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pewzzri
Profile Joined June 2010
23 Posts
December 05 2010 18:34 GMT
#2601
On December 06 2010 03:25 banzaiib wrote:
If this patch goes live, i quit zerg... my wrist hurts enough as it is, now i have to hit keys even MORE????? wtf... why not take away protoss's "W" for selecting all warpgates... eh? screw this stupid patch.


Don't you mean quit starcraft 2 ? it applies to eveyone. But enjoy playing wow again, you won't be missed.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
December 05 2010 18:35 GMT
#2602
On December 06 2010 03:25 banzaiib wrote:
If this patch goes live, i quit zerg... my wrist hurts enough as it is, now i have to hit keys even MORE????? wtf... why not take away protoss's "W" for selecting all warpgates... eh? screw this stupid patch.


Good luck hitting "A A A A A A A" x 100 as terran or "Z Z Z Z Z Z Z" as protoss.
KahunaNui
Profile Joined October 2010
Spain257 Posts
December 05 2010 18:39 GMT
#2603
Has anybody tested it yet?
Q. You've been criticized for using cheesy builds in the past, but now people are saying that you've played some good games today. A. I'm glad that they think that way, but that won't stop me from using cheesy builds.(oGsHyperdub)
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 05 2010 18:46 GMT
#2604
On December 06 2010 03:35 Dente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 03:25 banzaiib wrote:
If this patch goes live, i quit zerg... my wrist hurts enough as it is, now i have to hit keys even MORE????? wtf... why not take away protoss's "W" for selecting all warpgates... eh? screw this stupid patch.


Good luck hitting "A A A A A A A" x 100 as terran or "Z Z Z Z Z Z Z" as protoss.

you aren't getting it.

why are YOU queuing up units as Terran or Protoss

Zerg doesn't queue up units, Terran and Protoss SHOULDN'T Queue up units

(T and P build crap one at a time (or two for T's reactors). Zerg uses all their larvae)

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Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 18:49:31
December 05 2010 18:49 GMT
#2605
On December 06 2010 03:46 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 03:35 Dente wrote:
On December 06 2010 03:25 banzaiib wrote:
If this patch goes live, i quit zerg... my wrist hurts enough as it is, now i have to hit keys even MORE????? wtf... why not take away protoss's "W" for selecting all warpgates... eh? screw this stupid patch.


Good luck hitting "A A A A A A A" x 100 as terran or "Z Z Z Z Z Z Z" as protoss.

you aren't getting it.

why are YOU queuing up units as Terran or Protoss

Zerg doesn't queue up units, Terran and Protoss SHOULDN'T Queue up units

(T and P build crap one at a time (or two for T's reactors). Zerg uses all their larvae)



I will explain it because you are the one not getting it. Imagine 5 raxes with a reactor on each. To make 10 marines you need to click 10x on A. That's how it works. T and P need to click for EVERY unit, just like zerg does. What's your point?
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
December 05 2010 18:49 GMT
#2606
On December 06 2010 03:46 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 03:35 Dente wrote:
On December 06 2010 03:25 banzaiib wrote:
If this patch goes live, i quit zerg... my wrist hurts enough as it is, now i have to hit keys even MORE????? wtf... why not take away protoss's "W" for selecting all warpgates... eh? screw this stupid patch.


Good luck hitting "A A A A A A A" x 100 as terran or "Z Z Z Z Z Z Z" as protoss.

you aren't getting it.

why are YOU queuing up units as Terran or Protoss

Zerg doesn't queue up units, Terran and Protoss SHOULDN'T Queue up units

(T and P build crap one at a time (or two for T's reactors). Zerg uses all their larvae)


Ah yes. Good point! I knew it felt weird when I tried to play zerg. (I normally play terran, but mess around with zerg for fun)
That is a lot more pressing than you would do playing terran.
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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
December 05 2010 18:51 GMT
#2607

I will explain it because you are the one not getting it. Imagine 5 raxes with a reactor on each. To make 10 marines you need to click 10x on A. That's how it works. T and P need to click for EVERY unit, just like zerg does. What's your point?


Wow you need to click 10 times? Multiply that by 5 - 10 and you have the number of how many times zerg will need to push a button.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 18:57:33
December 05 2010 18:54 GMT
#2608
On December 06 2010 03:51 solidbebe wrote:

Wow you need to click 10 times? Multiply that by 5 - 10 and you have the number of how many times zerg will need to push a button.


WHY? Imagine that your hatches are bound @ 4. To make 10 roaches you click 4, s, and 10 x R. To make 10 marauders you click 4, and 10 x D. What's the difference????? Am I that stupid?
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 18:59:49
December 05 2010 18:56 GMT
#2609
On December 06 2010 03:51 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +

I will explain it because you are the one not getting it. Imagine 5 raxes with a reactor on each. To make 10 marines you need to click 10x on A. That's how it works. T and P need to click for EVERY unit, just like zerg does. What's your point?


Wow you need to click 10 times? Multiply that by 5 - 10 and you have the number of how many times zerg will need to push a button.


Yeah I'm pretty sure zerg produces 10 to 20 times as many zerglings as terran produces marines.

Oh wait I was thinking about that thing that goes with cheese and crackers.
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Srule
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada181 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 18:58:29
December 05 2010 18:56 GMT
#2610
On December 06 2010 03:49 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 03:46 zhurai wrote:
On December 06 2010 03:35 Dente wrote:
On December 06 2010 03:25 banzaiib wrote:
If this patch goes live, i quit zerg... my wrist hurts enough as it is, now i have to hit keys even MORE????? wtf... why not take away protoss's "W" for selecting all warpgates... eh? screw this stupid patch.


Good luck hitting "A A A A A A A" x 100 as terran or "Z Z Z Z Z Z Z" as protoss.

you aren't getting it.

why are YOU queuing up units as Terran or Protoss

Zerg doesn't queue up units, Terran and Protoss SHOULDN'T Queue up units

(T and P build crap one at a time (or two for T's reactors). Zerg uses all their larvae)


Ah yes. Good point! I knew it felt weird when I tried to play zerg. (I normally play terran, but mess around with zerg for fun)
That is a lot more pressing than you would do playing terran.



Umm no.. To make matters worse T has 4 different buildings to click on. If I have 4 rax, 1 factory, and a star port with a recator I need to click: rax hotkey->DDDD, Factory Hotkey->S, Starport Hotkey->DD, CC Hotkey->S. All that every production cycle just to make 4 Marauders, a tank, 2 dropships, and a scv.

Never mind the fact that i then need to go into my base mid battle and tell a SCV to make a house not just click my hatch hotkey and press v.

Z has it easy.. I play both races and macroing with Z is a lot better even not being able to hold down hotkeys. you guys are funny crying like its the end of the world.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 18:59:05
December 05 2010 18:58 GMT
#2611
On December 06 2010 03:54 Dente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 03:51 solidbebe wrote:

Wow you need to click 10 times? Multiply that by 5 - 10 and you have the number of how many times zerg will need to push a button.


WHY? Imagine that your hatches are bound @ 4. To make 10 roaches you click 4, s, and 10 x R. To make 10 marauders you click 4, and 10 x D. What's the difference?????


Reason is simple, terran and protoss produces units in small intervals and in low numbers, let's say 5 marines every 30 sec, while zerg in late game produces units rarely, but when he does with very big numbers let's say I just traded my army and need 40 roaches so I need to push 40 times - that's crazy.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
December 05 2010 19:03 GMT
#2612
On December 06 2010 03:58 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 03:54 Dente wrote:
On December 06 2010 03:51 solidbebe wrote:

Wow you need to click 10 times? Multiply that by 5 - 10 and you have the number of how many times zerg will need to push a button.


WHY? Imagine that your hatches are bound @ 4. To make 10 roaches you click 4, s, and 10 x R. To make 10 marauders you click 4, and 10 x D. What's the difference?????


Reason is simple, terran and protoss produces units in small intervals and in low numbers, let's say 5 marines every 30 sec, while zerg in late game produces units rarely, but when he does with very big numbers let's say I just traded my army and need 40 roaches so I need to push 40 times - that's crazy.


Euhm no? Lategame terran needs almost as much units as zerg. Don't forget that 2 zerglings = 1x Z. Do you really think a terran only needs to make 5 marines every 30 sec? I hope you are kidding.
Impulsa
Profile Joined November 2010
United States122 Posts
December 05 2010 19:04 GMT
#2613
I rather let the protoss keep the pylon ramp block than let them pump 5-6 phoenix around 6-7 minutes.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 19:15:31
December 05 2010 19:14 GMT
#2614
u can hold in shift and warp in zealots with only 1 z click but u cant hold in shift for larvas so lings must each time click z afaik. i hope im not remembering incorrectly here but i think thats how it is in this ptr

even if im wrong toss units still cost more so it will always be more clicks for zerg than the other races. indeed the race for a man who does not fear carpeltunnel )
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
December 05 2010 19:16 GMT
#2615
On December 06 2010 04:14 MorroW wrote:
u can hold in shift and warp in zealots with only 1 z click but u cant hold in shift for larvas so lings must each time click z afaik. i hope im not remembering incorrectly here but i think thats how it is in this ptr

even if im wrong toss units still cost more so it will always be more clicks for zerg than the other races. indeed the race for a man who does not fear carpeltunnel )


I think it is more like this: shift + Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z.
Xadar
Profile Joined October 2010
497 Posts
December 05 2010 19:23 GMT
#2616
yay, blizzard cares for their players :D
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
December 05 2010 19:23 GMT
#2617
On December 06 2010 04:16 Dente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 04:14 MorroW wrote:
u can hold in shift and warp in zealots with only 1 z click but u cant hold in shift for larvas so lings must each time click z afaik. i hope im not remembering incorrectly here but i think thats how it is in this ptr

even if im wrong toss units still cost more so it will always be more clicks for zerg than the other races. indeed the race for a man who does not fear carpeltunnel )


I think it is more like this: shift + Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z.


you can shift then hold in z and click around. its as many clicks as you need zealots its just done with the mouse hand and not the keyboard hand
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Terrifyer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States338 Posts
December 05 2010 19:25 GMT
#2618
i have always just smashed the keys fast instead of holding them down, didn't know you could hold them down. its not a big deal!
eat shit and die
Laevateinn
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway115 Posts
December 05 2010 19:25 GMT
#2619
On December 06 2010 04:14 MorroW wrote:
u can hold in shift and warp in zealots with only 1 z click but u cant hold in shift for larvas so lings must each time click z afaik. i hope im not remembering incorrectly here but i think thats how it is in this ptr

even if im wrong toss units still cost more so it will always be more clicks for zerg than the other races. indeed the race for a man who does not fear carpeltunnel )


Shift + Z CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 05 2010 19:25 GMT
#2620
Stop whining about the amount of button presses for zerg. Thanks.
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