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On October 29 2010 20:53 Jibba wrote:There's a difference between being a dick online and doing it to a real life friend. This is a pretty unfortunate situation. ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
i totally agree
i know so many people who are so fucking nice online ... then i met them in RL fuckin a.......
imo naniwa ist jsut bm and not professional. i feel really sorry for cloud
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On October 29 2010 21:08 MoRs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2010 20:53 Jibba wrote:There's a difference between being a dick online and doing it to a real life friend. This is a pretty unfortunate situation. ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) i totally agree i know so many people who are so fucking nice online ... then i met them in RL fuckin a....... imo naniwa ist jsut bm and not professional. i feel really sorry for cloud
normally it's the other way around... people act all toughguy online and when you meet them face face their totally different perons :D
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I'm feeling sad for Cloud and hope he can enjoy his time in germany anyway. His play in the EPS has become a lot more solid in the past few weeks. :-)
And yeah I'm wondering if Naniwa will ever again be able to join a team...
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MYM now kicked out Naniwa from the team after this incident!
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While its a shitty move to just leave and not look back or even say goodbye I dont think one should hold it against him.
First he is thrown out of ESL then he is kicked off his team, and to top it all off the majority of the SC2 community has made it clear that they dont like him. When shit like that happens you just want to get away with no time for goodbyes. His friends must understand this, clean for him and wait for things to cool off.
While Naniwa is not by any means innocent and really had it comming his friends gotta stand up for him even if he shows no grattitude.
I personally dont like Naniwa at all but I think its time for a helping hand rather then kicking him when he is down.
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not suprising at all, regarding his clan history. Got kicked from teams multiple times due to bm, lack of team spirit or professionality in warcraft 3, i at least recall 2 times mTw and one serious, and back then read about few more incidents. And when you acknowledge his behaviour in broadcasted games when he lost (sometimes even when he won), it seems that he's not improving his attitude. this situation just rounds up the picture. sad that this kind of people (not nani in particular, same problem with other players in pro-leagues all over the different games) deny motivated players to participate in eps or equivalent.
btw, i can't understand how people even think of blaming a successive and experienced esports organization hosting a league for professionals where you can win money in a video game (how much of you get paid for playing football/basketball/whatever sundays on amateur level?) for the fact that half of the players participating heap penalty points because of not obeying simple rules...
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On October 29 2010 21:56 Chibalicious wrote: While its a shitty move to just leave and not look back or even say goodbye I dont think one should hold it against him.
First he is thrown out of ESL then he is kicked off his team, and to top it all off the majority of the SC2 community has made it clear that they dont like him. When shit like that happens you just want to get away with no time for goodbyes. His friends must understand this, clean for him and wait for things to cool off.
While Naniwa is not by any means innocent and really had it comming his friends gotta stand up for him even if he shows no grattitude.
I personally dont like Naniwa at all but I think its time for a helping hand rather then kicking him when he is down.
I'd have to fully agree with you, but at the same time - he's a complete tool. All of his problems he has at the moment are a DIRECT repercussion of his own actions and has no one to blame but himself.
He made a LOT of wrong choices and now he is paying for them, maybe he'll see how much of an immature dick he has been all this time and finally grow up a bit.
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Its obvious its in his blood to be a douche. I know people IRL who are acting just like him. Spoilt shits who expects to get everything served on a platter. No sens of reality. Total lack of empathy.
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Made me so happy when i heard it :D
At IEM someone asked Naniwa for a photo/autograph and he said "do your pic and fuck off". I think he is such a strange guy and his kick is well deserved.
Good luck to cloud tho. He might make it to the finals now!
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That's already been posted 3 pages ago.
Twice.
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Hope he learns from his ways and finds a new team soon. No one is beyond redemption.
Although, some of the ESL rules are a bit strict, IMO. Particularly regarding the caster drama/replay upload debacle.
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If i read all this stuff here i rly think it was best to kick him even though esl rules suck alot
he must be very pissed now.....
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Hell of a lineup my MYM now huh
Cloud Artosis
lol.
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I did not know anything about him before reading this thread. But after going through all 18 pages ... all I can say is 'good riddance.'
Not only is he a dick to other pro gamers, but he also treats his fans like shit?
Christ, the scene doesn't need him.
Good on the organisations for kicking him out. I hope he either disappears from SC2 progaming entirely, or writes a sincere apology and vows to change his ways absolutely - then gets back in the scene.
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Lol. I wonder what team he'll join next.
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Its bad for him that he get kicked out of EPS and its a shame that such a good players suffers from his behaviour. I have no respect towards him as person, because he acts like a dick and is full of himself.
As I said its a shame that a good player has no team and is out of a league now, but its all his own fault. He was disrespectful towards GoOdy and lots of other players in his statements and when he got a beating by GoOdy he came up with excuses.
GL in the future, don't blame others for calling you a prick or douchebag, because thats just what you are. As much as you can be NICE if you like someone or in real life (I don't know) but most of the time you are not. Sorry Johan.
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Naniwa
NaNi's statement I am very excited about joining a team that has such a long history in the scene and is also very known for treating their players well. I hope with my whole heart that this will be my final stop. I will strive to do my best for my fans, in terms of playing well and in terms of being on my best behavior.
Ohsnap
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On October 29 2010 18:39 iG.ClouD wrote: He just leaved this place without cleaning anything he was supposed to clean or saying goodbye. I don't really know what to think, we even had a nice time together and were friendly to each other.
Naniwa is absolutly childish and I bet he is the only child in his family. The "chapter Naniwa" should be closed.
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