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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Brandon33470
United States200 Posts
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MiniTsunami
United States274 Posts
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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StimCraft
United States144 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
If you were watching the stream and have some helpful comments/evidence, then talk about it. If you are one of the participants and have some comments about the tournament, post. If you are one of the organizers, please explain. Mods, well mods will do their job. Everyone else, if you have nothing helpful to add, stop making the issue more confusing. Stop flooding the thread with useless posts. It's just making things worse. | ||
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MrProphylactic
296 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:00 Broodwich wrote: No, we don't have anything called "Fair competition" laws. That's a non-US term. We have antitrust laws. Please stop, you're sidetracking talking about something you don't really know much about. LMAO , YOU ARE ABOUT 3 PAGES Too LATE GENIUS , here try my second post or so , where I equate fair competition laws to antitrust laws , and by the way collusion and fair competition are a subset of antitrust , get a brain please , the difference iw purely semantic ( which ironically enough I already pointed out ) You remind me of my 5 year old niece walking into an adult movie way over her head mid-way through , and she pretends she knows what is going on . The semantic turn you just took is absurdly incorrect , lol , as I ALREADY USED THAT TERM LIKE 3 PAGES BACK . On a side Note I think a comic could get endless human behavior material at these forum type sites . The type of responses I see here never cease to amaze me . Please do not stop however, if you were to stop this type of nonsensicality , where would I get my daily explosion of sympathetic laughter . | ||
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Slardar
Canada7595 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:12 vyyye wrote: Let it slide as he's a "presence in E-sports", are you kidding me? If fans of the game can't even take this tournament seriously because of how unprofessionally it was run everyone should just move on because he's 'helping e-sports'? This whole situation is beyond unaccapteble, and the 'clarification' Brandon provided is hardly adequate. "Oops, glad you told me you were left out of the tournament again, I was busy the other few times" is not bloody enough. Look man, the simple matter of fact is you can analyze and draw conclusions however you want them, at least he's organizing and running the show I'll give him credit and it's probably not as easy as it looks(hell if I'd know.) He's trying to make amends with every post, It can be that there was an ulterior motif to the actions but I doubt anybody can really "prove" any of it. Best thing to do is let it slide, if anyone is to be the judge let it be Plexa. (For example, is it mere coincidence that Lz posted such a mannerly post nullifying the situation moments after Brandon made his post? Or is it Brandon getting Lz to help cover up the problem? Does it really matter?) | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:11 Brandon33470 wrote: Our $1000 Invitational went perfectly fine last week with all these players in it as well. There was not one problem and the only problem of this entire tournament this time was the TQSkullz issue which was just brought to my attention and fixed instantly. Yes I messed up, you have to understand one person running a 64 man tournament while live streaming the entire thing by myself and getting everyone lined up on a scheudle as well as casting can be very stressful. I made a mistake I admitted I made the mistake and I fixed my mistake I honestly don't see how you this issue was just brought to your attention. TQSkullz clearly tried to contact you but you ignored him and removed him from your friends list. It would appear you're only attention to this now because your name has been tossed into the open. But that stuff is not that important now. Point is if you're going to run a tournament of this magnitude you should be prepared for it right? | ||
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Glaven
Canada554 Posts
 I'm proud of you. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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j0k3r
United States577 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:16 Brandon33470 wrote: If you don't want me here thats fine and I understand and I accept my punishment. I honestly made a mistake and corrected it. Thats all I can say Not really, because things like this are bound to happen in a 1 man show with over 128 players to communicate with and organize. Why in the name of god are you against having help? AS stated above me, bring in other admins to do the behind the scenes work, contacting players about estimated times to show up, updating brackets, reviewing reps etc. I find it ludicrous to manage this beast of a tournament with $500 on the line all by yourself. You claim you can do a good job, but from all evidence that's not what has happened so far. I was a fan of yours in the beginning (for the $1000 tourney) but the arrogance and also disrespect for participating players has really driven me away. | ||
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Brandon33470
United States200 Posts
ROOTQXC won 1st Place Duffman won 2nd Place AllAboutYou won 3rd place anyone who has played in my tournament I have ran or still running can vouch I do a very good job and I am always trying to answer questions on battle.net its just hard to answer all the whispers while live streaming a match / casting. | ||
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
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pi_rate_pir_ate
United States179 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:15 Plexa wrote: Sounds like there is more to this story than what brandon is letting on. Plexa, I'm curious what you expect of Brandon in order to fix this in the eyes of TL? It seems to me that if he fixes his bracket he should at least be allowed to continue on probation. Obviously we will all be watching him closely. I accept Brandon's apology, does skulls? Thank you LZ for being an awesome pro. | ||
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:11 Brandon33470 wrote: Our $1000 Invitational went perfectly fine last week with all these players in it as well. There was not one problem and the only problem of this entire tournament this time was the TQSkullz issue which was just brought to my attention and fixed instantly. Yes I messed up, you have to understand one person running a 64 man tournament while live streaming the entire thing by myself and getting everyone lined up on a scheudle as well as casting can be very stressful. I made a mistake I admitted I made the mistake and I fixed my mistake All respect for you running a tournament, but this is hardly about that. You removed 1 player and replaced him with another one just to increase the esteem of the tour. And didn't even tell him, just trying some casual ignoring to see if he would go away? You can't really claim you accidently removed a person from the bracket and put in lzgamer without realising it because you were under stress... Imo you're spineless and an utter disgrace for in e-sports. | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:07 Brandon33470 wrote: I remove everyone after I see they are not on the bracket anymore. Its just something I do, this was just brought to my attention about TQSkullz. I apologize sincerely and actions were taken and Skullz has been added back to the bracket. http://challonge.com/xblstarcraft2 That's a pretty damn bad thing to do when they're asking you questions relating to the tournament and their games. -_- | ||
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adrenaLinG
Canada676 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:14 qosu.tQ wrote: Friend removes everyone in tQ, claims to still be a part of us, and then acts like he didn't remove skullz intentionally. This really is hilarious. sounds like a frenemy | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 01 2010 17:22 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: Plexa, I'm curious what you expect of Brandon in order to fix this in the eyes of TL? It seems to me that if he fixes his bracket he should at least be allowed to continue on probation. Obviously we will all be watching him closely. I accept Brandon's apology, does skulls? Thank you LZ for being an awesome pro. I just see Brandon posting about running successful tournaments and saying people have been restored to the bracket - that doesn't magically fix the situation. There are multiple issues to be addressed here (him supposedly removing everyone from tq from his friends list, other accusations of poor player treatment etc) and further I am interested to see what skullz has to say. To clarify, his event is still listed on the calendar and I haven't taken any action yet. I simply believe there is more to this story that what's been said and I'm not just going to close it because Brandon replied. | ||
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