EPTWhy stop with PC gaming then?
Pro football pays better.
How does one become "pro"? - Page 13
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
Why stop with PC gaming then? Pro football pays better. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On December 11 2010 17:05 tdt wrote: You really think you can just practice and be pro? Why stop with PC gaming then? Pro football pays better. lol, that logic doesn't even make sense. you can practice all you want and you still won't cut it in the pro football level. going pro in gaming is easier when you compare eSports to sports. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Scaryman
United States70 Posts
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The.Doctor
Canada333 Posts
I think if it's your passion and you love SC, then fuck what everyone says about your rank, your playing time, your experience etc. Do what you love. There are no guarantees but if everyone just sat around trying to take the safest route in life, well, it'd be a pretty boring world. THOUGH, I'd definitely recommend finishing HS. HS isn't really much work anyways...maybe an hour a week of HW and then study a lot for exams. | ||
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Tonybarbosa
Australia38 Posts
On December 11 2010 18:01 tdt wrote: Disagree. Some people have a predilection to x and no amount of practice will make you pro. Chess, football, or even pro-gaming. But, if that's the case and a predilection is what has become the decider for someones capability for becoming pro, then why bother watching esports or even any sports at all? I mean, if its just some kind of predisposition then where's the competition? If you can be predisposed to be able to become a pro, then can you be predisposed to be the best player in the sport that you play in? Or is the predisposition as simple as a +5 to skill level (racial traits olol) that takes you above the potential skill level that hard work and guts can get you, meaning those people that don't have the disposition box checked will always be five points of skill lower than those lucky enough to be born specially geared towards that which they enjoy. Meh, doesn't fly with me =( If its the first option i gave snd predisposition is some kind of exponential potential bonus to skill, then it seems to me that the competitive side of sports is a bit worthless (right now i'm thinking of that runner who completely facerolled the 100m sprint in the olympics; if his genetic difference is really the difference in his ability to run versus other runners, then why bother watching because the match is already decided) Screw arguments for the second option, I can't really be bothered there but if it were the case that that is how pro-potentiality is decided, then it makes me think 'koreans?' 'nimble fingers?' etc. Either there are other really obvious options that I ignored or anyone can become pro, if you agree with what I just said. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On December 11 2010 17:26 zoLo wrote: lol, that logic doesn't even make sense. you can practice all you want and you still won't cut it in the pro football level. going pro in gaming is easier when you compare eSports to sports. i really dont think thats true. I dont even think there are as many people in college football as tehre are people who play sc2 in the world. But even if you compare it to soccer-football i still dont think its any easier- while the accessibility of both games is about the same you gotta realize that there are just a lot more paid soccer teams then there are sc2 teams. | ||
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Rawr
Sweden624 Posts
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CASLsoju
Canada253 Posts
On December 10 2010 14:10 Waking wrote: Also, sorry to be a dick but I started playing late in the beta (had never really played an RTS before) and went from low silver to ~2500 diamond in about 7months. Wow wat? I started a month ago and lost all my placements/didn't know how to play the game and I'm around 2500 diamond now. | ||
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SCdinner
Canada516 Posts
"1.A professional is a person that is paid for what they do. Qualifications have little to do with being a professional as the world's "oldest profession" is strictly a monetary gain career. An amateur maybe more qualified than a professional but they are not paid, thus they are an amateur." With this definition in mind all you have to do to become a pro starcraft player is to win a money tournament or have someone pay you to couch them. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On December 11 2010 18:36 Tonybarbosa wrote: But, if that's the case and a predilection is what has become the decider for someones capability for becoming pro, then why bother watching esports or even any sports at all? I mean, if its just some kind of predisposition then where's the competition? If you can be predisposed to be able to become a pro, then can you be predisposed to be the best player in the sport that you play in? Or is the predisposition as simple as a +5 to skill level (racial traits olol) that takes you above the potential skill level that hard work and guts can get you, meaning those people that don't have the disposition box checked will always be five points of skill lower than those lucky enough to be born specially geared towards that which they enjoy. Meh, doesn't fly with me =( If its the first option i gave snd predisposition is some kind of exponential potential bonus to skill, then it seems to me that the competitive side of sports is a bit worthless (right now i'm thinking of that runner who completely facerolled the 100m sprint in the olympics; if his genetic difference is really the difference in his ability to run versus other runners, then why bother watching because the match is already decided) Screw arguments for the second option, I can't really be bothered there but if it were the case that that is how pro-potentiality is decided, then it makes me think 'koreans?' 'nimble fingers?' etc. Either there are other really obvious options that I ignored or anyone can become pro, if you agree with what I just said. It's +5/100 rest is training and practice - 95%. Why we watch is to see who's the best but make no mistake all pros in anything have +5 to skill. Star-craft has facets like IQ and reaction time which make up that +5% to bump you into pros - which is why you'll never see a woman at the top, they are slower and not as analytical, nothing they can do about it no matter how hard they practice. Nothing a 40 yr old man can do either. Nothing the majority of us can do either. Make no mistake SC pros are as much athletes as sprinters, football players, chess players whatever. And if you don't have the 5% you'll never be at the top no matter what. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
On December 10 2010 14:09 Talin wrote: Don't commit to anything until you know you've got a decent shot at it. Worst advice in history. Any professional will tell you becoming a pro gamer was a gamble. Taking leaps of faith is what life is about. The very opposite of what you said is true. If you don't try your hardest and push yourself to the limit, you'll never know what you can do, and you'll never achieve anything. In this thread: Lots of people who are jealous, because they do not have the will to go after what they desire, and therefore feel the need to crush the aspirations of someone who does. | ||
RoseTempest
Canada196 Posts
What are you possibly sacrificing: Everything, future jobs, relationships, free time etc. What do you plan to gain: the occasional 50 dollars at some random tournament What are the chances you'll make it pro: next to none. Calculate expected value of each: EV(not going pro) = a good life EV(going pro) = probability of success x rewards + probability of failure + consequences Don't do it, you're young and stupid, no point in throwing away your future. | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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Red.
Spain228 Posts
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Leviwtf
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Brandus
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Tonybarbosa
Australia38 Posts
On December 15 2010 06:08 tdt wrote: It's +5/100 rest is training and practice - 95%. Why we watch is to see who's the best but make no mistake all pros in anything have +5 to skill. Star-craft has facets like IQ and reaction time which make up that +5% to bump you into pros - which is why you'll never see a woman at the top, they are slower and not as analytical, nothing they can do about it no matter how hard they practice. Nothing a 40 yr old man can do either. Nothing the majority of us can do either. Make no mistake SC pros are as much athletes as sprinters, football players, chess players whatever. And if you don't have the 5% you'll never be at the top no matter what. My response to all of that is 'I'm a romantic'.  Hopefully one day a 40 year old woman who is disposed to be both 'analytically' superior and absurdly fast will turn up and rock the sc2 world. She'll have +130% btw i am a prophet | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On December 15 2010 06:15 Uncultured wrote: Worst advice in history. Any professional will tell you becoming a pro gamer was a gamble. Taking leaps of faith is what life is about. The very opposite of what you said is true. If you don't try your hardest and push yourself to the limit, you'll never know what you can do, and you'll never achieve anything. Despite all that, his point still stands as the most logical thought process. Yeah, taking huge, life-altering risks can get you somewhere. No, it doesn't 99.99% of the time. We just don't hear about the failures. If he wants to go pro, he can still attend college/get a job/make a future for himself. It's not like SC will pay his bills even if he does become a pro anyways, unless he's top ~20 in the world. | ||
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billywayne
Brazil109 Posts
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