EPTA little different "scared to play" problem - Page 3
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
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Yaahh
Germany151 Posts
On November 09 2010 23:45 Sotamursu wrote: Funnily enough, winning games in a row actually makes me want to play less. Losing makes me wonder about what led to me losing. Although losing streaks can be quite demoralizing. Im kind of already at this point. Even though i hate losing it motivates me little more then winning. Just have to figure out a way to enjoy both winning and losing while beeing satisfied with my results  | ||
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On November 09 2010 22:52 drewbie.root wrote: stats mean nothing, you should just go mess around and play offrace or try new strategies a bunch of games in a row and ruin your stats so that you just don't care about them anymore, then after that it will be 100x easier to mass game 8). I have had the same problem too, because in ICCup 2v2 I was a stats-whore, but in SC2 it really only hurts your improvement if you care about your ladder record. x2. While I didn't go out and ruin my stats on purpose after a number of games I just accepted the fact that in order to improve I would need to take my lumps along the way. My win % is hovering around 58% and some days I go on win streaks, others I can lose 10+ games straight. I was initially pissed at myself seeing my ratio drop substantially (was at 87% at one point), but if you take the stats as an indication of your "progress", it becomes far easier to accept those losses and review your losses with more honesty. The only people that will harp on win % are those on the bnet forums, and tbh who really cares what they think? I've never had someone in the GO4SC2 tourneys look up my stats and say "wow your win ratio sucks compared to mine" because to 99% of the SC2 community it simply doesn't matter . If it increases I know I'm going to get pushed up a division (same as when I got pushed to Diamond over a month ago) which means I am progressing, at that point it will inevitably drop as I play increasingly skilled players, and if it hovers at a point that means I haev some work to do to improve.Long winded...my bad. | ||
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atrocity3010
70 Posts
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
Are you seriously asking this question? I'd love to be able to win 90% of my games in any game, even if it was rock-paper-scissors or minesweeper. I tried playing 5 or 6 FFA games and after 3 or 4 of being matched with Bronze/Silver and face smashing them, it became incredibly boring and I felt guilty hitting that Find Match button since Blizzard doesn't match FFAs according to league. I get more satisfaction out of a win streak versus those even skilled with myself in 1v1 where I have to play/think for the win as opposed to just steam rolling whoever was in front of me as was the case with FFA . | ||
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Innsmouth-Zerg
Austria137 Posts
The SC2 matching system is not going to to try and 50% your ass. All it does is matching you against "equally" strong opponents. The 50% is a unavoidable side product of that. (avoidable only if you are on the very top of the player base) | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
Anthony J. D'Angelo No idea who that guy is but the quote itself is perfect. Also how on earth did you get to being good at 3rd strike without losing a few matches, if you aren't willing to learn something (and learning requires you to make mistakes sometimes) then you probably shouldn't even bother. | ||
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Mentos
United Kingdom203 Posts
The same applies to playing for stats, this is not counter-strike for christ's sake, _you learn only by losing_, how hard can it be people? | ||
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atrocity3010
70 Posts
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junemermaid
United States981 Posts
On November 09 2010 21:55 Yaahh wrote: Hey guys. I know there are alot of threads about this topic but as you already noticed in the headline my problem is little different then the standart ones. So let me explain. About 8 years ago i startet playing Street Fighter 3rd Strike (Beat´em Up) on a competetive level. I first was some kind of a star in the community because i was so young, new to the community and beeing able to handle the top players far better then others who were already in the community for years. A little more then 1 year later i was already the best player in Germany and 2 years later top 5 in europe. I was kind of unbeatable in Germany and just losed about 1 or 2 games out of more then 50. Had won upcomings tournaments in Germany with ease, got mad probs from the best players of France and GB and placed 4th in the European Qualification for SuperBattleOpera (hardest tournament which was placed in Japan). So i was always kind of on the top. Here it is were my problem starts. Because i was always on top and just losed less then 10% of my games i have problems to keep my motivation for SC2. Im not used to the fact that u WILL lose about 40% - 50% of your games in SC2. I keep trying to think about the fact that even the pros just have about 60% - 65% on average but that doesnt help me either. I tried to just play without thinking about lose or win which just worked for the moments i play. But the moment i would see my stats i cant find myself to be satisfied with less then about 70% win ratio (which is just not possible at higher levels). And sorry for any grammer mistake. Edit: Sorry if it sounds like im narcissistic or bigheaded. Im NOT. I took this example just to get u to understand my point. Realize you, like everyone else except the pros at GSL, suck at the game. Then and only then will you be able to play ladder games and not worry about your stats. To only be satisfied with a greater than 70% win rate reflects on how you perceive yourself and skill level at the game. You have to humble yourself and realize you aren't as competitive in SC2 as you were in SF. | ||
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Levistus
1134 Posts
Dude if you have what it takes to be among the best and can get ladies or money from it, then do it. As for me I have anxiety and panic disorder so I'm fucked for life. lol | ||
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Redunzl
862 Posts
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MerciLess
213 Posts
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Neivler
Norway911 Posts
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resilve
United Kingdom678 Posts
At the end of the day, you just need to master this. The best way to do that is by: 1) Ignoring your stats 2) Sabotaging them beyond salvation 3) Realizing that it is normal to be sub 60% win 4) Realizing nobody cares about you. | ||
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Mentos
United Kingdom203 Posts
This isn't true at all. While losing is an inevitable fact, you learn how to improve in the games you win as well. Edit: To expand on that, if you aren't always asking yourself how you could have improved, you're getting complacent with winning. Whether you win or lose, the game is still basically the same - you make mistakes of some type. If you can't figure out what they are, that's where watching replays comes in. now you're just nitpicking and I don't appreciate that. Of course that you might notice a thing or two to improve on in a won game, but those are minor tweaks, things that you really need to work on are much more apparent in the games you lose, because in the end they lead to your defeat. If you employ a tactic and win 10 games using it, you'll never stop and think that something might be wrong with that tactic, but if that 11th player comes along and beats your tactic, its only then that you might notice that something is wrong with it, dont you agree? | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
it aint everything, just make sure your ready for games that matter, and disregard ladder/custom games | ||
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oZii
United States1198 Posts
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251
United States1401 Posts
On November 10 2010 00:27 resilve wrote: This has always been a big problem for me too, I love playing RTS and FPS games, but I am such a competitive person that I struggle with loosing. Sometimes I feel that I would rather not play than play and risk loosing. At the end of the day, you just need to master this. The best way to do that is by: 1) Ignoring your stats 2) Sabotaging them beyond salvation 3) Realizing that it is normal to be sub 60% win 4) Realizing nobody cares about you. that's actually pretty solid advice | ||
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noD
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