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Enigmoid
Profile Joined July 2010
United States48 Posts
December 05 2010 14:11 GMT
#2561
I'm not a Zerg player, but based on what I've seen of ZvZ, it seems like the fungal growth nerf will make Mutas way more powerful in ZvZ, since the player that doesn't go Mutas won't be able to use infestors to shut them down anymore. Meanwhile, Protoss air needed a buff, and they got it. I hope it's not too much, though.
Applecakes
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia319 Posts
December 05 2010 14:13 GMT
#2562
On December 05 2010 22:41 fams wrote:
I personally think that with these changes, Phoenix play will be so much stronger against Zerg. They will be able to OV hunt, and pump Phoenix' much faster, and if they make the right composition, I see it being very very difficult for Zerg to counter it. I would have originally said use Infestors with FG, but that is now not an option, which makes it very difficult to tie down the Phoenix'.

Even if you wish to do a ling run-by or hydra/roach play. With the right ground composition, they can block their ramp and prevent an attack, as well as lift many of the hydras with an intense number of Phoenix'.

It is just theory crafting on my part, but it is a concern I have. Thoughts?


If the Protoss has say 3-5 phoenix, a few queens and a spore will protect most of your base. If they ramp up to 12 or so phoenix they're going to have to severely cut their army production. You want to know the counter to a tonne of phoenix? Take another expansion. There's little the Protoss can do to stop it.

Let me repeat again. A "counter" to heavy phoenix play is to macro hard and weather the storm. You can get a large army of roach/hydra/corruptors which is going to roll gate/collossi/phoenix through sheer economic might.

Think about how PvZ with mass phoenix works currently. Phoenix aren't becoming cheaper, they're coming out slightly faster and Zerg actually survives phoenix quite well without infestors even today.
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
December 05 2010 14:55 GMT
#2563
I haven't read the whole thread but won't not being able to place pylons at the bottom of the ramp mess up protoss FE if they want to start walling off with a pylon.
Tritonus
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark125 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 14:58:16
December 05 2010 14:55 GMT
#2564
I'm surprised no one is talking about THE MASTER LEAGUE!!!!1111one

I think it's obvious that the Top200 will be in master league, but who will qualify for this besides the top 200? If Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum and Diamond each represents 20% of the player base, will it now be 16.66% for each, or rather 20%, but with diamond 19% and master 1%?
zaMNal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Mongolia385 Posts
December 05 2010 14:58 GMT
#2565
Master League? Oh c'mon, they stole it from Konami..
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
December 05 2010 16:03 GMT
#2566
I think it will be bronze to platinum 20% each, diamond 15% and masters 5%.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
December 05 2010 16:11 GMT
#2567
wont it be 1% master league
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
December 05 2010 16:13 GMT
#2568
i heard 2%, but dont quot eme
Onioncookie
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany624 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-05 16:17:06
December 05 2010 16:16 GMT
#2569
On December 06 2010 01:13 ktimekiller wrote:
i heard 2%, but dont quot eme


1-2% from Diamond = Masterleague
top 200 from a region = Grandmaster
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 05 2010 16:16 GMT
#2570
On December 06 2010 01:13 ktimekiller wrote:
i heard 2%, but dont quot eme

I believe Diamond is around 6%, so I would think that 1% or less would be master league.
:)
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
December 05 2010 16:25 GMT
#2571
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????
Apologize.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
December 05 2010 16:35 GMT
#2572
On December 06 2010 01:16 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:13 ktimekiller wrote:
i heard 2%, but dont quot eme

I believe Diamond is around 6%, so I would think that 1% or less would be master league.


It's 1-2% OF diamond, that's a HUGE difference. In fact, this is finally something of value, I think this will really distinguish ppl who are good at the game from the "average competitive player", like myself and probably 80-90% here on TL.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
December 05 2010 16:50 GMT
#2573
On December 06 2010 01:25 Neo.NEt wrote:
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????

It does indeed.
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
December 05 2010 16:50 GMT
#2574
On December 06 2010 01:35 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:16 synapse wrote:
On December 06 2010 01:13 ktimekiller wrote:
i heard 2%, but dont quot eme

I believe Diamond is around 6%, so I would think that 1% or less would be master league.


It's 1-2% OF diamond, that's a HUGE difference. In fact, this is finally something of value, I think this will really distinguish ppl who are good at the game from the "average competitive player", like myself and probably 80-90% here on TL.


Yeah I don't think people understand just how few people 1-2% of diamond is going to be...
Apologize.
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
December 05 2010 16:51 GMT
#2575
On December 06 2010 01:50 Darneck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:25 Neo.NEt wrote:
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????

It does indeed.


What's the point of that? What can the 1 game you play say about you that the previous 500 didn't already?
Apologize.
Onioncookie
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany624 Posts
December 05 2010 16:53 GMT
#2576
On December 06 2010 01:51 Neo.NEt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:50 Darneck wrote:
On December 06 2010 01:25 Neo.NEt wrote:
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????

It does indeed.


What's the point of that? What can the 1 game you play say about you that the previous 500 didn't already?


They said ur hidden rating will be saved if theres a reset ... so ur gonna do 1 placement ... and if u have been in diamond in season one u proberbly gonna be placed in diamond again ...
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
December 05 2010 16:54 GMT
#2577
On December 06 2010 01:51 Neo.NEt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:50 Darneck wrote:
On December 06 2010 01:25 Neo.NEt wrote:
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????

It does indeed.


What's the point of that? What can the 1 game you play say about you that the previous 500 didn't already?

Perhaps it is to see if you are still up to standards with your league, idk really.
Daedie
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium160 Posts
December 05 2010 16:55 GMT
#2578
On December 06 2010 01:51 Neo.NEt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:50 Darneck wrote:
On December 06 2010 01:25 Neo.NEt wrote:
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????

It does indeed.


What's the point of that? What can the 1 game you play say about you that the previous 500 didn't already?


They just want you to play a game as a way of telling the system you want to compete in the upcoming season. To avoid inactive people getting placed or something like that. That particular game will have hardly any effect on where you'll be placed.
I like turtles
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
December 05 2010 16:56 GMT
#2579
On December 06 2010 01:54 Darneck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:51 Neo.NEt wrote:
On December 06 2010 01:50 Darneck wrote:
On December 06 2010 01:25 Neo.NEt wrote:
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????

It does indeed.


What's the point of that? What can the 1 game you play say about you that the previous 500 didn't already?

Perhaps it is to see if you are still up to standards with your league, idk really.

How can that be determined with one game?
I mean, what if you loose to some silly cheese.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
December 05 2010 16:57 GMT
#2580
On December 06 2010 01:51 Neo.NEt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 01:50 Darneck wrote:
On December 06 2010 01:25 Neo.NEt wrote:
Does that picture really say "1 placement match re-slots you" ????

It does indeed.


What's the point of that? What can the 1 game you play say about you that the previous 500 didn't already?


It also means that inactive accounts wouldn't automatically be placed in ladders.
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