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Brandon33470
Profile Joined October 2010
United States200 Posts
December 01 2010 08:03 GMT
#201
Lz vs. Cheese never happend cuz Cheese didnt log on till after the Round was over tonight.
Everything I do... I do it BIG! http://www.justin.tv/FireFlashTV
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
December 01 2010 08:04 GMT
#202
Glad to hear that Lz

In the best scope, if it was just a mistake (very possible with one person handling 64 entrants), then all should be forgiven in my opinion.

Stick with it TQSkullz, you have our support!
C r u m b l i n g
Dog22
Profile Joined April 2010
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 08:07:40
December 01 2010 08:04 GMT
#203
I actually stopped watching this tournament because of the way Fireflash was treating the players. He would completely ignore so many different people (I can understand ignoring random people , but not the players in the tournament he is hosting).

This may not be the right place to rant about this tournament, so I apologize if this is out of line. However, There was one specific instance which caused me to close the stream out of frustration. Fireflash was going to cast the game between AllAboutYou and Alej. He invited both of the players to the game telling them it would be cast. Allaboutyou requested to play later because he had homework. Fireflash tells him that's fine...and without letting Alej know of the situation he kicks him from the game, invites kawaiirice and streams his match. Alej messages fireflash asking what happened. Fireflash reads the message, then closes it without a reply. To me, that was completely unacceptable. He left one of the players entirely in the dark and confused about his match, right after saying he was going to cast the game. I'll never watch another tournament hosted by him. Maybe I'm being too extreme, but the way he treated the players bothered me to no end. This situation with the OP just enforces what I thought before.

Again, I apologize if this is the wrong place to rant...feel free to delete my post if it is out of line.
Brandon33470
Profile Joined October 2010
United States200 Posts
December 01 2010 08:05 GMT
#204
Bracket has been fixed

http://challonge.com/xblstarcraft2

Skullz vs. Catz is the matchup

Skullz would have advanced tonight as Cheese was a no show.
Everything I do... I do it BIG! http://www.justin.tv/FireFlashTV
Zerothegreat
Profile Joined September 2010
United States787 Posts
December 01 2010 08:06 GMT
#205
Yea there is still the question of him responding and telling the guy he was still in the bracket during the whole thing then ignoring and removing him.
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
December 01 2010 08:07 GMT
#206
On December 01 2010 17:05 Brandon33470 wrote:
Bracket has been fixed

http://challonge.com/xblstarcraft2

Skullz vs. Catz is the matchup

Skullz would have advanced tonight as Cheese was a no show.


Wanna post it again? I don't think we got it the first 4 times
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 08:08:36
December 01 2010 08:07 GMT
#207
I'd just like to say Thanks to Brandon for taking his time to run tournaments like this and be a presence in E-sports.

As for this thread, I'd be willing to let it all slide really, just take this as constructive criticism. We can all do some things better, perhaps in this case you should be more vigilant with the players in the tournament and how they are taken care of.
OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
December 01 2010 08:07 GMT
#208
On December 01 2010 14:24 Plexa wrote:
Yeah replacing players mid tournament is very unprofessional. I would like to hear a statement about this. If we don't hear some explanations I don't think it's right for this tournament to be featured on TL any longer.

Very good to hear from you plexa :D
i dunno lol
Bluetea
Profile Joined August 2010
United States185 Posts
December 01 2010 08:07 GMT
#209
On December 01 2010 17:04 Dog22 wrote:
There was one specific instance which caused me to close the stream out of frustration. Fireflash was going to cast the game between AllAboutYou and Alejo (not sure if I have this name right). He invited both of the players to the game telling them it would be cast. Allaboutyou requested to play later because he had homework. Fireflash tells him that's fine...and without letting Alejo (again, not sure if this is the correct name) know of the situation he kicks him from the game, invites kawaiirice and streams his match. Alejo messages fireflash asking what happened. Fireflash reads the message, then closes it without a reply. To me, that was completely unacceptable. He left one of the players entirely in the dark and confused about his match, right after saying he was going to cast the game. I'll never watch another tournament hosted by him.


This basically sums up the poor quality of this tournament and FireFlash's illegitimacy.
All these bitches is my sons.
Brandon33470
Profile Joined October 2010
United States200 Posts
December 01 2010 08:07 GMT
#210
I remove everyone after I see they are not on the bracket anymore. Its just something I do, this was just brought to my attention about TQSkullz. I apologize sincerely and actions were taken and Skullz has been added back to the bracket.

http://challonge.com/xblstarcraft2
Everything I do... I do it BIG! http://www.justin.tv/FireFlashTV
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 01 2010 08:08 GMT
#211
From my standpoint, the skullz situation is the tip of the ice berg. It appears as though this whole tournament has been conducted unprofessionally.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-01 08:12:11
December 01 2010 08:10 GMT
#212
people we should all learn to forgive and let go.
brandon already explained his side. He may be lying or not,
bm, irresponsible, and unprofessional, but that's on HIM.
just forgive (and mark for future reference).
we are made of better stuff.

if i were OP, id say thanks brandon, it's no sweat. thanks Lz that was dude gesture.
But it's yours now and i have moved on already. xd
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
MrProphylactic
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
296 Posts
December 01 2010 08:10 GMT
#213
On December 01 2010 16:54 Lz wrote:
I dunno what to say about this.. I was contacted.. asked why i didnt show (and i wasnt sure what he was refurring too..) there is so many tournaments in sc2 its hard to keep track of everything you get invited too / signup for.. so he told me which tournament and i told him "oh sorry i guess i forgot" and he said there was alot of people who didnt show up.. and asked if i wanted to (take somone's place.. where both players didnt show up). So it seemed ok.. since it would have ment somone would have got a bye in the RO32. But After reading this.. I had no idea I replaced somone who did show up/expected to play in this tournament.

So i just wanna say I'm sorry this happend..
I will gladly Give you my spot which is actually your's in the first place. If you so wish

-Jacob LzGaMeR Winstead~



At least we can count on the players to act with integrity , way to go LZ
"The Beauty of a move is not in its appearance, but the thought behind it" Nimzovitch
Brandon33470
Profile Joined October 2010
United States200 Posts
December 01 2010 08:11 GMT
#214
Our $1000 Invitational went perfectly fine last week with all these players in it as well. There was not one problem and the only problem of this entire tournament this time was the TQSkullz issue which was just brought to my attention and fixed instantly.

Yes I messed up, you have to understand one person running a 64 man tournament while live streaming the entire thing by myself and getting everyone lined up on a scheudle as well as casting can be very stressful. I made a mistake I admitted I made the mistake and I fixed my mistake
Everything I do... I do it BIG! http://www.justin.tv/FireFlashTV
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
December 01 2010 08:12 GMT
#215
On December 01 2010 17:07 Slardar wrote:
I'd just like to say Thanks to Brian for taking his time to run tournaments like this and be a presence in E-sports.

As for this thread, I'd be willing to let it all slide really, just take this as constructive criticism. We can all do some things better, perhaps in this case you should be more vigilant with the players in the tournament and how they are taken care of.

Let it slide as he's a "presence in E-sports", are you kidding me? If fans of the game can't even take this tournament seriously because of how unprofessionally it was run everyone should just move on because he's 'helping e-sports'?

This whole situation is beyond unaccapteble, and the 'clarification' Brandon provided is hardly adequate. "Oops, glad you told me you were left out of the tournament again, I was busy the other few times" is not bloody enough.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
December 01 2010 08:13 GMT
#216
I recall you stating on your stream that you are basically the only one moderating and running this tournament, with the occasional assistance of a few moderators and casters alongside. Perhaps you can save yourself of issues and headache by investing into multiple moderators with segregated duties that can mandate certain portions of tournaments (i.e, bracketing issues, disputes, scheduling) so as to have a smooth tournament. I know of almost no successful tournament in any venue of life that is run by one person only.

(And feel free to correct me if I am wrong in saying that you are the only one with a gigantic majority of responsibility in this tournament).
C r u m b l i n g
qosu.tQ
Profile Joined October 2010
United States32 Posts
December 01 2010 08:14 GMT
#217
Friend removes everyone in tQ, claims to still be a part of us, and then acts like he didn't remove skullz intentionally.

This really is hilarious.
habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
December 01 2010 08:14 GMT
#218
ya... he is so clearly lying and trying to cover himself... so many things point to that. I mean why would you put on your bracket that a no show wins 2-0 over another no show? What in the world made you pick skullz as the "no show" that won? And the excuse "i confused him with his opponent" makes even less sense as the log shows he put skullz through originally on the bracket...

Along wit the other issues I sincerely hope TL doesn't allow the rest of this tournament or any future ones to be put on the calendar and especially not featured.
Brandon33470
Profile Joined October 2010
United States200 Posts
December 01 2010 08:14 GMT
#219
Our $1000 Invitational run last week with 64 top tier players went flawless with not one problem and I did the entire thing and streamed/casted myself untill the semi's
Everything I do... I do it BIG! http://www.justin.tv/FireFlashTV
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 01 2010 08:15 GMT
#220
On December 01 2010 17:14 qosu.tQ wrote:
Friend removes everyone in tQ, claims to still be a part of us, and then acts like he didn't remove skullz intentionally.

This really is hilarious.

Sounds like there is more to this story than what brandon is letting on.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
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