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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 00:26:27
December 03 2010 00:24 GMT
#161
i hate watching sc on computers, you guys who say "sc would suck on tv" are just stuck on old ways..

this will work, only if you believe in it enough.
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Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
December 03 2010 00:24 GMT
#162
On December 03 2010 08:08 cyprin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 08:05 Proto_Protoss wrote:
Why don't people try something more reasonable like Spike TV or G4TV I hate to sound pessimistic but this will never even get to the Secretary desk of ESPN. I know alot on TL have accepted E-sports as sports. But we are a small percentage of people who feel that way 95% of Americans feel that Starcraft is just another computer games with Nerds playing.



Why are people suggesting G4?
It's a dying channel that shows reruns of cops and cheaters 24 hours a day.



They might cast the EG masters cup on their website, and why not G4.

It is the best place to strike and if we cause a big enough noise we can get it on TV.
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Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
December 03 2010 00:26 GMT
#163
Not going to happen.

Stigma is still there.
It is what it is...
bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
December 03 2010 00:27 GMT
#164
This may not be as far fetched as some of you guys are making it out to be... if you look at the link below, they've broadcasted stuff as random as middle school math competitions, although it was more a yearly thing than a recurring program.

http://mathcounts.org/Page.aspx?pid=202
DoubleLariat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada190 Posts
December 03 2010 00:34 GMT
#165
I believe that the sponsor is powerade not gatorade.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 00:41:13
December 03 2010 00:37 GMT
#166
On December 03 2010 08:11 Baarn wrote:ABC Sports is bigger and better than ESPN. Can give them a shot with emails and see in a couple months if it gets any traction.


ABC Sports has been rebranded ESPN on ABC, and is essentially run by ESPN now.

I think SpikeTV might be the best target for SC2 on cable tv. ESPN could go with video games, but they'd likely want to do with with sport sim console games, not an RTS or even an FPS. People need to stop getting hung up on the idea that "Starcraft is so much better than Madden blah blah blah". ESPN doesn't care how good a game is, they care if their demographic will watch the show. Most of their demographic plays sports sims and are more likely to watch them than they are to watch a game they're unfamiliar with.

Just make sure the letters are very clear in their goal, no fluff. Executives don't have time nor patience for fluff.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 03 2010 00:39 GMT
#167
Why is it impossible? ESPN broadcasted EA Madden championships before, and that was unbelievably shitty TV. SC2 is 100% more exciting and its fan base is much more passionate. Not to mention the fact that the model already exists for broadcasting (Korea). It's very possible to get something like this going. I would not be surprised if in the next 5-10 years we get an ESPN eSports channel. Gotta start somewhere.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
MLG_Wiggin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States767 Posts
December 03 2010 00:42 GMT
#168
Well, I doubt a letter will accomplish much of anything, but I certainly applaud the effort. Good luck to you :D
@DBWiggin, SC2 ref
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 00:46:12
December 03 2010 00:44 GMT
#169
On December 03 2010 08:00 KashmirAZ wrote:
doesn't ESPN also cover the Madden Tour thing? Where they go around the country playing Madden games living on a bus.



Yeah but in the end its still football, and you now how Americans are with their football. I live in the U.S. and its pretty sad how a large majority of people ignore the biggest sport in the world(real football were you actually consistently use your foot a.k.a. Soccer)

Literally you could play spin the Football and put that on ESPN and i pretty sure a ton of people would watch it.

Starcraft being a videogames sadly has no chance due to the cultural shame put upon those who play alot of video games. Now if some famous American (Teen idol/Singer/Actor) starts playing, gets good, and wins something big, and publicizes it, then yeah it will get famous.

But unless some famous person does't consider it as being "Cool", no chance. Unfortunately
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 03 2010 00:47 GMT
#170
If people who love video games think there's no chance then how the fuck are we going to convince other people?
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Doctorjorts
Profile Joined September 2010
58 Posts
December 03 2010 00:51 GMT
#171
On December 03 2010 09:39 Zim23 wrote:
Why is it impossible? ESPN broadcasted EA Madden championships before, and that was unbelievably shitty TV. SC2 is 100% more exciting and its fan base is much more passionate. Not to mention the fact that the model already exists for broadcasting (Korea). It's very possible to get something like this going. I would not be surprised if in the next 5-10 years we get an ESPN eSports channel. Gotta start somewhere.

Madden is a video game about sports, and is part of sports culture since the athletes portrayed by the game love it and pay attention to it. The day Madden is released, every NFL player checks out their in-game ratings.

Starcraft II has nothing to do with sports. It lacks the gross-out-but-can't-look-away factor of professional eating, it doesn't have the oh-those-poor-children factor of spelling bees, and anyone that hasn't played the game would be completely lost. I understand you would have a different casting strategy by trying to dumb things down, but seriously, do you think anyone who hasn't played Starcraft is going to try to figure out the difference between a marine and marauder?

There is comparatively little prize money to be won, and there would be comparatively little viewership in the US.

I would love for it to happen, but it just won't. Definitely not on ESPN or any other major sports network.
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
December 03 2010 00:56 GMT
#172
they show freakin poker and bowling, why not show this too? not that poker and bowling are bad but to be honest they really arent all that exciting to watch
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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
December 03 2010 00:57 GMT
#173
GO GO GO
Team Liquid TV ^^

That would be awesome to be honest, getting back from work, take a shower, grab some food and turn on the TV, sit next to the lady and watch fucking SC2 on ESPN^^

OMFG i wanna
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 03 2010 00:57 GMT
#174
On December 03 2010 09:51 Doctorjorts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2010 09:39 Zim23 wrote:
Why is it impossible? ESPN broadcasted EA Madden championships before, and that was unbelievably shitty TV. SC2 is 100% more exciting and its fan base is much more passionate. Not to mention the fact that the model already exists for broadcasting (Korea). It's very possible to get something like this going. I would not be surprised if in the next 5-10 years we get an ESPN eSports channel. Gotta start somewhere.

Madden is a video game about sports, and is part of sports culture since the athletes portrayed by the game love it and pay attention to it. The day Madden is released, every NFL player checks out their in-game ratings.

Starcraft II has nothing to do with sports. It lacks the gross-out-but-can't-look-away factor of professional eating, it doesn't have the oh-those-poor-children factor of spelling bees, and anyone that hasn't played the game would be completely lost. I understand you would have a different casting strategy by trying to dumb things down, but seriously, do you think anyone who hasn't played Starcraft is going to try to figure out the difference between a marine and marauder?

There is comparatively little prize money to be won, and there would be comparatively little viewership in the US.

I would love for it to happen, but it just won't. Definitely not on ESPN or any other major sports network.

Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
December 03 2010 00:57 GMT
#175
ESPN2 shows the most absurd things. I don't see why they couldn't show starcraft. The things I've seen on ESPN2 include Yo-Yoing, Dominoes and Scrabble. I would think SC2 would get more viewers than these things.
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
December 03 2010 00:59 GMT
#176
On December 03 2010 05:41 gozima wrote:
Do you honestly believe ESPN will be remotely interested in promoting some niche RTS game that draws at most some 20-40 thousand online viewers?

ESPN viewership is in the millions, and I doubt advertisers would be interested in promoting SC2.

Lets be happy with our little corner of the internet and help ensure that it stays alive for years to come. Expanding our E-Sports universe is going to take baby steps not giant leaps of faith.


If they have time for Professional Poker, the X-Games, and Snooker, I think they have time for just about anything as long as it makes sense with their schedule.
♥
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 03 2010 01:00 GMT
#177
On December 03 2010 09:34 DoubleLariat wrote:
I believe that the sponsor is powerade not gatorade.



was going to post this as well.

Also while I'm skeptical they will give a shit, it's still good to try. You never know in a couple of years esports could have a small show on ESPN2/3. Hell they do regional 9 Ball tournaments, I'm sure we can reach the level of proam billards in a few years with esports, assuming we haven't already surpassed these sports.
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mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 01:06:18
December 03 2010 01:03 GMT
#178
it appears that ESPN responded to the email sent by the guy in reddit. Mass emailing will not *force* ESPN to show sc2. Moreover, if we mass email them, they might just end up ignoring us thinking we're just raging nerds.

Also, for all who don't know, The Walt Disney Company owns ABC, ESPN, some other media networks. Disney is the world's largest media conglomerate in terms of revenue according to fortune magazine. If any chance, they might start their own Gaming Channel like OGN or MBC. Idk, but disney is rich as hell.
Torture
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada221 Posts
December 03 2010 01:06 GMT
#179
On December 03 2010 10:03 mardi wrote:
it appears that ESPN responded to the email sent by the guy in reddit. Mass emailing will not *force* ESPN to show sc2. Moreover, if we mass email them, they might just end up ignoring us thinking we're just raging nerds.


It won't force them no, but it will help them realize the potential market.
Thetan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
240 Posts
December 03 2010 01:08 GMT
#180
From the ESPN FAQ (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?page=help/espn-faq#program):

# SUBMIT A PROGRAM PROPOSAL OR STORY IDEA TO ESPN

ESPN's policy does not allow us to accept for review or consideration any ideas, suggestions, or creative materials not solicited by us or our subsidiaries.


So maybe e-mailing ESPN directly might not work. What's (sorry for the ignorance) a subsidiary of ESPN? Because talking to one of THOSE might work.

I'm also pretty sure it's Powerade not Gatorade.
--------------------------------
But to all of you who say that this won't work....it probably won't. But there is a chance. And there's no effort involved for you...OP has written everything. You just need to send an e-mail.

The chances are incredibly small that your e-mail does anything. But the cost of doing so is basically nothing. Are you telling me you wouldn't accept a free lottery tickets b/c the chance of winning the lottery is so small?

Stop the cynicism and just send the god damn e-mail. It won't cost you anything, but the reward could be huge for our community and our sport.
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