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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 01 2010 07:41 GMT
#161
Will the ro16 have to be cancelled on thursday if he does not replay back?
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
December 01 2010 07:42 GMT
#162
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 01 2010 16:19 MrProphylactic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:14 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 16:06 blade55555 wrote:
On December 01 2010 15:59 inf3rnus wrote:
Found this in the logs in http://challonge.com/XBLStarcraft2

XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.

and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64


Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.

Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^

So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?

Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.




No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time

EDIT . IF this was legal , tourney directors could sell seats for a percentage of winnings , and just boot out poeple , by waiting to sell them as the tournament gets later in field , they can charge a higher percentage etc. this is just an example of where one could take this type of collusion . One could narrow brackets as they saw fit to give the players they are "invested in " more of winning chances . Basically tournaments such as these are supposed to be based on the accepted standards of fair competition laws , and this most assuredly does not conform to those standards .


FYI, this isn't close to accurate. This isn't really collusion. The poker site issue is when people play together. Brandon's not doing this to make Lz gamer win. He's not doing this for a slice of the winnings, and his motive in keeping Lz isn't to upset competitive balance, it's to draw viewers. Not trying to sidetrack the thread, but I'd like to quash the baseless legal speculation.

Everyone else is already covered it, 99% sure he's hosed and if so I've been very impressed with your response Plexa. Nice to see you quickly stand up for the guy here.
achacttn
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia82 Posts
December 01 2010 07:42 GMT
#163
Sucks man
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
December 01 2010 07:42 GMT
#164
On December 01 2010 16:41 FinestHour wrote:
Will the ro16 have to be cancelled on thursday if he does not replay back?


it just wont be featured by TL, thats all. the tournament will still take place, probably.
just here
MrProphylactic
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
296 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 07:59:58
December 01 2010 07:42 GMT
#165
On December 01 2010 16:42 Broodwich wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 01 2010 16:19 MrProphylactic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:14 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 16:06 blade55555 wrote:
On December 01 2010 15:59 inf3rnus wrote:
Found this in the logs in http://challonge.com/XBLStarcraft2

XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.

and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64


Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.

Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^

So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?

Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.




No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time

EDIT . IF this was legal , tourney directors could sell seats for a percentage of winnings , and just boot out poeple , by waiting to sell them as the tournament gets later in field , they can charge a higher percentage etc. this is just an example of where one could take this type of collusion . One could narrow brackets as they saw fit to give the players they are "invested in " more of winning chances . Basically tournaments such as these are supposed to be based on the accepted standards of fair competition laws , and this most assuredly does not conform to those standards .


FYI, this isn't close to accurate. This isn't really collusion. The poker site issue is when people play together. Brandon's not doing this to make Lz gamer win. He's not doing this for a slice of the winnings, and his motive in keeping Lz isn't to upset competitive balance, it's to draw viewers. Not trying to sidetrack the thread, but I'd like to quash the baseless legal speculation.

Everyone else is already covered it, 99% sure he's hosed and if so I've been very impressed with your response Plexa. Nice to see you quickly stand up for the guy here.


FYI It is 100 percent correct , as I said it violated fair competition laws , then proceeded to state in which collusion is the more known subset member used by poker sites . Here is a tip , You may try to understand something before you disagree with it . Yes collusion is a form of fair competition laws . nothing I stated was incorrect , please demonstrate if it is . lol your speculation as to what the English words I used in the specific sequence, and their meaning is way off ; speaking of speculation .
Now back up reread my post . then reread your response , and try to find where I say all forms of fair competition are forms of collusion .Or where I imply this was collsu8ion , or where I imply they are mutally exclusive or inclusive . Fail big-time .
I can see you are trying to put words in my mouth . Try again , unlike you I have this bad habit of preferring to understanding something before I choose to disagree with it .I know I dont fit in real well here as a result .

On a side note the motives do not have to be singular for it to be collusion . Lz gamer can merely going for money , where Brandon is trying to attract more popular people , both have to be aware they are violating fair competition however . ( that is irrelevant however to my first point as I stated it violated fair competition , and merely added as a side note collusion is the more known member of this set of definitions .
but the fact of the matter is . it DOES a violate fair competition laws . And I never said this would fit the poker sites form of collusion , you very unskillfully took what I said out of context . I merely said it falls under fair competition laws , just as this does . lmao some people like to argue so much , they look for them where they do not even exist . too funny
"The Beauty of a move is not in its appearance, but the thought behind it" Nimzovitch
Ajunta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany522 Posts
December 01 2010 07:42 GMT
#166
On December 01 2010 16:23 JoeSchmoe wrote:
[image loading]

From the stream. Hoping for a explanation.. =/

this is the nail in the coffin!
I just love the sense of justice on TL. :D

"Let the unjust be punished for we shall not tolerate the weak-minded"
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 01 2010 07:45 GMT
#167
I just noticed he posted his facebook in the original tournament thread...hohoho
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
adrenaLinG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada676 Posts
December 01 2010 07:45 GMT
#168
On December 01 2010 16:42 Broodwich wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 01 2010 16:19 MrProphylactic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:14 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 16:06 blade55555 wrote:
On December 01 2010 15:59 inf3rnus wrote:
Found this in the logs in http://challonge.com/XBLStarcraft2

XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.

and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64


Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.

Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^

So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?

Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.




No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time

EDIT . IF this was legal , tourney directors could sell seats for a percentage of winnings , and just boot out poeple , by waiting to sell them as the tournament gets later in field , they can charge a higher percentage etc. this is just an example of where one could take this type of collusion . One could narrow brackets as they saw fit to give the players they are "invested in " more of winning chances . Basically tournaments such as these are supposed to be based on the accepted standards of fair competition laws , and this most assuredly does not conform to those standards .


FYI, this isn't close to accurate. This isn't really collusion. The poker site issue is when people play together. Brandon's not doing this to make Lz gamer win. He's not doing this for a slice of the winnings, and his motive in keeping Lz isn't to upset competitive balance, it's to draw viewers. Not trying to sidetrack the thread, but I'd like to quash the baseless legal speculation.

Everyone else is already covered it, 99% sure he's hosed and if so I've been very impressed with your response Plexa. Nice to see you quickly stand up for the guy here.

You sound like someone skilled at the art of lawyering. Can you tell us a bit about the impending hate crime prosecution because of his insensitive racial comments and how it will relate and affect the civil suit?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
December 01 2010 07:46 GMT
#169
Hahaha Nothing escapes the E-Detective Keepers of Justice known as TL!

To be fair, I want to hear the other side of the story before I boycott or have any personal opinions. I feel everyone should also be doing the same. Big Props to Plexa for taking something like this seriously, I'm curious to see what Brandon's explanations are.

Sorry to hear it sKuLLz.
pi_rate_pir_ate
Profile Joined April 2010
United States179 Posts
December 01 2010 07:46 GMT
#170
On December 01 2010 16:41 dopesauce wrote:
Besides reading the thread didn't anyone actually watch the stream? I spent a good hour of torture trying to watch my favorite NA players being unprofessionally cast throughout the entire night. I had enough and turned off the stream for state of the game/HuK. There was no synergy amongst casters and the fact that they kept overlapping and interrupting each other was annoying. Then he goes on a rant about how he is doing it for the love of the game and refusing donations but then asks for them?

I am sure running a tournament is an enormous headache, but even watching this one being cast was an absolute travesty and there should be no reason as to why it is on featured team liquid. Its crazy how many top players were training all day for this tournament and how poorly it was ran from organization to the actual live stream of matches.


I watched a lot of the stream. It wasn't great but it wasn't terrible either. Do we need to flame him for that here? If you have a general complaint about his streaming post it here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171449

Hopefully this is all untrue and he will improve as a streamer to the benefit of us all. If it is true hopefully he will own up, make things right, and TL will forgive him and we can all move on.
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
December 01 2010 07:46 GMT
#171
On December 01 2010 16:45 adrenaLinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:42 Broodwich wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 01 2010 16:19 MrProphylactic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:14 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 16:06 blade55555 wrote:
On December 01 2010 15:59 inf3rnus wrote:
Found this in the logs in http://challonge.com/XBLStarcraft2

XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.

and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64


Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.

Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^

So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?

Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.




No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time

EDIT . IF this was legal , tourney directors could sell seats for a percentage of winnings , and just boot out poeple , by waiting to sell them as the tournament gets later in field , they can charge a higher percentage etc. this is just an example of where one could take this type of collusion . One could narrow brackets as they saw fit to give the players they are "invested in " more of winning chances . Basically tournaments such as these are supposed to be based on the accepted standards of fair competition laws , and this most assuredly does not conform to those standards .


FYI, this isn't close to accurate. This isn't really collusion. The poker site issue is when people play together. Brandon's not doing this to make Lz gamer win. He's not doing this for a slice of the winnings, and his motive in keeping Lz isn't to upset competitive balance, it's to draw viewers. Not trying to sidetrack the thread, but I'd like to quash the baseless legal speculation.

Everyone else is already covered it, 99% sure he's hosed and if so I've been very impressed with your response Plexa. Nice to see you quickly stand up for the guy here.

You sound like someone skilled at the art of lawyering. Can you tell us a bit about the impending hate crime prosecution because of his insensitive racial comments and how it will relate and affect the civil suit?


100% guilty. They'll take all his moneys.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 01 2010 07:47 GMT
#172
On December 01 2010 16:45 FinestHour wrote:
I just noticed he posted his facebook in the original tournament thread...hohoho


Why does that even remotely matter?
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 07:59:17
December 01 2010 07:48 GMT
#173
Why $500 XBLGaming tournament is still on upcoming events? Why TL is still supporting those douchebags?

Edit: TL is waiting for response from XBLGaming tournament before taking any action.
Its grack
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 01 2010 07:50 GMT
#174
On December 01 2010 16:47 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:45 FinestHour wrote:
I just noticed he posted his facebook in the original tournament thread...hohoho


Why does that even remotely matter?


I happened to notice he was a fine looking fellow, thats all.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 07:54:37
December 01 2010 07:50 GMT
#175
adrenaLinG December 01 2010 16:16
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:11 gongryong wrote:
pi_rate_pir_ate December 01 2010 16:05
Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond.

I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices.


fireflash's lawyer?
but to be fair to him also, give him reasonable time to respond to this.


yes but we must sue him before the statute of limitations runs out


MrProphylactic December 01 2010 16:19
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:14 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 16:06 blade55555 wrote:
On December 01 2010 15:59 inf3rnus wrote:
Found this in the logs in http://challonge.com/XBLStarcraft2

XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.

and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64


Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.

Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^

So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?

Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.




No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time

EDIT . IF this was legal , tourney directors could sell seats for a percentage of winnings , and just boot out poeple , by waiting to sell them as the tournament gets later in field , they can charge a higher percentage etc. this is just an example of where one could take this type of collusion . One could narrow brackets as they saw fit to give the players they are "invested in " more of winning chances . Basically tournaments such as these are supposed to be based on the accepted standards of fair competition laws , and this most assuredly does not conform to those standards .



it depends. OP did you have some sort of contract or did they send you tournament by-laws?
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
Broodwich
Profile Joined February 2009
United States393 Posts
December 01 2010 07:51 GMT
#176
On December 01 2010 16:48 bokeevboke wrote:
Why $500 XBLGaming tournament is still on upcoming events? Why TL is still supporting those douchebags?


Read the thread yo. They're giving the tournament a chance to respond before acting.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
December 01 2010 07:51 GMT
#177
On December 01 2010 16:47 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 16:45 FinestHour wrote:
I just noticed he posted his facebook in the original tournament thread...hohoho


Why does that even remotely matter?

Odds are that he has seen this thread if he visited his own.
Brandon33470
Profile Joined October 2010
United States200 Posts
December 01 2010 07:52 GMT
#178
This was all a huge misunderstanding and TQSkullz will be put back into the actual Bracket. I had 2-3 Mods this time with me and I should of kept it to myself and ran things by myself. I will add TQSkullz back to the Bracket where he belongs.

I am sorry about the delayed response tonight TQSkullz as I was very very busy tonight.
Everything I do... I do it BIG! http://www.justin.tv/FireFlashTV
MrProphylactic
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
296 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 08:07:46
December 01 2010 07:52 GMT
#179
On December 01 2010 16:50 gongryong wrote:
Show nested quote +
adrenaLinG December 01 2010 16:16
On December 01 2010 16:11 gongryong wrote:
pi_rate_pir_ate December 01 2010 16:05
Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond.

I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices.


fireflash's lawyer?
but to be fair to him also, give him reasonable time to respond to this.


yes but we must sue him before the statute of limitations runs out


Show nested quote +
MrProphylactic December 01 2010 16:19
On December 01 2010 16:14 Shikyo wrote:
On December 01 2010 16:06 blade55555 wrote:
On December 01 2010 15:59 inf3rnus wrote:
Found this in the logs in http://challonge.com/XBLStarcraft2

XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327.

and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64


Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason.

Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^

So instead of having Ngry play vs LZGamer later on(even though this would be really bad as well but at least almost makes sense), he's going to replace a random player with LZGamer?

Yeah, seems like I fully support closing the tournament thread,banning organizer, unfeaturing etc. This is totally messed up and might be illegal as well, you have his realID so that can be handled as well if it turns out to not be legal.




No might about it , it is illegal . It is called fair competition : or otherwise known as collusion , poker sites deal with these types of laws all the time

EDIT . IF this was legal , tourney directors could sell seats for a percentage of winnings , and just boot out poeple , by waiting to sell them as the tournament gets later in field , they can charge a higher percentage etc. this is just an example of where one could take this type of collusion . One could narrow brackets as they saw fit to give the players they are "invested in " more of winning chances . Basically tournaments such as these are supposed to be based on the accepted standards of fair competition laws , and this most assuredly does not conform to those standards .


it depends. OP did you have some sort of contract or did they send you tournament by-laws?



The USA has something called Fair competition laws . They are implied in all money competitions


otherwise known as antitrust laws in the USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_law

and for those who doubt collusion is a from of antitrust laws ,

( This is for the person r that seems to think collusion is not fair competition laws from what I could gather from his response , well he wasn't real clear as he took everything I tried to say out of context , but here you , heres a simple wiki link , gives a brief history on antitrust concepts go educate yourself ...
"The Beauty of a move is not in its appearance, but the thought behind it" Nimzovitch
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
December 01 2010 07:54 GMT
#180
I dunno what to say about this.. I was contacted.. asked why i didnt show (and i wasnt sure what he was refurring too..) there is so many tournaments in sc2 its hard to keep track of everything you get invited too / signup for.. so he told me which tournament and i told him "oh sorry i guess i forgot" and he said there was alot of people who didnt show up.. and asked if i wanted to (take somone's place.. where both players didnt show up). So it seemed ok.. since it would have ment somone would have got a bye in the RO32. But After reading this.. I had no idea I replaced somone who did show up/expected to play in this tournament.

So i just wanna say I'm sorry this happend..
I will gladly Give you my spot which is actually your's in the first place. If you so wish

-Jacob LzGaMeR Winstead~
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