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On December 15 2010 19:04 Fiercegore wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 18:59 Terr wrote:On December 15 2010 18:56 Fiercegore wrote:On December 15 2010 18:52 Terr wrote:On December 15 2010 18:47 CuirassEU wrote:
Im under the impression that the patch is not released because of the Gsl.
Im just in a worry that the servers might bug or something because of chatchannels or something and the tournament cant be finished because bnet is not running well.
I dont see balancechanges that affect PvT what so ever. That won't happen. This is one of the reasons they made a Public TEST Server. I really hope it doesn't happen but when I played WoW, regardless of whether there was a public test realm or not, WoW server would always be down for 24 hours after a major patch was released. This is an entirely different game though so I doubt they'll have the same problems. But isn't that normal? I mean, it's down just because they are patching it. Wow just has a lot of servers and patching every single one takes a lot more time. Well, kinda. They would bring the servers down for 6-8 hours ever Tuesday which was standard, and then when they were supposed to bring them back up they have a message saying "Maintenance is going to last 2 hours longer" or something generic like that, and then they just keep making the maintenance longer and longer especially when it was a large patch. And yeah, you're right WoW did have a lot of servers that's why I'm hopeful that it'll be different with starcraft
Well, the patch is on Thursday and the Finals are on Saturday. So even if it takes 24 hours, it'll be still ok.
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Wow seriously, can't even wait for 2 days?
Way to go blizz
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If they wait for this tournament, they'll have to do so for every other tournaments, and it would be a pita to patch the game.
At the moment, patch > tournament imho.
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Blizzard releases a patch whenever they want.
I think it was during the first GSL when they released a patch...the patch which messed up the ultralisk ae in the first place, correct me please if I'm wrong.
I don't think that the patch will be so game-changing that it will affect the outcome of the GSL finals or other tournaments in a great way.
And as postet before there are the PTR servers so that the players can get used to the changes before they are applied.
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i can see the scv repair nerf affecting the outcome of the finals tremendously. battle.net 2.0... fail. not being able to host a stable previous patch... fail
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I just can't believe Blizz would do something like that to GOMTV, I mean both are partners, no? There's no reason whatsoever to release a patch that shortly before the grand finals, unless they intentionally want to screw with them.
Also I heavily disagree with ppl saying it won't change much: phoenix buildtime reduced by 10 seconds makes both phoenix openings and the lategame gateway/colossus/phoenix combo much easier accessible.
The SCV-change means the marine/thor-all-in is hugely nerfed and basicly not viable anymore, because it can be countered by standard-play. Even if Rain didn't plan on doing it, it is definitely a huge change for the meta-game.
Observer change doesn't sound like much but honeslty, if you early expand you need 3 observers (1 scout, 2 vs cloak-harass), reduced gas-cost means you have 75 more gas, that's like...nearly a frickin twilight council in gas that couldn't have been afforded previously.
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That's our Blizzard! A hurpa duurp hurp.
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On December 15 2010 19:11 dkby wrote:
If they wait for this tournament, they'll have to do so for every other tournaments, and it would be a pita to patch the game.
At the moment, patch > tournament imho.
This, because if Blizzard decided to wait, 1000+ topics would spring up that "Blizzard only cares about Korean tournaments", "Blizz hates foreigners omg" and "Blizz would never postpone a patch for a EU/US tourney!" and other such nonesense.
Basically whatever Blizzard does, the large part of the community has shown they will never be happy about it, so they might aswell just dive right into what they want to do.
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Wanted to go home early for Christmas, I guess.
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On December 15 2010 19:07 Zim23 wrote:
This is pretty ridiculous. Wow. Just wow. If MC somehow loses because of this I will not be happy.
I hope you realize that the patch is a buff for protoss. Don't see how that would make him more likely to lose.
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I think GSL is played on a private server?
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I thought GSL was played on a special version... it isn't normal B.net is it?
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You know what would be funny? If they patch it DURING the finals
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On December 15 2010 19:12 FirstQT wrote:
i can see the scv repair nerf affecting the outcome of the finals tremendously. battle.net 2.0... fail. not being able to host a stable previous patch... fail
I think you're right in the sense that Rain might have planned a thor rush for one of the games, or been relying on taking undefended expansions with PFs -but- It's such a stupid bug and such an annoying tactic to play against and watch, I'm sooooo glad none of the finals matches will be decided by the use of it; I've actually been in shock as to why this hadn't already been implemented.
With any luck Rain's been phasing out those strategies anyway. It's just good practice not to rely on things that can easily be taken away.
The rest of the changes are more or less tweaks so here's hoping for a good finals regardless.
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On December 15 2010 19:02 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Good job being fucking retarded blizzard.
Guess its going to be a busy 2 days for you then as MC's practice partner before the finale?
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On December 15 2010 19:18 Tyree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 19:11 dkby wrote:
If they wait for this tournament, they'll have to do so for every other tournaments, and it would be a pita to patch the game.
At the moment, patch > tournament imho. This, because if Blizzard decided to wait, 1000+ topics would spring up that "Blizzard only cares about Korean tournaments", "Blizz hates foreigners omg" and "Blizz would never postpone a patch for a EU/US tourney!" and other such nonesense. Basically whatever Blizzard does, the large part of the community has shown they will never be happy about it, so they might aswell just dive right into what they want to do.
Sorry, but bullshit. GSL is by far the biggest and most important tournament. Also everybody knows (or if he dares to argue about it: should know) that Blizz and Gretech work together to establish SC2 as an esport. Probably people "would" complain if Blizz released patches before MLG/etc....but also they would understand.
Now there's nothing understandable about that, releasing a patch before the finals of their most prestigious tournament is simply idiotic.
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Blizzard has millions of customers waiting for features like chat channels. Those are more important than a tournament, even if it's the largest at the moment. They'll survive screwing over some professional players and maybe a couple of fans with balance changes, but they won't risk upsetting huge numbers of players by delaying features that have been promised for such a long time already.
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On December 15 2010 19:18 Tyree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 19:11 dkby wrote:
If they wait for this tournament, they'll have to do so for every other tournaments, and it would be a pita to patch the game.
At the moment, patch > tournament imho. This, because if Blizzard decided to wait, 1000+ topics would spring up that "Blizzard only cares about Korean tournaments", "Blizz hates foreigners omg" and "Blizz would never postpone a patch for a EU/US tourney!" and other such nonesense. Basically whatever Blizzard does, the large part of the community has shown they will never be happy about it, so they might aswell just dive right into what they want to do.
I support this point of view.
The majority of people will definitely moan about whatever choice Blizzard takes.
If Blizzard considers this Patch to be more balanced than the previous there should actually be no reason not to patch now.
Now whether the patch actually IS more balanced is another story. And of course the timing is rather bad but then again GOM decided to wait a ridiculous amount of time before starting of the finals.
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And yeah Shockks point is true as well.
Sorry hyper-competitive SC2 scene but it's still a gaming company with customers. Take a guess how many of those SC2 customers care about GSL? A rather low percentage. So that's another factor.
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On December 15 2010 19:21 rockslave wrote:
I thought GSL was played on a special version... it isn't normal B.net is it?
the tourney uses the same bnet like all the others. On another note, if they patched this game before saturday that's fucked up.. Terran bunkers' build time decreased which would help in defending against oGsMC's timing pushes because you know.. I want MC to win this not some terran dude who keeps allining..
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