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From the stream. Hoping for a explanation.. =/
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
![]() From the stream. Hoping for a explanation.. =/ | ||
Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
Can't help feeling like it was just because Lz is "known" - nothing against him cos its obv not his fault, sure he knew nothing about this. Still not only his actions but the way he handled it was extremely unprofessional. | ||
pi_rate_pir_ate
United States179 Posts
They also need to know that the prize money is given fairly to whomever performs better. If they can be dropped apart from the rules, then the tournament is completely fake, and the competition is completely invalid. | ||
Zeles
United States335 Posts
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TheGiftedApe
United States1243 Posts
This guy messed up and did a horrible job organizing his tourney, He didnt commit murder. The OP even states that when brandon asked him if he ever got to play his game, that the OP DID NOT RESPOND! that right there is grounds for removal from the tourney. brandon should be scolded and warned, but anything beyond that is ridiculous. | ||
shabinka
United States469 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:26 TheGiftedApe wrote: omg, now you guys want to sue him, that will sure help build e-sports in north america, now that sponser's will fear being sued by the players lmao. This guy messed up and did a horrible job organizing his tourney, He didnt commit murder. The OP even states that when brandon asked him if he ever got to play his game, that the OP DID NOT RESPOND! that right there is grounds for removal from the tourney. brandon should be scolded and warned, but anything beyond that is ridiculous. Did you read the entire post? | ||
Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:06 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2010 15:59 inf3rnus wrote: Found this in the logs in http://challonge.com/XBLStarcraft2 XBLFireFlash reported a (2-0) win for NGry.791 over EGLzGamer.327. and the brackets say NGry's opponent was a no show in r64 Yes I know Ngry we talk on vent and last night he waited 3 hours for lzgamer but he never showed up so he told the admin and the admin at first said that if he doesn't show he gets the walkover. Ngry talked to him a little later and he did give Ngry the walkover but yeah guess he just decided to switch him out for another for whatever reason. Hopefully he resolves this or something ^^ Yea, I think this kinda proves to be what everyone already assumed. LZGamer didn't show up for the Ro64 vs his opponent NGry. Now what should have happened, if LZGamer had a good reason for not making it to ask NGry if he would play LZGamer and let NGry decide to take the Bye or not. But, instead Brandon just replaces a guy he probably thought was disposable. He made a very poor decision and should have kept everything in fair play. Especially when money is on the line. | ||
meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. Mods can see a list of people who are "active" on TL... and Plexa's said that he was active on TL so should have gotten the PM already. | ||
SKtheAnathema
United States885 Posts
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pi_rate_pir_ate
United States179 Posts
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MrProphylactic
296 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:16 adrenaLinG wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2010 16:11 gongryong wrote: pi_rate_pir_ate December 01 2010 16:05 Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. fireflash's lawyer? but to be fair to him also, give him reasonable time to respond to this. yes but we must sue him before the statute of limitations runs out Yeah we better hurry before the two years is up for the civil suit to be filed ![]() | ||
chocoed
United States398 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:29 meeple wrote: I didn't say that Show nested quote + On December 01 2010 16:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. Mods can see a list of people who are "active" on TL... and Plexa's said that he was active on TL so should have gotten the PM already. ![]() On December 01 2010 16:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: He has until the next broadcast for his tournament, that seems fair in my eyes.Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. | ||
pi_rate_pir_ate
United States179 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:29 meeple wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2010 16:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. Mods can see a list of people who are "active" on TL... and Plexa's said that he was active on TL so should have gotten the PM already. Thanks for pointing that out. Just because he is active doesn't prove he will have received a message, but hopefully he will see it before he goes to sleep! I know that sometimes I just leave my computer on. Obviously I think this is a pretty bad situation, but if I have to I will start defending him because he does deserve not to be quickly judged. | ||
divertiti
Canada106 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:23 JoeSchmoe wrote: ![]() From the stream. Hoping for a explanation.. =/ This isn't any type of mistake, this is as deliberate as they come. Hope you get some justice OP. | ||
pi_rate_pir_ate
United States179 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:32 Plexa wrote: Show nested quote + I didn't say that On December 01 2010 16:29 meeple wrote: On December 01 2010 16:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. Mods can see a list of people who are "active" on TL... and Plexa's said that he was active on TL so should have gotten the PM already. ![]() Show nested quote + He has until the next broadcast for his tournament, that seems fair in my eyes.On December 01 2010 16:05 pi_rate_pir_ate wrote: Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. That sounds very fair. I sure hope this is all untrue. For once I really appreciate the active MODS on TL! Thnx Plexa. | ||
adrenaLinG
Canada676 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:30 MrProphylactic wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2010 16:16 adrenaLinG wrote: On December 01 2010 16:11 gongryong wrote: pi_rate_pir_ate December 01 2010 16:05 Plexa, he might not be on until Thursday. He said he was spending tomorrow with his fiancee. Seems fair to give him at least until then to respond. I hope somehow this isn't true because I enjoy the tournament, but I don't really want to watch tournaments that drop people. It is definitely a legal issue when money is on the line. Anytime prize money is offered the people offering it are responsible to their government's laws about honest and fair practices. fireflash's lawyer? but to be fair to him also, give him reasonable time to respond to this. yes but we must sue him before the statute of limitations runs out Yeah we better hurry before the two years is up for the civil suit to be filed ![]() it might be upgraded to a hate crime now, making it a criminal prosecution, because of his derogatory comments[1]. ![]() [1] See Zeles (2010, November 30). Removed without reason, beware!. Teamliquid Forums. Retrieved November 30, 2010 from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=7146156 | ||
alphafuzard
United States1610 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:23 JoeSchmoe wrote: ![]() From the stream. Hoping for a explanation.. =/ hahaha busted i love tl ![]() | ||
MrProphylactic
296 Posts
On December 01 2010 16:26 TheGiftedApe wrote: omg, now you guys want to sue him, that will sure help build e-sports in north america, now that sponser's will fear being sued by the players lmao. This guy messed up and did a horrible job organizing his tourney, He didnt commit murder. The OP even states that when brandon asked him if he ever got to play his game, that the OP DID NOT RESPOND! that right there is grounds for removal from the tourney. brandon should be scolded and warned, but anything beyond that is ridiculous. I think your sequence of events is a tad bit warped here . Um first of all he didn't respond the first day (R64) and was advanced in the field regardless as his opponent did not show . The problem with the OP happened the following day AFTER he was advanced through the brackets into the Round of 32 . So let me get this straight , I am still painfully attempting to follow your thought process . From what I can gather your point is ; " he could have been booted the day before , therefor he is justified in mistreating him the following day ." Please clarify , becuase this makes absolutely no sense to me . | ||
dopesauce
52 Posts
I am sure running a tournament is an enormous headache, but even watching this one being cast was an absolute travesty and there should be no reason as to why it is on featured team liquid. Its crazy how many top players were training all day for this tournament and how poorly it was ran from organization to the actual live stream of matches. | ||
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