On December 01 2010 15:59 a9arnn wrote: Hey, I think I found where he just x'ed out the chat windows, it's a bit after 1:07:09. You can see him read it then just close them really quick. http://www.justin.tv/xblgaming/b/274908235
Good work. I might add that the exact moment is 1:07:19. Pause there and you can clearly see the OP asking why he is not in the bracket.
Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond.
I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices.
XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.
and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64
Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.
On December 01 2010 16:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond.
I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices.
Exactly , this is a non-profit tourney , probably receiving tax breaks for Best Buy , etc. This actually is a legal issue now that you have mentioned , he clearly violated fair play . IMO not something that is just " oh well crybaby , get over it " That kind of apathy here , would have been the last place I expected it by the way .
maybe he removed you cause you kept messaging him and bothering him while streaming, you can only do so much to get someones attention before you annoy them. I still side with you tho.
pi_rate_pir_ate December 01 2010 16:05 Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond.
I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices.
fireflash's lawyer? but to be fair to him also, give him reasonable time to respond to this.
XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.
and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64
Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.
Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^
So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?
Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.
On December 01 2010 16:10 AgresticRage wrote: maybe he removed you cause you kept messaging him and bothering him while streaming, you can only do so much to get someones attention before you annoy them. I still side with you tho.
um when you are running a tournament, a player has every right to bug the guy hosting it, if he isn't sure whats going on with his games. I mean if he didn't wanted to be bothered while casting he should've had somebody help him with coordinating the players.
It's pretty messed up he kicked you out so he could get a more well-known player (LZGamer) into his tournament.
It's extremely unprofessional; I don't think his tournaments should be streamed on TL anymore. He probably wanted a famous player in his tournament so as to attract more viewers. How tacky.
On December 01 2010 14:59 adrenaLinG wrote: To be honest I wish Teamliquid had a "tournament guideline" that people tournament hosts must adhere to in order to be featured on the tournament page. Or even be able to advertise it on the TL forums.
second that . but how could they keep that observed consistently , and still maintain a constant variety of favoritism , elitism , and hypocrisy
EDIT : still, seems rather obvious now that you said it .
Well, the admin will have to review the tournaments to detect such misdemeanor (if OP is truthful) committed by organizers like the Brandon guy.
Unprofessional conduct --> will not be featured in TL ever!
On December 01 2010 16:10 AgresticRage wrote: maybe he removed you cause you kept messaging him and bothering him while streaming, you can only do so much to get someones attention before you annoy them. I still side with you tho.
Maybe he shouldn't run tournaments then or have another person dealing with all the organizing? This is some horrible reasoning, don't host a tournament if you can't do it.
Oh and just for the sake of it, casting every single game like that is horrible, horrible to do. You're making the players wait for forever just because you want to cast everything. It'd be much smoother to cast replays. Another possibility would be to just schedule every game to be played at like, say, 1 hour intervals and then you cast that set and wait for the next set. This way the players wouldn't have to wait and so on.
This makes me so sad, that an tournament organizer would ruin his own name in something that can be as easily tracked as this. Good work OP, for telling us this.
On December 01 2010 15:02 donut boi wrote: how exactly was my post poor... is it cuz i dont capitalize the first word of my sentences? just to save milliseconds? srsly that came from the heart, u cant prohibit true emotion... grammar nazis these days...
User was temp banned for this post.
Hey, maybe this is Brandon in disguise? ~XD~ juz kidding.. totally not serious.
pi_rate_pir_ate December 01 2010 16:05 Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond.
I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices.
fireflash's lawyer? but to be fair to him also, give him reasonable time to respond to this.
yes but we must sue him before the statute of limitations runs out
XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.
and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64
Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.
Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^
So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?
Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.
No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time
EDIT . IF this was legal , tourney directors could sell seats for a percentage of winnings , and just boot out poeple , by waiting to sell them as the tournament gets later in field , they can charge a higher percentage etc. this is just an example of where one could take this type of collusion . One could narrow brackets as they saw fit to give the players they are "invested in " more of winning chances . Basically tournaments such as these are supposed to be based on the accepted standards of fair competition laws , and this most assuredly does not conform to those standards .
XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.
and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64
Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.
Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^
So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?
Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.
No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time , basically a subset of collusion
Yeah makes sense, I just am not aware of all the laws of other countries.
EPT
