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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
You should probably secure atleast some form of placement in a team by your senior year or you'll be living on your own for a while with little income. Some better advice is to get atleast a minor in something you're really good at so if things don't work out you can fall back on a job somewhere while you get your masters. | ||
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aloT
England1042 Posts
On December 15 2010 06:15 Uncultured wrote: Worst advice in history. Any professional will tell you becoming a pro gamer was a gamble. Taking leaps of faith is what life is about. The very opposite of what you said is true. If you don't try your hardest and push yourself to the limit, you'll never know what you can do, and you'll never achieve anything. In this thread: Lots of people who are jealous, because they do not have the will to go after what they desire, and therefore feel the need to crush the aspirations of someone who does. No, that is extremely sound and reasonable advice. People should make life decisions based on the pro's and con's, and quite frankly, pro-gaming is an unforgiving career. You are either the best, or a nobody. You don't need to take a .. "leap of faith" to know if you are good at starcraft 2. The ladder is an excellent general way to determine this, as is performances in the AMAZING free weekly online tournaments. The OP, after playing from beta, is at a ladder ranking which barely exeeds the points total for the bonus pool, as displayed by his win ratio. Take it slow and steady, and let your results guide your decisions. It does -not- take 8 hours a day of SC2 to reach 2500+ or tournament knockout rounds. Anyway, to answer the OP: so how do people actually start to make a living off of it? Team allowances, personal sponorships, prize pool winnings. do you have to move to korea like IdrA and just find every little tournament plus GSL? No, start hitting the top of the ladder and winning regular online tournaments. It only takes one to become well known, such as Nerchio in the last TL open. cant you join a clan and get sponsored or something? It works on a case by case basis, some clans come with team sponorships but it doesnt mean that any of the money will go to the players, as things such as admin costs needs to be payed for. | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
 Edit: Also, I would implore that, unless you have some sort of other motivation for moving to Korea, you hold off on that idea until you're already a well known professional in the United States (or Europe, wherever you live at the moment). | ||
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BadWolf0
United States300 Posts
... WOW ... ... thats really all, I actually started typing intending on a well thought out rant but honestly I'm just gonna troll. REALLY!?!? Reminds me of when I started playing guitar with the not very lofty goal of being able to shred like kirk hammett (come on I was 13.) This guy at the store told me I'd never be fast cause my fingers are chunky and stubby lol. He told me I could be a good basic guitarist but I'd never do lead. Out of pure obstinance I was shredding a couple of months later and I now play jazz/classical at a decent level. I was going to try to go pro but abandoned it for money reasons. To get back to the OP, I used to think if I didn't go pro then I would just never get what I wanted out of my passion for music. I received some reassurance from an endocrinologist who played pro jazz flute in his spare time and regularly sells out local jazz halls that passion never dies and chances are you'll never stop doing something you love. So whatever happens, you don't need to go pro at something to get real satisfaction from a passion you have that you have worked at. That being said do what your gonna do and never let anyone tell you you can't do it! You may be wrong but chances are you'll figure that out yourself if you are :-) | ||
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Robal44444
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ST3V3
United States18 Posts
"gl hf" | ||
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EffectS
Belgium795 Posts
On December 10 2010 14:03 CanucksJC wrote: You don't simply walk fixed for you. | ||
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PaPoolee
Netherlands660 Posts
On December 11 2010 09:07 kataa wrote: Terrible advice. Even Idra has said that ten hours a day was excessive. It's quite possible to be a very good gamer and decent student at the same time, qxc is a good example. Idra plays a lot, and your not idra! we don't see QXC anywhere in the GSL or winning any major tournaments... huk is a good example of how much you need to play . | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On December 15 2010 06:08 tdt wrote: Make no mistake SC pros are as much athletes as sprinters, football players, chess players whatever. And if you don't have the +5% to genetics you'll never be at the top no matter what. Looks like I was right, science proves pros are different than most of us. TLDR: Scientists have conducted a study to check the aptitude of random people at a video game and tried correlating it with scans of their brains. They found a clear connection between the people's performance at the video game with the size of certain features in their brain such the nucleus accumbens and putamen. So just like you can be a "born talent" at a sport such as track, it would seem you can be born with a "natural ability" in E-sports as well? Original link: http://gizmodo.com/5733121/mri-scans-can-reveal-whether-youre-a-good-gamer | ||
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danielsan
Romania399 Posts
And worst scenario, which is also the most likely to happen, you'll never get that good to actually win tournaments but the practice time will crush your study time and you'll end up 22-23-24 years old and have nothing. You dont just jump in and excel at something. That might happen like 1% of cases but in 8 months youre just top diamond, so not the case here. If you had been playing competitively for years up until now... you maybe had a chance. So stop now and focus on some real goals. | ||
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Red.
Spain228 Posts
What the fuck? seriously, what the fuck? Those parents are paying him: home. food. education. a good life. You wanna pay them by not going to college, by not working. So, you want to be fed by them for another 5 years, and if you dont succed, you think anyone can go to college? Good luck. Seriously good luck. I hope you and those young boys that think like you wake up soon. you want to know the truth? the truth is that you dont like learning. You dont like to go to school. You like sitting in your chair playing and chatting all day, watching forums all day. YES thats an awesome thing, i love doing it. but DUDE thats 1 thing, and succeeding in something as big as esports is something else. Go to college. | ||
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BleaK_
Norway593 Posts
On January 14 2011 22:16 tdt wrote: Looks like I was right, science proves pros are different than most of us. TLDR: Scientists have conducted a study to check the aptitude of random people at a video game and tried correlating it with scans of their brains. They found a clear connection between the people's performance at the video game with the size of certain features in their brain such the nucleus accumbens and putamen. So just like you can be a "born talent" at a sport such as track, it would seem you can be born with a "natural ability" in E-sports as well? Original link: http://gizmodo.com/5733121/mri-scans-can-reveal-whether-youre-a-good-gamer What you have to think of is that your brain is not a set stone from birth, these features in the brain can be evolved from hours and hours of playing. This is also found in musicians. | ||
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Pongo
Australia79 Posts
Would you ask a person on the poverty line how to become a millionaire? And if you did, would their advice be valuable? So listen to the pro's and ignore the rest, for what do they know..? - Any fool can criticise, condemn and complain and most fools do | ||
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HardCorey
United States709 Posts
If I really knew the answer I probably wouldn't be posting here though  | ||
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hoby2000
United States918 Posts
On January 14 2011 22:35 BleaK_ wrote: What you have to think of is that your brain is not a set stone from birth, these features in the brain can be evolved from hours and hours of playing. This is also found in musicians. ^^^ Bingo. The Role of Deliberate Practice. Google it and read. | ||
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
Every craftcup/go4sc2 blah blah you can. Get yourself a name AND tournament/pressure experience. There are several players since retail launch who have got contracts purely on their ladder and online tournament placements. Peronsally, i would play it like Socke - use gaming as a side-career to fund you through university. Finish your education while maintaning a high level of pro play (or semi-pro) on a team, and then you can go fulltime when you finish and take time doing nothing but gaming. That way you have both a backup plan and a great shot at succeeding at pro. | ||
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shabinka
United States469 Posts
On January 14 2011 22:49 Pongo wrote: Only take advice from those who have done it. Would you ask a person on the poverty line how to become a millionaire? And if you did, would their advice be valuable? So listen to the pro's and ignore the rest, for what do they know..? - Any fool can criticise, condemn and complain and most fools do Because everyone who isn't a pro has no idea how to get there? You make no sense. I'm no pro, but I can tell you you need to win Tournys and get your name out there. If say CaTz can't go an hour without hearing how soandso just stomped this pro or that pro hell have to talk to you and see if you're good enough for ROOT. | ||
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Protoss_Carrier
414 Posts
On January 14 2011 22:16 tdt wrote: Looks like I was right, science proves pros are different than most of us. TLDR: Scientists have conducted a study to check the aptitude of random people at a video game and tried correlating it with scans of their brains. They found a clear connection between the people's performance at the video game with the size of certain features in their brain such the nucleus accumbens and putamen. So just like you can be a "born talent" at a sport such as track, it would seem you can be born with a "natural ability" in E-sports as well? Original link: http://gizmodo.com/5733121/mri-scans-can-reveal-whether-youre-a-good-gamer Nucleus accumbens is the pleasure and reward center of the brain, it could be a con-founder since people with higher activity at pleasure center tend to be more addicted to video games, hence play more. | ||
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jdobrev
Bulgaria162 Posts
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esfr`Netsky
France47 Posts
If you are decided to do so, you need to play a lot more, enter every tournament you can, and work the game at least 8 hours/day. This involve playing ladder, but watching replays and talking to good players about the game too. | ||
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