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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
October 28 2010 23:54 GMT
#301
On October 29 2010 08:51 schisch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2010 08:37 FliedLice wrote:
so cloud's alone now?

artosis still in mym with cloud


i mean alone in germany
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
October 28 2010 23:56 GMT
#302
what a clown. please stop talking about this guy.
reprise
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada316 Posts
October 29 2010 00:25 GMT
#303
Not surprising... Giant turd without the skill to compensate proportionally.
for graphs of passion, and charts of stars
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 00:30:59
October 29 2010 00:30 GMT
#304
On October 29 2010 08:37 FliedLice wrote:
so cloud's alone now?

Yes, and in a certain way that's the most ridiculous (or just sad) fact: Cloud obviously had no problem sticking to the rules, he's got just 5 minor penalty points right now. Cloud and Naniwa were MYM team mates and lived together, but just one of them was able to follow simple rules?

There's no argument to put the blame on german EPS. Other foreigners like cloud or demuslim (and the rest of the players anyway) do just fine and some minor penalty points don't matter at all. That was just a gigantic fail.
Mutation complete.
TeamSoliduss
Profile Joined October 2010
41 Posts
October 29 2010 00:54 GMT
#305
On October 28 2010 23:54 SonicTitan wrote:
You think those dudes from Counterstrike are aggressive? You haven't seen ANYTHING until you've played an IRE game. And jeeeeesus these guys could be assholes. And not just in the normal IdrA fashion either. I mean they could just get plain sick. They'd follow you around on forums and shit all over you AFTER they steamrolled you in the arena. And for whatever reason, these guys had a good number of fans and friends, with the primary excuse for their absolute shit behavior being "Oh man, this guy is FUNNY THOUGH, you take him too seriously EL OH EL."


Try HoN or Dota, tho most of the competitive assholes moved to HoN leaving Dota to koreans :-O

Some even e-mailed me (!) with flames after getting locked on the forums lol
I cannot be controlled - Irenicus
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
October 29 2010 03:04 GMT
#306
Naniwa is a total screw up.
Screwed up his education, his relationship with his parents and now his gaming career.
Nothing works out for this guy.
TeamSoliduss
Profile Joined October 2010
41 Posts
October 29 2010 04:19 GMT
#307
On October 29 2010 12:04 Fantistic wrote:
Screwed up his education, his relationship with his parents and now his gaming career.


What kind of amorphous slave wouldn't screw the first two things ?

I cannot be controlled - Irenicus
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 29 2010 05:12 GMT
#308
On October 28 2010 02:29 ChickenLips wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 02:26 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On October 27 2010 23:27 SmoKim wrote:
a perfect example of Nani's BM attitude in the qxc thread, just read through the pages -,-'

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131904


Even worse is he dodged the shit out of the match I set him up vs. Sheth. That thread also contains some of the best Kiwikaki one liners on TL! lol


That is indeed quite baller

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2010 01:51 KiWiKaKi wrote:
Your ego is too high in relation to the number of base you use


Show nested quote +
On June 21 2010 00:21 KiWiKaKi wrote:
1baseiwa



1baseiwa made me laugh far more than it should have.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
October 29 2010 07:32 GMT
#309
On October 28 2010 18:25 zere wrote:
No, I don't know it, but I assume the admins are getting paid, and paid well.


Wait,what, paid? Ahahahahahahajahahahahahah... Maybe a few core admins, yeah, who work full time. 99% of the admins for the 5747289229 leagues the esl runs are doing it out of passion only, mind you. Seriously.....
NoiR
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
October 29 2010 07:41 GMT
#310
Somehow I think he did it on purpose to get out of his contract.
Luvz
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 07:51:47
October 29 2010 07:49 GMT
#311
On October 27 2010 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 22 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              27 2010 22      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:14 Mereel wrote:
he sucks anyway.....2base collosi every game

sounds like any protoss who rolls me :p

this is absolutely hilarious but i think eps system is kinda crappy with all match statements and so on, they dont even have admins to help around whenever i need help so i gotten some warnings aswell even when im trying my best to follow their rules :/


i pulled myself from EAS for the same reason, Terrible terrible system with close to no help from admins, i think it took them 4 weeks to reply to my Support tickets
Norway ~ Home of the brave <3
~Escalus~
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany26 Posts
October 29 2010 07:52 GMT
#312
Who wants to play on a professional level and earn money by doing so, consequently needs to act professionally.
Compare this to a job in another business and the respective disqualification becomes fully comprehensible.
Tercotta
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada402 Posts
October 29 2010 09:01 GMT
#313
On October 29 2010 16:41 TBO wrote:
Somehow I think he did it on purpose to get out of his contract.

Interesting idea. Maybe he got a better offer. Korea?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 29 2010 09:04 GMT
#314
Somehow I doubt it.
Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
October 29 2010 09:15 GMT
#315
I think a team can actually benefit from having a "bad boy" on the team. There are always people who love him for that behavior and he takes the heat of the other players so they can prepare themselves in peace.

However if his behaviour is starting to hurt the reputation of the sponsor you have to do something.
Talk with the player first and if that isn't resulting in anything you have to take other actions where removing him is the last option if you see no other resolution.

I'm guessing talks between MYM management and Naniwa didn't bring the disired solution to their problems and the reasons given to Naniwa were grave misconduct and refusal to work (the not showing up for his match). Any other reason would (as far as I know) result in a contract breach from MYM (assuming the contracts in teams like this resemble those in normal businesses) for which Naniwa can sue or in MYM having to pay of the remaining contrect of Naniwa.
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 09:22:51
October 29 2010 09:21 GMT
#316
On October 28 2010 23:18 lazyfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 20:33 sleepingdog wrote:
ok, I just want to comment on the whole "german doesn't like foreigners"-issue

as darkforce has completely correctly stated, the EPS is NOT an international thing; you can argue if it would be good if EPS would "advance", open itself to be more international, etc....but all of this has basicly nothing to do with all of the aforementioned arguments

if foreigners move to germany to participate in EPS...why on earth should esl-admins be responsible for "translating" all the necessary stuff? is it so much to ask if these foreingers ask...well...friends that actually speak german to help them? I think you here at TL should give esl-admins a break on this one; if I move to the united states to participate in an US league, why the hell should I expect that US ppl tell me in german how to organize my own stuff? yeah, yeah, it's the old "everybody must be able to talk english", but here it's something different because EPS never was INTENDED to be an international league; therefore nobody has the "right" to demand guidance from esl-admins if he has problems due to the language-barrier; even if esl-admins would refuse any help at all on this one (which I'm sure isn't the case)....there are really no ground to blame them for this; tbh they have enough work to do as it is

furthermore, if somebody intentionally decides to participate in this (german) league, and actually moves to germany just because of it, you could expect from him to organize his stuff properly; therefore to all those of you who argue that esl is overly complicated with many important stuff being available just in german....well.....yeah, doesn't this kinda makes sense in a german league?

also complaining about german fans not rooting for foreingers; seriously? what's wrong with that all of a sudden? it's the same with every "real"sports, you cheer for your team even if they suck terribad....cmon now

Why EPS didn't make a rule state that german citizen only? Clearly that they don't want any foreigner in their league.


wow this is just... I don't even know what to say.

The ESL is fine with foreigners attending the german EPS. The only thing they require foreigners (and germans alike) to do is to get their shit together. You cannot expect the ESL to translate everything for the GERMAN EPS because a foreigner wants to participate. It's really not that hard anyway. Cloud obviously had no problems understanding the rules. Also, naniwa most likely had people at MYM that could've helped him.
This is anything but the ESL's fault.

Sure, their system of penalty points is weird and probably a little too strict, but the players participating in the EPS are supposed to be professionals and act accordingly. You don't want to know what professionals in real sports have to go through.

It is sad that a player as skilled as naniwa has been kicked out of the league, but it was totally deserved.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-29 09:25:45
October 29 2010 09:24 GMT
#317
On October 29 2010 18:21 Mandalor wrote:
Afaik Naniwa was living with naruto who is a native speaker of german and I think his english is quite good as well. Also, he most likely had people at MYM that could've helped him.
This is anything but the ESL's fault..


DeMusliM is the one living at narutos place (they're both mtw players)

naniwa lived/lives together with cloud (since they are/were on MYMs sc2 team)...
but even cloud managed to stay at 5minor pps

he has even less PPs than naruto i think :D
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
October 29 2010 09:27 GMT
#318
yeah I ninja edited that part out because I wasn't too sure about that. Instead, I mentioned cloud
kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1440 Posts
October 29 2010 09:28 GMT
#319
its karma!
mada mada dane
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 29 2010 09:39 GMT
#320
He just leaved this place without cleaning anything he was supposed to clean or saying goodbye. I don't really know what to think, we even had a nice time together and were friendly to each other.
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