our words are definitely harsh, but people have every right to be upset when the product (Bnet 2.0) that was heavily hyped up from Blizzard fails to meet expectations.


There is a difference between feedback and whining, and the mentality that they will only listen to your feedback if you post it in the words of a spoiled brat is foolish and immature...and freaking annoying. This place is getting just as bad as the battle.net forums.


Since when is being harsh the same thing as being bratty? If a company drops the ball on a product, especially a product that was heavily hyped, put at a price of $60, and was directly the cause of years of delays, then people have every right to be angry and let that anger be known.

It's not "bratty" to expect a 2010 service to have features that nearly every online game service since 1990 has, including games made by the same company no less. It's not "bratty" to get mad when a company shows blatant signs of being out of touch with community desires due to their questionable decisions. If anything is childish, it's the notion that huge corporations shouldn't have any harsh feedback of any kind because it hurts their feelings. Please, the people at Blizzard are adults. They know about the relationship between producer and consumer and that a thick skin is necessary. Don't go into these threads if you can't handle people being angry.
pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-15 06:47:47
January 15 2011 06:45 GMT
#97
Yeah i am a bit angry at how slow this is all going. I play sc2 and try to improve everyday on ladder. If you're like me, and thats most of what you do, then you shouldn't be complaining TOO much. I understand that features are missing and stuff but as long as we have these chat channels, we have all the stuff we need to keep playing happily. The people who i feel really sorry for, and the reason I am angry, is because i remember all the hype about the starcraft 2 editor. I remember how excited everyone was, including me, and as soon as it released content started pouring out of the community. People have seriously put their heart into the editor, to first learn it and then release content. But with the horrible custom maps system battlenet has, it just makes it so hard for people to play good maps and i feel so sorry for the people who made great content for the game. At first it was acceptable, because we thought it would be changed very soon in a patch, plus we were just excited to even play, but now its just ridiculous. Maybe its something really hard to do, i really don't know, but i seriously thought blizzard could easily handle this and fix it in a week.....

Anyways, i love the game and i'm happy with my chat channels right now. But yeah, its too bad for all you masters of the editor. Hopefully blizz fixes this soon so you guys can get your well deserved props. And maybe then people will once again be excited about the great editor.
Kill the Deathball
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
January 15 2011 06:53 GMT
#98
On January 15 2011 15:45 Spawkuring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2011 15:38 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:34 Spawkuring wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:29 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:24 Spawkuring wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/portals.php?show=news&news_id=594472
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128014

Both links have quotes from Blizzard confirming no chat channels in SC2. The community exploded in Blizzard's face over chat channels for a reason.


Yeah and Blizzard has one the the best track records of listening to there community and giving them what they want, there was no "vehement" refusal to add them in. You just posted a perfect example of Blizzard changing their previous plans to cater to what the community wants, and you're acting like this is a bad thing. Grow up.


Thank you for proving my point. Blizzard changes their plans according to community feedback, which is precisely what all these posts are intended to do. Why you keep trying to dismiss us as pointless whiners I don't know, because it's precisely the whining that gets Blizzard to change their mind on important issues. Blizzard says "no chat channels". Community complains and guess what? We have chat channels. Squeaky wheel gets the grease as they say. Our words are definitely harsh, but people have every right to be upset when the product (Bnet 2.0) that was heavily hyped up from Blizzard fails to meet expectations.


There is a difference between feedback and whining, and the mentality that they will only listen to your feedback if you post it in the words of a spoiled brat is foolish and immature...and freaking annoying. This place is getting just as bad as the battle.net forums.


Since when is being harsh the same thing as being bratty? If a company drops the ball on a product, especially a product that was heavily hyped, put at a price of $60, and was directly the cause of years of delays, then people have every right to be angry and let that anger be known.

It's not "bratty" to expect a 2010 service to have features that nearly every online game service since 1990 has, including games made by the same company no less. It's not "bratty" to get mad when a company shows blatant signs of being out of touch with community desires due to their questionable decisions. If anything is childish, it's the notion that huge corporations shouldn't have any harsh feedback of any kind because it hurts their feelings. Please, the people at Blizzard are adults. They know about the relationship between producer and consumer and that a thick skin is necessary. Don't go into these threads if you can't handle people being angry.


No, bratty is "greg made you his bitch" animated gif followed by a thread nerd tears/rage. The more childish the community acts, the more childlike Blizzard will treat it. There is no reason to give a shit about a corporation's feelings, but it's also not desirable to be a member of a community who can articulate their complaints on the level of a 16 year old. Especially when they are using a content patch that was made for the community as an opportunity to whine more. It's pathetic.
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January 15 2011 08:42 GMT
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On January 15 2011 15:53 Treemonkeys wrote:
No, bratty is "greg made you his bitch" animated gif followed by a thread nerd tears/rage. The more childish the community acts, the more childlike Blizzard will treat it. There is no reason to give a shit about a corporation's feelings, but it's also not desirable to be a member of a community who can articulate their complaints on the level of a 16 year old. Especially when they are using a content patch that was made for the community as an opportunity to whine more. It's pathetic.


So now if we act like a child when we demand features that were perfectly functional and useful in other games blizzard made, they can choose to not give them to us out of principle?

That doesn't make any sense. Blizzard should be doing everything it can to make bnet2.0 better by taking what people liked about bnet1.0 and expanding upon it, not just starting from scratch and ignoring complaints.
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January 15 2011 08:59 GMT
#100
On January 15 2011 15:15 Treemonkeys wrote:
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On January 15 2011 15:11 Spawkuring wrote:
Keep in mind that these features are things Bnet 1.0 already has, and that thing is over a decade old. And not only that, but we had to practically scream in Blizzard's ear for them to put chat channels in since they were vehemently against doing so months before. You attack us for whining, yet it was precisely that which got us chat channels back. Fans can and should give feedback, whether positive or negative, and it's ridiculous to pretend that everything about Bnet 2.0 is peachy when it blatantly isn't.


This is completely absurd, and it is why these QQ threads exist. There was no screaming and Blizzard was NEVER vehemently against doing chats channels. You guys are just acting like brats who think they have to whine enough to get what they want. They have said all along they would be improving bnet over time.


LOL biggest troll I've ever seen.

Here are some things Blizzard's either failed to deliver, misled the community about, or just sucked at implementing in SC2:

1. Blizzard never intended chat channels to be in the game until the community protested. As late as the end of beta phase 1, Blizzard said there were not going to be chat channels. When they realized what an uproar it caused, they reversed the decision during the beta downtime.

Now that they're included, the chat channels are riddled with bugs and problems.

2. Originally Blizzard removed cross-region play from SC2, unlike its past games where you could create an account on any of the servers. Then, Blizzard promised cross-region support (I think between beta phase 1 and 2), and then reneged and only gave it to SEA players. Basically, SEA players were in uproar because, originally, Australia was tied to SEA and many would have to deal with major lag because of the way some ISPs work there. EU and NA players also complained about the lack of cross-region support, because of friends in other regions, and the like.

IMO, Blizzard realized that they would lose some business if they didn't give SEA players the option to play on the NA server. However, I'm fairly sure they didn't think the EU/NA concerns were important, so they only implemented cross-region support for SEA players.

3. No LAN support. WTF? There is NO reason for this. All this "authentication" and "piracy" garbage is unfounded. There was nothing stopping Blizzard from requiring battle net authentication the first time you play a game. Then, the game can be played on a LAN. What's so difficult about this? It works to prevent piracy the same way requiring the Internet for multiplayer does. The only difference is that tournaments no longer have to deal with lag and drops, which have already happened multiple times in the short history of SC2 competition. To date, Blizzard has not given a good reason for this decision.

4. The lack of proper hotkey support. Past games have all provided customizable hotkeys (not Blizzard games, perhaps, but still). WoW has GREAT customization. SC2 is garbage in comparison. Now that we have an in-game hotkey modifier, it's still garbage. It's very buggy, and it certainly seems like Blizzard is somehow incompetent in this area.

For example, as I stated earlier in the thread, you can't map Terran/Zerg hotkeys to "W" without making a conflict with the Protoss warp-in hotkey. Yet, I was able to do this pre-patch with a hotkey editor from this forum.

Last night, my hotkey profiles were all reset inexplicably. I logged out and logged back in an hour later, and I had to remap all my keys (after losing my ladder game because I kept hitting the wrong keys) which took 10-15 minutes to do.

To add insult to injury, the techlab and reactor hotkeys are still messed up for me. They register as "z" and "x", respectively, in-game, whereas I have set them to "x" and "c" in the hotkey changer. I don't understand why it will not change.

5. No clan support. No tags. Nothing.

6. Custom game list. WTF? Big fail here.

I could go on. There's bugs with several of the maps, for example. Shakuras is still not on the map pool. The bug was known about for well over a month before this last patch, yet nothing was done about it.

The worst part is that the team seemed to have enough time to include an easter egg with this last patch, yet they didn't have the foresight to correct many of the existing bugs, nor double-check the features they were adding in this patch.

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