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echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
December 05 2010 04:20 GMT
#21
I seem to remember QXC doing this.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 05 2010 04:21 GMT
#22
I'd rather get a Raven. Don't understand why more people don't; they're awesome units anyway and if I'm doing banshee harass or something it's easy to get one after, tech labs already up.
Danze
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia219 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 04:23:01
December 05 2010 04:22 GMT
#23
Seems silly to me. Waste of units. Waste of time. When you push out around mid game you tend to scan the tumors anyway / use raven.

If zerg had lurkers however, this would be a different story ^^
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
December 05 2010 04:24 GMT
#24
The reason why it was a cool trick in BW was because a) the unit you're sacrificing was cheaper than the unit you're killing (using tank/reaver splash on marine/zealot for lurker is a good trade, damaging a corsair to yellow health in order to kill a bunch of wraiths is a good trade) and b) there's a pressing need to kill the unit (lurker is killing our natural and we want to mine asap, DT killing hatchery, for example).

Here, you are getting rid of a creep tumor and trading it for hellion HP (and very few minerals repairing them). It's not a good trade. Creep tumors are free. It will only cost the zerg the attention it takes to move a queen over and poop a tumor out. Attention is the only thing it costs, and as the terran you'll be spending more attention getting rid of the creep tumor than the zerg would recovering it

There's also absolutely no pressing need to get rid of the tumor right away. It's not like a lurker killing your natural, where the sooner you get rid of it, the sooner you can mine. If you absolutely had to go on creep NOW in order to exploit a certain timing window, and you really want to get rid of creep tumors, you're not gonna take your sweet ass time waiting on a hellion to shoot 7 times. The only two times I can think of where you absolutely have to get rid of the creep tumor and you can't wait on a raven or a scan is if he's 1) creeped into your natural and you can't land your CC 2) zerg used queen drops to poop inside your base. If that's happening, you're probably so behind that you might as well do the cute hellion trick and feel good about yourself
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
December 05 2010 04:28 GMT
#25
what's your solution when the creep tumor is impossible to guess where it is
your example shows 1 creep tumor with no creep around it making it very easy to just go to the center
in the real game, you'll just be killing your own units
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
December 05 2010 04:35 GMT
#26
If you have the apm to pull this off, awesome :D Much cheaper than spending a scan or getting a raven out. Hats off to you OP!
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universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
December 05 2010 04:36 GMT
#27
why do terran players hate ravens so much? i just don't get it. they're an amazing spellcaster. and scans don't cost 270 minerals, they just delay the speed at which those 270 minerals are mined.

this idea is cute, but it's stupid. do you ever see yourself taking the time out of a game to find the exact center of a creep patch, bring 2 hellions out, have them attack each other, hope no speedlings run out to kill them, and then driving them back home and taking scvs off of mining and spending minerals to heal them JUST TO KILL ONE CREEP TUMOR?

SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
December 05 2010 05:00 GMT
#28
how do you even know where the tumor is. Also too inefficient and impractical but a cool idea nonetheless for games riding on 1 creep tumor
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 05 2010 05:02 GMT
#29
Wasn't there already a thread about this except having siege tanks in the picture instead of helions?

And like people said. Raven. Starport with the techlab can also make banshees can make banshees as well after its done.
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
December 05 2010 05:16 GMT
#30
you can also force fire on empty ground with the hellion attack and kill the creep tumor.
i dunno lol
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
December 05 2010 05:23 GMT
#31
i think this is pretty useful. sometimes I fail killing tumor because not enough scan time or something. maybe that kind of situation is right time to use this.
You know what I'm talking about
Vandal_heart
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom88 Posts
December 05 2010 05:51 GMT
#32
On December 05 2010 14:16 OPSavioR wrote:
you can also force fire on empty ground with the hellion attack and kill the creep tumor.


How does that work?
byFar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States8 Posts
December 05 2010 07:26 GMT
#33
seems like it would take way to much time
FishFuzz99
Profile Joined February 2010
United States152 Posts
December 05 2010 07:30 GMT
#34
All though it's not quite practical, you could emp them, I believe.
VMCTrojan
Profile Joined April 2010
10 Posts
December 05 2010 07:42 GMT
#35
this guy spent too much time watching stork target lurkers with reavers..
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
December 05 2010 10:03 GMT
#36
How do you know where the creep tumor is? It's invisible.
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yrag89
Profile Joined July 2008
Malaysia315 Posts
December 05 2010 10:13 GMT
#37
This can work to kill those tumors that you saw but it just manage to dug inside before you were able to kill it.
secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol - charlie420247
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
December 05 2010 14:17 GMT
#38
I thought you have found a way to know where the tumor is.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 14:26:03
December 05 2010 14:25 GMT
#39
On December 05 2010 19:03 KevinIX wrote:
How do you know where the creep tumor is? It's invisible.


You can imagine where it is depending where the creep ends, but this one need practice. Or you can float a building and move over the creep so you see where exactly it is.

Anyway someone already posted such creep tumor killing this like few months ago.
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vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
December 05 2010 16:43 GMT
#40
On December 05 2010 23:25 Alpina wrote:
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On December 05 2010 19:03 KevinIX wrote:
How do you know where the creep tumor is? It's invisible.


You can imagine where it is depending where the creep ends, but this one need practice. Or you can float a building and move over the creep so you see where exactly it is.


Oh a building! Wow, now I can spend money on a building to float over tumors to see them, just so I can then hurt my own units and spend more money to repair them, all while not mining with the SCV's that are repairing, when I could have just scanned instead to do the same thing.

Not really seeing much upside to this strat to be honest.
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