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dan_dark
Peru127 Posts
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FrostedMiniWeet
United States636 Posts
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Torture
Canada221 Posts
Sales: Any idea how many units SC2 has sold to date. I've found one/two day sales and one month sales but can't find anything up to date. NUMBERS: Anybody have an estimate or know where to find the numbers for how many people watched GSL? MLG? | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
MLG has a partnership with ESPN Link: http://www.mlgpro.com/espn Article on the partnership : Advertising Age Article on MLG/ESPN partnership CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AdAge.com) -- ESPN, the self-proclaimed "worldwide leader in sports," is adding video-gaming coverage to its lineup of football, baseball, basketball and other sports programming. ESPN ESPN will provide online coverage of Major League Gaming's 2008 Pro Circuit competitions. On the heels of the first televised season of DirecTV's "Championship Gaming Series," which featured live professional video-game tournaments, ESPN has entered into a multiyear content agreement with Major League Gaming to provide extensive online coverage of MLG's 2008 Pro Circuit competitions, including exclusive streamed matches, player interviews, scores and stats. ESPN will also feature MLG content in short segments on its existing TV programs. ESPN will be onsite at each of the 2008 MLG Pro Circuit competitions, reporting news from its own coverage booth for various ESPN programs and platforms, including ESPN360.com. That young-male demo Video gaming is one of the most popular activities among young males. According to research from Frank Magid Associates, 34% of males ages 12 to 24 list playing games on consoles such as PlayStation and Xbox as their favorite leisure activity. The next-closest activity, at 14%, is playing sports or exercising. So it's not surprising to see a mainstream media outlet turn its attention to gaming. ESPN's move into covering video games follows those of other TV networks, such as MTV Networks, which has invested in gaming-news sites such as GameTrailers.com and has broadcasted an annual Gamer's Week. "If things work out nicely, I hope to see a larger relationship down the road," said Raphael Poplock, VP-games, ESPN Enterprises. "I'm bullish on professional gaming. This is a nice first step to establish a presence in this space and find out through reader interaction where to take this moving forward." A potential second step could include a future MLG season airing on one of the ESPN TV channels. Mr. Poplock said the network has had great success with its "Madden Nation" reality TV show, which also featured a video-gaming competition, through its partnership with Electronic Arts. As part of the MLG deal, ESPN will launch a section on its website with news, information and video related to competitive gaming. The section will include background on MLG, interviews with top players, video from past competitions and an ESPN/MLG top 10 with regularly updated video highlights. Additionally, MLG will host ESPN co-branded online video-game tournaments. USA Network MLG bought time on USA Network last year to air taped segments chronicling its finals. MLG has had a relationship with ESPN during the year, with gamers from MLG appearing regularly on ESPN 2's "Cold Pizza" morning show. Mr. Poplock said the ESPN Video Games site is performing ahead of expectations. "Our next step with espnvideogames.com will be the launch of a new video-game show early this year that will focus on the latest news, events, big software launches and the competitive gaming space," he said. Mr. Poplock added that a crew was at the Consumer Electronics Show last week taping segments for the show. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On December 03 2010 07:33 FrostedMiniWeet wrote: ESPN doesn't care about e-sports, and neither do most of its viewers, who consider sports to be athletic endeavors. It just doesn't jive with their culture, which pretty much unanimously looks down upon video game playing nerds. E-sports needs its own channel. because poker is and athletic endeavor... Like other people have said espn owns multiple channels, not just espn1. This is going to sound retarded but any one remember the movie dodge ball. Espn "the ocho" showing dodgeball, tractor races etc. Espn do actually have channels that show crazy ass shit lol edit: the first month of sc2 sales, they sold over 3 mill copies and only other numbers i could find was it was predicted to sell 5-6 million copies the first year | ||
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Wargizmo
Australia1237 Posts
Well it may sound silly that ESPN would even consider this, but this IS the same channel that broadcasts "world timbersports challenge" and "worlds strongest man" competitions, it's actually not that far of a stretch. Having said that it would be more likely that G4 or another gaming channel would broadcast this. | ||
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ZomB
United States8 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule18949 Posts
Anyway, I like the idea. But what would ESPN broadcast? ESPN doesn't host leagues and matches, they only report them. They would have to send reporters to leagues (MLG, GSL, whatever) to get coverage, which can't conflict with other things. Seems a bit unrealistic right now. [edit] After reading through the thread a bit more thoroughly, I definitely think this is not the best way to go about getting SC2 televised in the US. | ||
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FrostedMiniWeet
United States636 Posts
On December 03 2010 07:37 Falcor wrote: because poker is and athletic endeavor... Like other people have said espn owns multiple channels, not just espn1. This is going to sound retarded but any one remember the movie dodge ball. Espn "the ocho" showing dodgeball, tractor races etc. Espn do actually have channels that show crazy ass shit lol Yes, Poker is not an athletic endeavorer, but it is not shunned by the "manly men" who consider poker to be a manly sport. If you actually think ESPN would take e-sports serously, regardless of how many nerds loved it, you're fooling yourself. ESPN is run by, and mostly watched by, the guys who beat you and all your nerd friends up in high school. | ||
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Moody
United States750 Posts
Keep up the work. Also, I like the idea of getting Day[9] to mention it on his stream. Which reminds me. Mention in the e-mail that Day[9] has a WEB STREAM (not even on television) that has 10K viewers a day 4 days a week. Also mention that he does it out of his freakin bedroom, no special effects, 1 man band type deal, and STILL gets 10K viewers a day. That's the person that needs to take this to ESPN or G4. Think how much Day[9] could do if his daily was professionally done and on G4 or Spike. I think Starcraft 2 would sell another 3 million copies. | ||
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HungShark
United States134 Posts
I'm in complete support of StarCraft II, and e-sports in general (except Halo, because Halo is trash), growing in the US, and becoming a recognized sport genre. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
Start it off with something like. XXX,XXX,XXX views. $XXXXXXXX a year. NFL? No. XXX,XXX,XXX viewers is the total number of views a single Starcraft 2 broadcaster has accumulated on his youtube channel. $XXXXXXXX, the yearly salary of a professional SC2 player in Korea. Followed by more numbers, a description of the game, some of its famous people, Day9 would be first, he could be SC2s Fatal1ty. Obviously I suck at writing and someone would need to make it sound more professional, but you need to more or less sell something to people who probably have little to no idea what you're talking about at first and will be REALLY, REALLY skeptical. | ||
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faction123
Australia949 Posts
Take baby steps, don't waste their time with these emails just yet. | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
Also, I don't feel that this is really the business of the community. I'm sure there's already parties that are interested in, and that are hard at work at getting this type of thing rolling. Like, oh I dunno, Blizzard perhaps? Also, it's not just a matter of having ESPN say yes. There's two parties involved, three if you count Gretech, who is contractually set up with Blizzard already. I'm not entirely sure Activision/Blizzard would just sit by and not get their hands into the pot. I hate to sound all negative, but I feel that this isn't really necessary... And spamming them is the worst idea ever. If something like this is gonna happen, there has to be an organization behind it that can, and has, something to offer. | ||
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HyDrO-NP-
United States56 Posts
@Rally_Point. I play starcraft quite a bit, and I have played for a long time, but I also watch a lot of Football and basketball, as well as play basketball. So to ESPN viewers are 50+ and SC2 aren't in shape is pretty far off from the truth. Also my dad watches ESPN pretty much everyday when he is not working, but he has also sat and watched me play BW quite a bit and enjoyed watching it. He would sometimes ask me to play a game because he thought it was pretty fun to watch. There is really no telling what could happen. I would just consider spamming the emails, and maybe have all the SC2 communities come together and think of a plan. Like have someone make a poster saying "Show SC2 on ESPN" and give them to the top 10 casters. Get as many people to sign a petition and make a website showing the number of people that have signed. Eventually someone will see it and WANT to show sc2 matches. | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
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Gonzodamus
United States273 Posts
In addition to ESPN, it might also be worth contacting someone at Blizzard. As far as G4/Spike,etc goes - I feel like ESPN would treat it right, so that'd be the place to go first. G4 and Spike are more likely to air it, but I doubt they'll treat it with the respect it deserves. Look at the VGAs :p | ||
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Mr.X
Spain115 Posts
We could send 10000 emails (one per person of course) if we where claiming about something, or because we can not sustain a critical situation or because the company directly owes us something and we want to recover it at all costs. But ESPN does not owe us anything, so we should do things diplomatically. Firmly, but diplomatically. | ||
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Competent
United States406 Posts
On December 03 2010 05:34 Holcan wrote: as if 7,000$ prize pools are interesting when ESPN is used to covering athletes with over $100 million. And 10-20 thousand viewers is nothing compared to to the hundred of thousands of viewers they get for individual regular season games, let alone playoffs which yield millions of internationally interested fans. Its a wasted effort to contact ESPN, you'd be better off asking G4TV to have a more dedicated segment, but even still if everything is on the internet for Esports why do you want to include a media outlet that isnt declining in popularity? The people who want to follow sc2, can and do, so trying to force it into the mainstream is futile. Another good idea would be getting college media outlets to cover the CSL, which probably has the draw of a chess tournament, and a debate team. Admin, I would like to let you know I am restraining myself from insulting this person and breaking a rule on TL. Dear person I just quoted, the OP stated he is trying to get Starcraft 2 a spot in it's off peak hours. In ESPN's off peak hours they do not cover multimillion dollar games, they do not have 100,000 viewers, this being said, you entire response to the OP was in the opposite direction. This could be because one of two problems, one, you did not read it, or two, you have lower than normal intelligence. Thanks. | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On December 03 2010 07:43 FrostedMiniWeet wrote: Yes, Poker is not an athletic endeavorer, but it is not shunned by the "manly men" who consider poker to be a manly sport. If you actually think ESPN would take e-sports serously, regardless of how many nerds loved it, you're fooling yourself. ESPN is run by, and mostly watched by, the guys who beat you and all your nerd friends up in high school. Video games arent shunned by the "manly men" most of them have consoles and play video games. ESPN has already taken e-sports seriosuly when they signed a contract with mlg to cover the circut(and mlg bought gotfrag so thats 2 of the biggest outlets for esports..maily fps's tho). And since at the time of the contract mlg was mostly a console league, consoles were only popular in america. Euro and asia didnt have shit for competitive console teams. So i would bet any money they are already have people keeping tabs on esports, and with SC having a global draw theres a chance they might cover a season and see how it goes. The more video games are accepted the more likely it will be talked about seriously (and with halo/cod its being more and more accepted) and corporations like espn are smart enough to not blindly disregard a potential way to get more companies competing for advertising slots. edit: not to mention sc wouldnt be competing with millions of viewers. SC would be shown when the demograph would be up and willing to watch. And thats not prime time hours. Honestly if it made it on tv before midnight id be shocked. | ||
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