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On December 02 2010 09:10 Brewed Tea wrote:
i had a strange idea, where people would practice games against one another but with fog of war turned off, that way they can see strategies of oppoents in play and how they are executed, this will teach them what to look for when scouting when fog of war is turned off. This way when they scout and they see something they can be like "okay, i see what he is doing, so im gonna be prepared" or something like that...i dont know lol
This actually seems like a really good idea. Would only take a few clicks in the map editor too.
I can imagine practice versions being made of popular maps. You could disable build order viewing, fog of war, have quick map restart (reset to 6 workers + CC), etc. Could be a useful tool for pros to use.
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I actually wanted to make a thread about this, but I don't know what forum to put it in and I'm not sure if it's important enough to warrant a new thread. So I'm posting it here...
About Unit Control Groups (as Protoss)
So I recently realised that the way I hotkey my units is not particularly efficient. I generally leave hotkeys 1-4 open for units and 5 or higher for buildings. At the moment I use:
1 for melee (ie: Zealots)
2 for other ranged units (Stalkers, Sentries, Immortals)
3 for any other special units I have (ie: Collossi or Templar or air)
4 used on rare occasions when I have a 4th type of unit, or if I need to temporarily bind some workers to a hotkey etc
But this setup has several problems:
1) When I 1a2a3a the Zealots tend to run ahead and fight outside the range of guardian shield, or engage before the rest of my army is in position. This is especially a problem when I have Charge.
2) Immortals can't attack air, so having them in the same group as Stalker/Sentry is problematic. For example, sometimes I want to shoot down Vikings or Corruptors that are attacking my Collossi, but I don't want to disturb the Immortals who are supposed to be attacking other units.
3) In most battles I want the Immortals attacking specific targets like Tanks or Collossi, but I don't want to move my whole ranged army out of position just to do that.
So I've been thinking about different ways to solve this. Really, I want to be able to control Immortals separately the same way that I can with Collossi, so if I move Immortals to control group 3 and Collossi to 4 then it achieves this purpose. But using 4 separate hotkeys for units seems a bit excessive, and increases the chance of mismicroing or leaving one group behind etc.
So my question for Protoss players is, how do you control your units efficiently? What is your hotkey setup and how effective have you found it?
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I don't know how many of you played WC3, but there was this site called demonreps.com where you could upload all of your replays. Basically it was your own personal online replay database. You could make it private so only you have access. Does anyone know if there's a site like this for SC2?
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Does anyone know any good Terran user streams (besides bratOK) ??
There are way too many streams of the evil Protoss and the scummy Zerg but haven't seen much of Terrans. I'm looking for people at least 2600+
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looking for some decent players to play some team matches with me and one of my friends...if interested please add either me or him: xPHANTOMx or grudge...thank you
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does anyone know if any GSL replays are floating around or if they're released at all?
would really like to study a few of the builds iv seen
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why do i only play on 2 player maps on the ladder?
why do i only face 1 basing on the ladder?
why do i only face 4gate, cannonrush, proxy gates in pvp?
why did my winrate drop in a single evening from 66% to 58%?
why do ppl bust an early expansion every time instead of playing the macro game?
why do i keep playing the same ppl on the ladder 3 times in a row? (started giving them freewins, because my cyber got blocked/scout probe surrounded/missplaced pylon)
why are ppl always playing the lame, easy win way instead of the fun way? (this applies to all games in general)
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Heya, I was wondering how to de-select units or buildings in a control group?
Sometimes i miss click the key , and group units with a command center or factory.
Thank you for your help
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Heya, I was wondering how to de-select units or buildings in a control group?
Ctrl + click and shift + click
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On December 04 2010 13:15 Lucius2 wrote:
why do i only play on 2 player maps on the ladder?
why do i only face 1 basing on the ladder?
why do i only face 4gate, cannonrush, proxy gates in pvp?
why did my winrate drop in a single evening from 66% to 58%?
why do ppl bust an early expansion every time instead of playing the macro game?
why do i keep playing the same ppl on the ladder 3 times in a row? (started giving them freewins, because my cyber got blocked/scout probe surrounded/missplaced pylon)
why are ppl always playing the lame, easy win way instead of the fun way? (this applies to all games in general)
Possibility you haven't thumbed down as many 2 player maps as possible, that would open up the variety a bit. However this is just incredibly random as what map is selected.
The rest of your questions, really can be answered by some people just prefer playing like that. Just make sure to scout early and often so you can be readily prepared.
For playing the same person multiple times in a row, Blizzard wants the matchmaking to go as quick as possible. So at the time of your queue you and that other person are the only one around that level currently searching.
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Anyone know how pros do the moving dropship-drop?
I thought I knew it, but then I saw FruitDealer do it too... except with two or three overlords at once (rewatching GSL1, for what it's worth).
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Do a lot of high diamond players seem to come off as passive egotistical people to anyone? O.o I don't know what the term is for it, but I hope you know what I mean.
I don't know if its just me, but it's been getting on my nerves. =_=
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On December 05 2010 02:36 Zaka wrote:
Anyone know how pros do the moving dropship-drop?
I thought I knew it, but then I saw FruitDealer do it too... except with two or three overlords at once (rewatching GSL1, for what it's worth).
Click drop then click on the dropship.
For example, let's say you have an overlord with 4 banelings. Right click somewhere to make it move to that location. While it's moving, press D (drop hotkey) and then click on the overlord. The overlord will start dropping the banelings while still moving to the location.
It's pretty much the same if you have three overlords. Just select all of them, right click somewhere to make them move, press D, then click on every overlord.
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On December 05 2010 03:03 Snaiil wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 02:36 Zaka wrote:
Anyone know how pros do the moving dropship-drop?
I thought I knew it, but then I saw FruitDealer do it too... except with two or three overlords at once (rewatching GSL1, for what it's worth). Click drop then click on the dropship. For example, let's say you have an overlord with 4 banelings. Right click somewhere to make it move to that location. While it's moving, press D (drop hotkey) and then click on the overlord. The overlord will start dropping the banelings while still moving to the location. It's pretty much the same if you have three overlords. Just select all of them, right click somewhere to make them move, press D, then click on every overlord.
Oh thanks, I just tried it out. Bloody awesome!
I was trying to do it by either move + (shift+D) or clicking the portraits as the dropship moved. Which either didn't work or was just flat out inefficient.
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LF another on sea to do the co-op achievements; pm me if interested....
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