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Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 02 2010 21:26 GMT
#81
There needs to be some moderation in this thread, seriously. If you think this is hopeless or some kind of "bourgeois arrogance" or that OP is an idiot for attempting something like this, that's a pretty cool story bro, why don't you go to one of the gajillion balance threads in the strategy forum and grace some fools with your wisdom. This thread is about improving this letter which I think is a decent idea although the chances of success seem low, but hey, dare to dream, right?

On December 03 2010 05:29 Torture wrote:
As of December 2010 “HuskyStarcraft” has over 300,000 subscribers and more than 100,000,000 combined views.

You want to insert "A Youtube user known as" in front of HuskyStarcraft here so the reader knows what the hell you're talking about.

On December 03 2010 05:29 Torture wrote:
Sean "Day9" Plott........ blabla some sort of sentence about Day9 because he's awesome and the ambassador of eSports in the West.

Here is my attempt:
Another famous e-Sport figure, Sean "Day9" Plott, runs a daily webshow that attracts over (someone who knows the numbers insert them here) viewers per show.


On December 03 2010 05:29 Torture wrote:
(Link to HuskyStarcraft or Day9 or an exciting cast of some sort...any recommendations? Perhaps DreamHack & GSL VOD? Both professionally done and a pretty large scale.)

No. This is bad. Bad bad bad bad bad. The last thing a guy taking a cursory glance at your letter wants to do is go watch some 20-minute long video casted by some dude he doesn't even know about a game he knows nothing about. It will off-put the reader from the focus of your letter, cause him to lose interest, and worst of all, maybe associate the game with juvenile vidya gaemz. If I was an ESPN official who didn't know anything about Starcraft 2, a Husky video on Youtube would make me hate the game and delete this email immediately.

What you want to do is instead say something like, "For more examples of the kind of viewership Starcraft II as a televised e-Sport can attract, consider (stuff)", where stuff can be links to GomTV or some Blizzard hosted page on Blizzcon or an MLG page or some combination of all of them. You want to brute force straight-up out-muscle the reader here and overwhelm him with numbers and statistics so he thinks Starcraft II is the shit. You want him to see the kind of money and viewers and ratings a simple computer game is attracting. You do NOT want to waste his time with videos.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
December 02 2010 21:27 GMT
#82
On December 03 2010 06:25 travis wrote:
Isn't spamming ESPN with thousands of emails of the exact same thing an AMAZINGLY obnoxious thing to do?

I'm going to have to agree with you here. Wouldn't just 1 email work?
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Protoss_Carrier
Profile Joined September 2010
414 Posts
December 02 2010 21:30 GMT
#83
I think they might be able to draw in a new demographics that dont otherwise watch ESPN. This is pretty important and you may want to add that point.

While addition of another big sport would not change the demographics that much (a person who watch one sport are more likely to watch another), the demographics for e-sport can be very different and can bring them new blood.
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 02 2010 21:34 GMT
#84
to all the nay sayers out there, if ESPN recieves 20,000 letters asking for SC2 then they will do the family guy math and realise that if 20,000 people cared enough to write in about it then there must be many many times more people that would watch it.

Around 3 million people play sc2, and if husky has over 100,000,000 views then a very good sized chunk of them watch SC2 related content, no it won't get prime time but unless you ask you shall never recieve.

Family guy has been cancelled 5 times and brought back DUE TO VIEWER DEMAND! Shareholders like profit and to get that they have to listen to their viewers.
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 21:38:58
December 02 2010 21:35 GMT
#85
On December 03 2010 06:24 HyruleanTubist wrote:
I personally would rather watch streams than G4 or Spike. They have so many commercials and even have ads DURING the programming in some cases. ESPN is in a class above those channels. If we can get enough support, this has a very high probability to get on ESPN2 if we do this right. If we could turn on ESPN2 at 3 or 4 am and see Tastosis casting the GSL, I'd be a very happy man. Once we get enough edits from people who actually know english, they will hopefully look at Reddit and TL and see what a strong following it has and consider this.

As a closing, how about

Sincerely,

The Starcraft II Community


What exactly is the difference between turning on Spike and watching GSL and opening a browser and watching GSL? If it's about comfort, you can always hook your computer up to a tv screen.

to all the nay sayers out there, if ESPN recieves 20,000 letters asking for SC2 then they will do the family guy math and realise that if 20,000 people cared enough to write in about it then there must be many many times more people that would watch it.

Around 3 million people play sc2, and if husky has over 100,000,000 views then a very good sized chunk of them watch SC2 related content, no it won't get prime time but unless you ask you shall never recieve.

Family guy has been cancelled 5 times and brought back DUE TO VIEWER DEMAND! Shareholders like profit and to get that they have to listen to their viewers.


And for every box of SC2 sold CoD: BO sold three more. If something is financially unwise, ESPN isn't going to change their decision based on 20K angry nerd letters. If you want to see SC2 on TV America and other places have to culture change. There is just no way atm ESPN or G4 will ever broadcast SC2 when they can go "look, DirecTV tried this already and it failed."
Torture
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada221 Posts
December 02 2010 21:36 GMT
#86
The funny thing, I don't even get ESPN cause I'm in Canada. TSN all the way lol.
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
December 02 2010 21:37 GMT
#87
On December 03 2010 06:27 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 06:25 travis wrote:
Isn't spamming ESPN with thousands of emails of the exact same thing an AMAZINGLY obnoxious thing to do?

I'm going to have to agree with you here. Wouldn't just 1 email work?


I disagree.

1 email can be overlooked.
10 emails can be overlooked.
...
10,000 emails WILL NOT be overlooked.

They won't consider this as an attack that bring down their email system, as long as this done truthfully and sincerely. The only people that will be annoyed are their IT admin, who probably plays Starcraft anyway. The executives will see this as a business opportunity.

Achilles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada385 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 21:40:39
December 02 2010 21:40 GMT
#88
because a company that doesn't carry hockey or footy will carry sc2...gl but dont get hopes up too high
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 02 2010 21:40 GMT
#89
If you try and don't succeed, nothing is lost.

If you don't try, nothing can be gained. So why not?

I think an email campaign by TL, Reddit, Day9, and husky would provide enough thousands of emails that they might think "hey, you know, alot of people game. why not try it out?"
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 21:41:49
December 02 2010 21:41 GMT
#90
as many have stated before me:

you should definitely include how it was successful in korea (in depth). nothing is as convincing as evidence of success like that. i remember seeing stats that sc is #2 viewed channel in korea following the news. #3 is soccer or something like that.

also, don't assume espn knows your lingo. most people dont know what esports are.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 21:43:48
December 02 2010 21:42 GMT
#91
ESPN1/2 coverage is basically never going to happen, but you might be able to get ESPN3 to host something, since its basically just their streaming service.

I'm not very optimistic about this, though. The spelling bee is one of those one-a-year nationals things that has a surprising amount of interest. Stuff thats on during off-peak hours like fishing or hunting doesn't help your argument at all because you'd have to have the event over and then replayed in that timeslot (where you may as well not have it because almost nobody is able to watch it).

I stick to my "shoot for ESPN3."

Also, put all reference links at the very end. You don't want to interrupt the flow of the reading.
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Torture
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada221 Posts
December 02 2010 21:43 GMT
#92
On December 03 2010 06:41 JiYan wrote:
as many have stated before me:

you should definitely include how it was successful in korea (in depth). nothing is as convincing as evidence of success like that. i remember seeing stats that sc is #2 viewed channel in korea following the news. #3 is soccer or something like that.

also, don't assume espn knows your lingo. most people dont know what esports are.


Any idea where you saw those stats? Would love a link so that I could include something like that.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 21:46:53
December 02 2010 21:43 GMT
#93
Thousands of email in an inbox will be viewed as yet another mass online spam effort, a la 4chan, and the email account would most likely be ignored or closed.

You need a prominent figure (read: Day9) to somehow get in touch with a prominent ESPN figure. Work on the personal level, not virtual.

Oh, and the only purpose in getting sc2 onto ESPN would be to reach a wider market, and the viewership already existing for the sports content on ESPN would, in my opinion, largely be uninterested in a "video game claiming to be a sport", in their eyes.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
December 02 2010 21:43 GMT
#94
Forget ESPN, send an email to SyFy, they are the ones broadcasting Ultimate Gamer, you would have much more success there.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 02 2010 21:46 GMT
#95
This isn't that far fetched as it might sound. Eurosport have been showing some eSport on their Eurosport2 channel. I don't have ESP so haven't read the thread if someone mentioned it already.
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dcrowe
Profile Joined September 2010
8 Posts
December 02 2010 21:49 GMT
#96
The prize pools would get instantly larger with the prospect of an ESPN broadcast as advertisers tried to get their name on events.

I think you are on to something here.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
December 02 2010 21:51 GMT
#97
The most they've ever shown of Ultimate Frisbee are occasional video clips. I don't remember seeing lacrosse either. Non-olympic water polo, field events of the track and field variety, arena football, various minor leagues, these don't get air time at espn either.

So why would starcraft? You're more likely to get halo, or even more, paintball.

You could single out spelling bees, but those are very niche events that the general public finds appealing.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
December 02 2010 21:53 GMT
#98
On December 03 2010 05:47 Zzoram wrote:
You'd be better off trying Spike TV or G4 TV.


^ Yeah

I mean, ESPN? That's like telling CNN to cover the story of your cat stuck in a tree.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Danze
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia219 Posts
December 02 2010 21:54 GMT
#99
On December 03 2010 05:41 LambtrOn wrote:
Team Liquid should create their own TV station. TLTV has a nice ring to it.


I'll start planting the trees that grow money and we'll be set.
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mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 21:56:06
December 02 2010 21:55 GMT
#100
On December 03 2010 06:36 Torture wrote:
The funny thing, I don't even get ESPN cause I'm in Canada. TSN all the way lol.


they were showing darts like an hour ago


On December 03 2010 06:53 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 05:47 Zzoram wrote:
You'd be better off trying Spike TV or G4 TV.


^ Yeah

I mean, ESPN? That's like telling CNN to cover the story of your cat stuck in a tree.


Or a fake story of a boy stuck in an air balloon.
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