EPTTLO Switches to Zerg - Page 30
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osten
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FuryX
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Mentor
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purecarnagge
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Although I must admit I'm tired of zergs whom don't go roach warren getting wtf pwnd because of timing attacks etc etc. From what I've seen if you don't go roach warren or banelingz nest before tanks could be out, you are dead 70% of the time. Hopefully TLO can show us some creative zergness. | ||
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tackklee
United States270 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 25 2010 20:45 FuryX wrote: Y is TLO the master of infestors? damn i never got a chance to steal that title away before he switched back. | ||
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malphigian
United States68 Posts
On October 25 2010 23:04 Antisocialmunky wrote: Can you random in the GSL? Pretty sure you can, I remember reading in the qualifier threads for GSL 2 that garimto was playing random. I think the rule is that they must stay random if they start random. | ||
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ch4ppi
Germany802 Posts
Nice switch but he's playing craptastic right now. He has just qualified the second time to GSL which is on its own a great achievment...lol Guys make up your mind, TLO is still brilliant, but he is in another ambiente in Korea, where everyone is a bit more brilliant  .TLO was all the time before GSL not a Terran only user, if he was allowed he played ZvT instead of TvT. @PrinceXizor I really love ure play, but its gettin kinda odd to see u play mouse only without hotkeys, might be okay for a month but its kinda dumb to stay like this and never use your full potential. | ||
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isbunk
Sweden1017 Posts
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Seam
United States1093 Posts
On October 25 2010 23:14 malphigian wrote: Pretty sure you can, I remember reading in the qualifier threads for GSL 2 that garimto was playing random. I think the rule is that they must stay random if they start random. They can't. | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
You can play random in GSL if you choose so. | ||
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indiehjaerta
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Oddysay
Canada597 Posts
On October 25 2010 14:44 shynee wrote: I'm not surprised that TLO switched. But I think blizzard will make another balance change, favoring Terran. So even tho I understand that TLO's favorite units are not effective since the patch, I believe these units will be effective soon enough. Boxer emailed David Kim regarding the latest patch and how it has essentially broken traditional Terran gameplay. Here is what Slayer_Boxer and fruitseller said during Blizzcon: Q: How do you view the recent patches? Boxer: I'm very weird, in every patch it's the units I love to use that are nerfed. Before, I liked to use tanks, and now they are nerfed. I also liked 3rax, but that strategy was nerfed. More unsettling is that not only was Terran nerfed, Zerg was buffed. I spent two hours writing a letter to David Kim (dayvie). Every time, the new patches are hard to adjust to, so I hope in the future the changes aren't cataclysmic. Fruitdealer: In terms of Zerg, aside from defense, right now playing is more comfortable due to less early problems. But it seems that the special aspects of SC2 have been decreasing. Even though I'm doing well, other players might consider it bad. Q: Have you (Fruitdealer) written to Blizzard before? Fruitdealer: I haven't, but Check and David Kim (dayvie) are familiar with each other. I saw Check send a lot of emails to David Kim. It's possible he's part of the reason Zerg has been getting buffs. Q: And you, Boxer? Boxer: Every time a certain Zerg sends emails to Blizzard, it's always reps in which they lose. I think we Terrans should unite as well and send some losing reps. hahaha this best reply in the whole topic here and no one reply , they talk about barby 2 page from this one , way to dont be honest when someone like boxer and fruitseller talk like that ! BOXER SAY SO ?! we should unite and help buff terran too ! what happen exactly ? good race representative take time to show the game imbalance for their race , they can also play bad on purpose for show something ingame , you think these guy are stupid and cant bring the game to where they want ? using the unit they want ? . the same way we need a army for protect the human race federation , zerg are curently the best at this mind game. zerg buff prove that . when one zerg soldier die in the battlefront , before the game end or event before the game he will try to show how overpowered the other race are , save the replay and send it to blizzard . minion after make topic over the whole internet , they work under the overmind... dont trust them ! protoss got ????? but he dont whine alot and protoss are pretty much staying the same. ( put idra playing toss , and im sure toss zealot would be flying and shooting yamato canon now , that a joke of course , but that so people get the point ) in some way , event if you did not know before the most angry vocal pro gamer help you and your race at the game , you hate someone who buff ur unit ? . now terran need to unite , when you win the game and the other guy ask : WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE VS THAT ? ( what he mean : your X unit are overpowered and they are nothing i could have done ) so find something cool to say , or say something he did not do, never never say : i dont know . some exemple : terran : you have upgraded attack and armor the whole game.. he did not , if he loss and say what i should have done vs that ?! : tell him : you need to upgrade , closed . and no matter the race that alway good to say : you need to exp more when terran loss vs colosus you reply : make viking ( both good player know that the protoss dont make only colosus and that before he die he killed for 2000++ worth of money and got stalker for kill the viking and he can micro / pull back the colosus... but say it anyway , make more viking !!! ) understand the mind game terran need to play too for win ? when zerg loss z v p because of colosus you reply.....i seriously dont know this one lol , most protoss dont know either ( but dont tell anyone protoss players , find something he did wrong or tell him to exp more! ) . User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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StarSense
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SkCom
Canada229 Posts
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
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Phrencys
Canada270 Posts
On October 25 2010 18:13 Mithhaike wrote: Terrans aren't playing other races. their playing against time. If they cannot end the game fast and it gets to endgame,their at a severe disadvantage due to how the production of armies work.if i cant end the game now,im screwed. This is just false, and aggravated by the fact that Terrans are doing too much 1basing 3/1/1 all-in pushes saying "Gotta kill him before end-game or I'm dead". Good Terrans have started using the MULEs additional income to FE and slam several additional raxes, making T's macro that much smoother. OBVIOUSLY if you one-base (or even 2bases with 4-5 production buildings) and get crushed, you'll never be able to rebuild an army fast enough out of 4-5 buildings whereas the zerg you just assaulted has 3-4 hatches with queens going at it, which is the equivalent of 6-8 terran production facilities. T units are also ridiculously cost-effective, even at tier1. They don't have anything to envy from P and Z. In a 200 vs 200 supply fight, Terran will more often than not come way ahead over a zerg unless 1)the Terran has horrible unit composition or 2) the zerg is FruitDealer and is dropping banelings all over your face. | ||
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Choirdrunk
Canada131 Posts
On October 25 2010 18:05 Marb wrote: can anyone show me a replay of TLO going rax b4 depo? or going 5 rax reaper? Dont think he was known for doing those strats that were nerfed ... zerg being buffed on the other hand might make them more attractive just finished watching TLO vs Sen and i quite liked the 2nd game - not as one-sided as it could have been considering Sen has alot more practice as zerg. its also funny, when all terrans complain about being so weak in macro games, but never even consider making their 3rd command center into an orbital instead of a PF (well its OP so i have to make it, dont i? its what ppl do!). it might be harder to defend your 3rd that way but you would also have ... how would day9 say ... more stuff Gotta love these three post non-Terran players give advice to Terrans. "Oh, hey guys, have you maybe considered making unit X or building Y. I mean, I'm a gold level zerg which means I know way more about starcraft than any terran ever could." Do you really, REALLY think an oribital on a THIRD base is the issue? Forget the fact that our armies are immobile and we can't defend our expansions as readily as zerg (nydus + creep + production facility at every hatchery) or toss (pylons) and, if we have a third base, both players have units roaming the field separate from the main army. Just forget about how irrational that is. You really believe that terrans are like 600 minerals away from being on par late game? The reason you don't see the pros, or amateurs, doing it often is not because they didn't think of it Einstein. The reason a legend like Boxer takes the time to write about balance after this last patch and urge a united Terran front is because blizzard went overboard (jesus, reading this sentence, I realize how far I've come). Yeah, yeah ... reapers sucked and were op. Unfair to zergs. I agreed at the time too. But the solution to forming a good game isn't "make terran awful for a while." And the problem with the nerfs for TLO wasn't the cheesy strat stuff. With rax after depot, terran has zero flexibility early game if we want any economy. We're going to end up with a worse economy anyway, but, if we want ANY, our first 15 food is standard. TLO is a creative dude. He doesn't like having the opponent know more or less exactly what he'll be doing for the first 3 minutes of a game without even scouting. Zerg grants TLO more flexibility. Which, for a creative player, is essential. It's great that you're watching Day9. He's a superstar. Now, for your next lesson, move past quoting him out of context and actually start trying to think about the game in a way ... how would day9 say ... isn't myopic, arrogant and rookie. | ||
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