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kontrol
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada32 Posts
November 08 2010 21:09 GMT
#21
Just would like to remind such application could contain key logger .
Try before you cry.
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
November 08 2010 21:15 GMT
#22
On November 08 2010 20:50 Malhavoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 20:32 loadme wrote:
in my opinion stuff like this kills the idea behind the game
yes everyone could use this support, but not everyone is using it.

that being said: for me everyone not using this is the real winner of the match.
especially if the player beats someone that uses overlayed build orders.. or remapped keys



Someone knowing the BO by his own will always be better than one using this. I'm planning to use this, but just as a mean to easily learn BOs and being able to play without it. I could just practice a LOT of build orders in solitaire, but this way I can practice AND play and the same time. Much better.

As for remapped keys, it's just unbelievable that Blizzard isn't allowing this on it's own. There's nothing inherently wrong in remapping to your likings.


You can always check out YABOT (Yet Another Build Order Tester). It's a custom map on battle.net and can display BOs up on the upper left corner and will check off the steps you completed as you play.
CreepGin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 22:44:35
November 08 2010 22:43 GMT
#23
Just got back from work, I'll answer all the question I missed so far in this post.

Can you map stuff to mouse button 4 and 5?
With that I mean 'Windows mouse button 4" and 5.


Right now RUK only does Keyboard remapping. The only thing that holds me back from doing the mouse mapping is the legitimacy issue.

Site is down?


Oops, was the crowd of sc2 players too big for my server to handle? Anyway, it's up and running when I checked few seconds ago.

Another concern: what if I'm doing 2v2 and I use the mic to talk with my friend? Is this application going to spam me with possibile BO/timers interpretations of what I'm saying to my friend? If it's so, it would be nice to have an option to activate its speech recognition feature just when I'm keeping a specific button pressed.. a sort of Push-to-talk-to-the-application.


I'm also trying to come up with a way to address this issue. I can either, like you said, add a press-to-talk key or use a special voice command to activate/deactivate the build order overlay. Still experimenting with this =)

that being said: for me everyone not using this is the real winner of the match.
especially if the player beats someone that uses overlayed build orders


I think most people will use the overlay to *practice* different build orders. Not sure if I gave any false impression that having the overlay = having an advantage in a ladder match.

I could just practice a LOT of build orders in solitaire, but this way I can practice AND play and the same time. Much better.


Same here =)

The version on the right is some kind of 3'rd party "magnifier" tool - but it was laggy, flashing and so on. However the idea is sound.


Sweet hehe.

From what I've read around, .NET uses by default, for the grammar, the installed OS's language. Unfortunately for me, italian speech recognition is not existent for the italian language. You should manually set it up to english by code; this should hopefully fix the problem.


I will address this ASAP. Sorry for the inconvenient; I should've thought about it before.

tested and works like advertised.
can be a bit slow to start up.
files manager pretty basic, would be nice to load games directly from there.
build order and reminder are pretty niche and probably wont get much use, but neat.
Suggest you just use "clear build".


Suggestions taken. And thanks for the build order, I will include more build orders in the next release.



make it simple but no simpler
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
November 09 2010 17:26 GMT
#24
On November 09 2010 06:09 kontrol wrote:
Just would like to remind such application could contain key logger .


Thats why I didn't load it up yet

It sounds like such a brilliant practice tool that I wanna use it, anyone had some experience with it yet?
Socke Fighting!!!!
MegaBUD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada179 Posts
November 09 2010 17:34 GMT
#25
Computer, Build more rax.

Computer, Train more marines.

Computer, More SCV NOW!

Computer, Tea, Earl Grey, Hot.
Keifru
Profile Joined November 2010
United States179 Posts
November 09 2010 22:27 GMT
#26
Is there any chance it could be somehow ported to work with Macs?

I was looking forward to help tightening up my build orders with some reminders while practicing.
Conflict is the gadfly of thought. It stirs us to observation and memory. It instigates us to invention. It shocks us out of sheeplike passivity, and sets us at noting and contriving. - John Dewey
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 09 2010 22:34 GMT
#27
On November 10 2010 02:34 MegaBUD wrote:
Computer, Build more rax.

Computer, Train more marines.

Computer, More SCV NOW!

Computer, Tea, Earl Grey, Hot.


Make it so.
whatsgrackalackin420
CreepGin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 00:10:08
November 10 2010 00:09 GMT
#28
On November 10 2010 02:26 resilve wrote:
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On November 09 2010 06:09 kontrol wrote:
Just would like to remind such application could contain key logger .


Thats why I didn't load it up yet

It sounds like such a brilliant practice tool that I wanna use it, anyone had some experience with it yet?


Scan it up. I didn't spend all the effort just to try to key log people. Thanks for the good words though. =D

Computer, Build more rax.

Computer, Train more marines.

Computer, More SCV NOW!

Computer, Tea, Earl Grey, Hot.


Even if my program can do that, you would get a real shitty APM that way =/

Is there any chance it could be somehow ported to work with Macs?

I was looking forward to help tightening up my build orders with some reminders while practicing.


I'm afraid that my skills in cocoa is not that great. I have made Mac desktop and mobile apps before, however keyboard hook and speech recognition in Mac OS are some of the things I'm not familiar with.

I will though take a look into this.
make it simple but no simpler
Cronium
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8 Posts
November 10 2010 00:38 GMT
#29
Doesn't seem to handle my Australian accent very well. Other than that good job
jgreen46
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada94 Posts
November 10 2010 02:56 GMT
#30
sometimes, i wish i didn't have a mac
Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
November 10 2010 04:08 GMT
#31
Doesn't work for me. It just gives me the 'blahblahblah is not working and has to close" message.
Almania
Profile Joined September 2010
145 Posts
November 10 2010 04:16 GMT
#32
I think it may violate the license agreement:

"You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience,"
styl3s
Profile Joined October 2010
United States36 Posts
November 10 2010 04:29 GMT
#33
On November 10 2010 13:16 Almania wrote:
I think it may violate the license agreement:

"You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience,"

Well it isn't a hack/bot/cheat and is it really modifying the experience? that is the million dollar question, although i think if it isn't legal it should, it's no different then having post-it notes on your monitor or beside you with build orders, this just makes it easier.

if anything blizzard should encourage something like this for new players and players that aren't that good.
CreepGin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 05:16:58
November 10 2010 05:14 GMT
#34
On November 10 2010 13:08 Tiegrr wrote:
Doesn't work for me. It just gives me the 'blahblahblah is not working and has to close" message.


If you have .Net Framework 4.0, the program should at least run. If you are having trouble with the reply manager, you may need to install the Windows SDK. Anyhow, instructions on getting those things are on the download page:

http://www.screborn.com/ruk/

On November 10 2010 13:29 styl3s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2010 13:16 Almania wrote:
I think it may violate the license agreement:

"You agree that you will not, under any circumstances: Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience,"

Well it isn't a hack/bot/cheat and is it really modifying the experience? that is the million dollar question, although i think if it isn't legal it should, it's no different then having post-it notes on your monitor or beside you with build orders, this just makes it easier.

if anything blizzard should encourage something like this for new players and players that aren't that good.


Yup that's one of the reason I made this - helping out new and casual players.

The other reason is to help out skilled players who spend a lot of time practicing different build orders or coming out with new builds.
make it simple but no simpler
LagT_T
Profile Joined March 2010
Argentina535 Posts
November 10 2010 05:58 GMT
#35
Computer, kill



Downloading! Thanks for helping the casual player
"The tactics... no. Amateurs discuss tactics, professional soldiers study logistics." - Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising
djengizz
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands42 Posts
November 10 2010 07:34 GMT
#36
On November 10 2010 13:08 Tiegrr wrote:
Doesn't work for me. It just gives me the 'blahblahblah is not working and has to close" message.

Same here.

On November 10 2010 14:14 CreepGin wrote:
If you have .Net Framework 4.0, the program should at least run. If you are having trouble with the reply manager, you may need to install the Windows SDK. Anyhow, instructions on getting those things are on the download page:

http://www.screborn.com/ruk/

I followed the instructions installing .Net Framework 4.0 and the Windows Headers and Librairies Component form the SDK but so far no luck,,,
nodq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany123 Posts
November 10 2010 11:03 GMT
#37
Even if its legit and not banable by blizzard, IMHO its cheating... and it sucks. Everyone who uses this should learn to play.
Spawn moooaaaar Overloooaaaarddzzzz!
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 10 2010 11:13 GMT
#38
port it to android =D
Tyler918273
Profile Joined September 2010
115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 14:31:54
November 10 2010 14:28 GMT
#39
On November 10 2010 20:03 nodq wrote:
Even if its legit and not banable by blizzard, IMHO its cheating... and it sucks. Everyone who uses this should learn to play.


I think thats the point. Its used to help people learn to play. I dont think you'll see it in tournaments or anywhere theres money on the line. Its just to remind you of what you are trying to do. And the key remapping, bliz said they were adding that in a future patch anyway. Its not like this is going to allow a scrub to hang with the pros. Its just a practice tool that can be used in real game scenarios. I'm probably not going to use it, but its a great idea to help people practice execution.

Edit: oh and why would you want it on android? Going to look down at your phone instead of the screen sc2 is already on? Btw I already have a bo app on my droid and it doesn't have anything good. Your better off writing your own in a notepad.
Mob
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria152 Posts
November 10 2010 15:13 GMT
#40
we do not want to play wow, do we?
this would certainly feel like it.
yadda!
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