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oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
October 28 2010 15:05 GMT
#281
Why are people arguing about this? The simple fact is that the rules were clearly stated up front regardless of whether or not some of you think they are 'stupid'. He CHOSE to move there and play for them contigent on him following those rules. He DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES. Therefore there were consequences.

It doesn't matter whether or not he is/was BM. He did not follow SIMPLE workplace rules and got kicked out because of it.
raidon
Profile Joined September 2010
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 15:45:50
October 28 2010 15:07 GMT
#282
On October 28 2010 23:54 SonicTitan wrote:
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On October 28 2010 00:52 frequency wrote:
Nani is one of the funniest people I've ever spoken to on vent. You all take him too seriously sometimes.


May be a mistake posting before reading the whole thread, but I have to say something here: What the hell is it with this excuse for general douchebaggery?

Let me tell you a story: I spent seven years playing a text-based MUD called Aetolia. Believe it or not, this MUD, with its less-than-a-thousand-player-strong base, had one of the most hardcore, complex pvp combat systems you will ever see. And that sort of system draws hyper competitive players. You think those dudes from Counterstrike are aggressive? You haven't seen ANYTHING until you've played an IRE game. And jeeeeesus these guys could be assholes. And not just in the normal IdrA fashion either. I mean they could just get plain sick. They'd follow you around on forums and shit all over you AFTER they steamrolled you in the arena. And for whatever reason, these guys had a good number of fans and friends, with the primary excuse for their absolute shit behavior being "Oh man, this guy is FUNNY THOUGH, you take him too seriously EL OH EL."

No. The problem is a lot of people don't take this kind of horseshit seriously enough. Did you ever think that being an asshole may be a CHARACTER FLAW and not something to wear on your shirt? The fact that NaNiwa was an internationally recognized professional player just makes matters worse. Good riddance.


i absolutely agree with you.

furthermore he accumulated x points and got banned out of german EPS. whats the deal?
there are rules - follow them! if not, don't play in the EPS or try to change the rules before u sign them.
if you drive too fast.. one time - ok.
if you drive too fast, like 15 times - you got banned out of traffic.
and here's a nice example of nani's manner for those who didn't read the beginning of the thread:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131904


just read the first few pages..
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
October 28 2010 15:14 GMT
#283
NaNiwa is mass bad manner anyways, didnt he drop out of school to play wc3? get ostracized for being a douche bag, and it still seems like he hasnt found a decent job, or helped society at all since he left the wc3 scene. He is the type of face that is bad for esports, im happy he is out of the most important tournament in foreign sc2.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
October 28 2010 15:26 GMT
#284
To bad he got kicked out, I guess (yeah it is what you are thinking)
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timmeh
Profile Joined September 2009
Austria177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 15:27:02
October 28 2010 15:26 GMT
#285
Sad that he moved to Germany and got kicked for silly rules?

More like sad that he moved there to compete just to not take it seriously. And sad fail to comply to rules and fail to complete a simple task such as uploading replays upon completing a match.
;o
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
October 28 2010 15:44 GMT
#286
How stupid and unprofessional you should be to get so much penalty points...
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Jarmam
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark140 Posts
October 28 2010 16:02 GMT
#287
On October 27 2010 22:44 zoltanium wrote:
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On October 27 2010 22:38 MorroW wrote:
On October 27 2010 22:35 turbopasca1 wrote:
no wonder he is so bad educated , cant forget one of those zotac matches where i had to wait to play with him for 1 hour and talking to me like i owe him. And after i lost him (im not a pro and etc.) , he said "GG, wasted 10 minutes of my life on you"
WOW , just WOW.

hahaha naniwa is more awesome than idra imo :D

How can he be awesome. Thats incredibly rude.


Because watching people writing copypaste-like waste of keystrokes-stuff is dull and boring, and watching people going 100% absolutely batshit crazy-berserk is fun and awesome? Either cuz they're trolling halfheartedly (and fishing for easy prey that will take the bait) or because they're just like that. Both have potential to be hilarious by themselves or in a greater context.

Isnt there like a "Idra And Friends: Greatest SC-Rabble Of All Time" thread or website made specifically for this purpose? Such a thing could in time attract more people than Facebook. Alternative promotion for the E-Sports scene.
"Freedom for Colossus" - White-Ra
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
October 28 2010 16:05 GMT
#288
On October 28 2010 23:18 lazyfeet wrote:
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On October 28 2010 20:33 sleepingdog wrote:
ok, I just want to comment on the whole "german doesn't like foreigners"-issue

as darkforce has completely correctly stated, the EPS is NOT an international thing; you can argue if it would be good if EPS would "advance", open itself to be more international, etc....but all of this has basicly nothing to do with all of the aforementioned arguments

if foreigners move to germany to participate in EPS...why on earth should esl-admins be responsible for "translating" all the necessary stuff? is it so much to ask if these foreingers ask...well...friends that actually speak german to help them? I think you here at TL should give esl-admins a break on this one; if I move to the united states to participate in an US league, why the hell should I expect that US ppl tell me in german how to organize my own stuff? yeah, yeah, it's the old "everybody must be able to talk english", but here it's something different because EPS never was INTENDED to be an international league; therefore nobody has the "right" to demand guidance from esl-admins if he has problems due to the language-barrier; even if esl-admins would refuse any help at all on this one (which I'm sure isn't the case)....there are really no ground to blame them for this; tbh they have enough work to do as it is

furthermore, if somebody intentionally decides to participate in this (german) league, and actually moves to germany just because of it, you could expect from him to organize his stuff properly; therefore to all those of you who argue that esl is overly complicated with many important stuff being available just in german....well.....yeah, doesn't this kinda makes sense in a german league?

also complaining about german fans not rooting for foreingers; seriously? what's wrong with that all of a sudden? it's the same with every "real"sports, you cheer for your team even if they suck terribad....cmon now

Why EPS didn't make a rule state that german citizen only? Clearly that they don't want any foreigner in their league.


I don't think that the ESL intended the EPS Germany to be a league you go abroad for. I believe they have no German citizenship rule because they do not want to exclude any players (mostly children) that grow up in Germany and speak German but have no German citizenship (yet). That would be pretty stupid as players should not be restrained to follow their hobby because of their nationality. So it makes sense that they require you to live in Germany rather than require you to have a German citizenship.
Comrade
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden102 Posts
October 28 2010 16:12 GMT
#289
Well nani always came across as a douche in my opinion. Guess he had it coming.
Fighting capitalist macro everywhere
johlar
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden165 Posts
October 28 2010 19:32 GMT
#290
He is a douche, but he aint bad. A fine villain.

The league definately doesnt get any better by banning him, but rules are ment to be followed
hagon
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom556 Posts
October 28 2010 19:41 GMT
#291
On October 29 2010 00:05 oxxo wrote:
Why are people arguing about this?


Its the internet man...but also there about 5-6 issues being argued about now, half the people replying dont know which one the guy their replying to is talking about. Basically the thread is in about the same state as SanZenith's build vs. Check on Delta Quadrant about 5 minutes in.
dronescout
Profile Joined March 2010
Iceland246 Posts
October 28 2010 21:57 GMT
#292
I am not very surprised this is happened, I mean he blamed alot of losses on lag and is very rude overall.

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I will destroy everyone in 2017
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
October 28 2010 22:54 GMT
#293
What a fool.
Dekker
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany169 Posts
October 28 2010 23:30 GMT
#294
MYM decided to drop him btw. Good decision imho.

Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 23:31:44
October 28 2010 23:30 GMT
#295
Further to this news, it appears Naniwa has just been kicked out of MyM.

http://www.mymym.com/en/news/19377.html

Edit:Hah! Beaten to the scoop!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 23:36:02
October 28 2010 23:35 GMT
#296
good thing mym actually did something for once. it's a two-man team now with artosis and cloud.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
October 28 2010 23:37 GMT
#297
so cloud's alone now?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 28 2010 23:44 GMT
#298
Good call by MYM imo. The guy is not only unmarketable, but apparently also unable to follow rules.
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schisch
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany123 Posts
October 28 2010 23:51 GMT
#299
On October 29 2010 08:37 FliedLice wrote:
so cloud's alone now?

artosis still in mym with cloud
Cade)Flayer
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom279 Posts
October 28 2010 23:53 GMT
#300
30 PP is a whole lot to accumulate so it's not like Naniwa didn't have ample warning to get his behaviour together. The rules are fair as well, to ensure the fans have the games to watch and some statements from the players. If you want to just play on ladder and have no-one bother you then do that, don't join a pro gaming league. It's simple.
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