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John just trolled 14 pages worth of TL posters.
Also, frankly I think Blizzard shouldn't patch the game again after this one. This isn't beta where shit changes every month. And this isn't WoW where your class is #1 one week and the worst the next. We want a static game that we can develop, not a game that is different every time you get on. That is like playing chess, and changing how the pieces move every time.
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Stop patching the game Blizz, please.
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On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
John just trolled 14 pages worth of TL posters.
Also, frankly I think Blizzard shouldn't patch the game again after this one. This isn't beta where shit changes every month. And this isn't WoW where your class is #1 one week and the worst the next. We want a static game that we can develop, not a game that is different every time you get on. That is like playing chess, and changing how the pieces move every time.
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Stop patching the game Blizz, please.
Its very clear you didnt play in Starcraft nor Brood War when Blizzard did patch the game at the same speed they are patching it right now. They also didnt wait for some tournament to begin/end.
That is why and how Brood War got balanced by countless patches and tweaks. SC2 is following in the exact same pattern.
They stopped balancing Brood War becuase it got balanced and the job was finished.
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On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
John just trolled 14 pages worth of TL posters.
Also, frankly I think Blizzard shouldn't patch the game again after this one. This isn't beta where shit changes every month. And this isn't WoW where your class is #1 one week and the worst the next. We want a static game that we can develop, not a game that is different every time you get on. That is like playing chess, and changing how the pieces move every time.
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Stop patching the game Blizz, please.
Even if it hasn't been patched since 2001, that is still THREE YEARS of patches before they stopped patching it. SC2 has been out for like 4 or 5 months now. I don't necessarily need them to keep patching it, but it is still early enough in the game that I understand that they will need to again, probably. Not to mention when the expansions come out, that will require balance patching, too.
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On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Brood War's last patch was released in 2009, but no, I'm sure you're right, SC2 is perfect now and Blizzard needs to stop working so hard.
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I dissagree with you chronald. Yes this is not the beta and the game needs to be developed but like you said, the game is NEW! The patches during the beta were huge and in my opinion the length the beta ran for was too short compared to how much they changed throughout it. The game can still benefit with minor tweaking.
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During Blizzcon Blizzard said that they will always try to avoid patching the game during major tournaments, but that their will always be something happening somewhere.
I dont think that Blizzard can flat out say that they will never patch during GSL and still have a good relationship with other tournaments around the world. If they want to make it a global esport, they can't start of by offending the people that will make it happen.
Patches will happen and life will go on, Blizzard will do their best to make it work.
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Whats the big deal? Patches are to improve the game. Blizzard isnt dumb enough to have a balance patch before GSL finals. Relax people.
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On December 17 2010 00:40 Tyree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
John just trolled 14 pages worth of TL posters.
Also, frankly I think Blizzard shouldn't patch the game again after this one. This isn't beta where shit changes every month. And this isn't WoW where your class is #1 one week and the worst the next. We want a static game that we can develop, not a game that is different every time you get on. That is like playing chess, and changing how the pieces move every time.
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Stop patching the game Blizz, please. Its very clear you didnt play in Starcraft nor Brood War when Blizzard did patch the game at the same speed they are patching it right now. They also didnt wait for some tournament to begin/end. That is why and how Brood War got balanced by countless patches and tweaks. SC2 is following in the exact same pattern. They stopped balancing Brood War becuase it got balanced and the job was finished.
According to day9 there were about 3 or 4 patches of significance in bw..
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On December 17 2010 00:55 hefty wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 00:40 Tyree wrote:On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
John just trolled 14 pages worth of TL posters.
Also, frankly I think Blizzard shouldn't patch the game again after this one. This isn't beta where shit changes every month. And this isn't WoW where your class is #1 one week and the worst the next. We want a static game that we can develop, not a game that is different every time you get on. That is like playing chess, and changing how the pieces move every time.
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Stop patching the game Blizz, please. Its very clear you didnt play in Starcraft nor Brood War when Blizzard did patch the game at the same speed they are patching it right now. They also didnt wait for some tournament to begin/end. That is why and how Brood War got balanced by countless patches and tweaks. SC2 is following in the exact same pattern. They stopped balancing Brood War becuase it got balanced and the job was finished. According to day9 there were about 3 or 4 patches of significance in bw..
BW was also the expansion to SC...so let's see how many patches come out of HotS.
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On December 17 2010 00:43 Crichton wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES. Brood War's last patch was released in 2009, but no, I'm sure you're right, SC2 is perfect now and Blizzard needs to stop working so hard.
Do you know what that patch did? He's talking about balance patches. All of the most recent BW patches were just bugfixes and stuff.
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On December 17 2010 00:32 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 23:19 Exarl25 wrote:On December 16 2010 22:52 Cel.erity wrote:
It looks like this was just a false alarm, but still, I don't see what the big deal is about a balance patch happening before the finals of GSL. Sure, it's the most important SC2 tournament, for the guys playing in it. No matter when Blizzard patches, it will always coincide with an important match in some tournament, and I guarantee you the finals of Zotac Cup are way more important to Strelok than the finals of GSL. Even just as far as GSL is concerned, it spans almost the entire month, do you want Blizzard to always be waiting for a full GSL season to end before applying new patches? A balance patch being released the day before the GSL grand finals would be no big deal? What the hell man. If you want to completely destroy any chance SC2 has of being regarded as a legit esport then yeah, go ahead and mess around with the game in the middle of major tournaments. There's 3 weeks of GSL, and then what if the 4th week happens to be something like MLG? You'll complain that they released a major patch right before MLG (which happened btw). They can't tiptoe around every major tournament. Yes, GSL has the largest prize pool, but that's not Blizzard's responsibility. Blizzard's responsibility is to balance the game as quickly and efficiently as possible. It would be much worse if they released the patch right before code S group stages, where there is more at stake for a larger number of people.
Blizzard's only "responsibility" is to ensure that SC2 is as financially sucessful as possible.
Trolling the entire community and jeopardising the games reputation as a legitimate esport by changing the rules the day before the grand finals of the biggest tournament out there would be detrimental to that goal.
It is in Blizzard's interests for SC2 to be successful as an esport. Which is why there is absolutely no chance of them releasing a patch at literally the very worst time possible and why they attempt to schedule around major tournaments whenever possible.
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On December 17 2010 00:40 Tyree wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
John just trolled 14 pages worth of TL posters.
Also, frankly I think Blizzard shouldn't patch the game again after this one. This isn't beta where shit changes every month. And this isn't WoW where your class is #1 one week and the worst the next. We want a static game that we can develop, not a game that is different every time you get on. That is like playing chess, and changing how the pieces move every time.
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Stop patching the game Blizz, please. Its very clear you didnt play in Starcraft nor Brood War when Blizzard did patch the game at the same speed they are patching it right now. They also didnt wait for some tournament to begin/end. That is why and how Brood War got balanced by countless patches and tweaks. SC2 is following in the exact same pattern. They stopped balancing Brood War becuase it got balanced and the job was finished.
To me its clear that you didn't play SC1 but heard a lot about how great it is on the forums and just wanna look cool.
There were few, very space out patches and they were BIG patches. It wasn't some small bi monthly thing. And after a couple years, they backed off balance entirely. The balance was made by mapmakers making maps that addressed current trends in the metagame.
Also note starcraft wasnt this huge thing with tons of money being injected into it. It started out as small pc bang tourneys that later grew by being on channels like iTV, Tooniverse, and gaMBC.
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On December 17 2010 00:59 QuakerOats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 00:43 Crichton wrote:On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES. Brood War's last patch was released in 2009, but no, I'm sure you're right, SC2 is perfect now and Blizzard needs to stop working so hard. Do you know what that patch did? He's talking about balance patches. All of the most recent BW patches were just bugfixes and stuff.
True. Still it's meaningless to compare a time period starting 2 years after release of BW with the first half year or year after release of SC2. It's still perfectly possible that WoL, HotS and LotV will be patched in an amount comparable to that of BW and then not at all for 10 fucking years as well.
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i dont know why so many ppl are saying its impossible for blizzard to patch - its not like they´d remove Zealots or Marines with the next patch.
We will know soon enough blizzard usually patches around 0-6 am CET - thats in about 7hours.
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On December 17 2010 00:35 Chronald wrote:
John just trolled 14 pages worth of TL posters.
Also, frankly I think Blizzard shouldn't patch the game again after this one. This isn't beta where shit changes every month. And this isn't WoW where your class is #1 one week and the worst the next. We want a static game that we can develop, not a game that is different every time you get on. That is like playing chess, and changing how the pieces move every time.
Stop whining over patches and forcing Blizzard to be an asshole. The didn't patch BW since 2001 (correct me if I'm wrong). That is 10 FUCKING YEARS OF NO PATCHES.
Stop patching the game Blizz, please.
there are still 2 expansions coming with possibly new units and upgrades for current ones.
you'd blindly accept a patch that hasn't been tested in a major tournament as the final patch? the changes that were reverted were from complaints by people that didn't even install the PTR client.
even chat channels could still be improved with future patches, as well as online storage and showcasing of replays through bnet.
why would you want them to ever stop patching free content?
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Trolling the entire community and jeopardising the games reputation as a legitimate esport by changing the rules the day before the grand finals of the biggest tournament out there would be detrimental to that goal.
People will whine and bitch, as per their idiom. But in 5 years, after LotV is out and the last balance patches are done, nobody will remember the 1.2 patch that came out before some early SC2 vanilla tournament.
The success or failure of SC2 is not predicated on when this one patch comes out. It'll live.
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i love how we're running out of legitimate things to get mad at blizzard about so we're now just making up rumors to get mad at them about.
so guys, i heard that Heart of the Swarm is going to cost $100 and you have to buy it and preorder Legacy of the Void in order to keep playing starcraft 2 on battlenet. FUCK YOU, BLIZZARD.
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On December 17 2010 01:20 NicolBolas wrote:Show nested quote +Trolling the entire community and jeopardising the games reputation as a legitimate esport by changing the rules the day before the grand finals of the biggest tournament out there would be detrimental to that goal. People will whine and bitch, as per their idiom. But in 5 years, after LotV is out and the last balance patches are done, nobody will remember the 1.2 patch that came out before some early SC2 vanilla tournament. The success or failure of SC2 is not predicated on when this one patch comes out. It'll live.
In 10 years, whether or not I failed the final exam I took 2 days ago will not matter much. But it matters a hell of a lot to me now, and prob will until I get my first job. Its all about momentum, and messing up the finals of a big tournament kills that momentum that Blizz can carry in the years to come.
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On December 17 2010 01:03 DragonDefonce wrote:
There were few, very space out patches and they were BIG patches. It wasn't some small bi monthly thing. And after a couple years, they backed off balance entirely. The balance was made by mapmakers making maps that addressed current trends in the metagame.
How long has SC2 been out now? It hasn't even had its first expansion yet.
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On December 17 2010 01:23 universalwill wrote:
i love how we're running out of legitimate things to get mad at blizzard about so we're now just making up rumors to get mad at them about.
so guys, i heard that Heart of the Swarm is going to cost $100 and you have to buy it and preorder Legacy of the Void in order to keep playing starcraft 2 on battlenet. FUCK YOU, BLIZZARD.
actually no, we're still pissed about no LAN
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