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On October 24 2010 16:43 NATO wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 10:49 Heosat wrote:
Dario did not switch because Zerg is the flavour of the month in imbalance (and I think Blizzcon proved that). Instead he just enjoys the gameplay more and feels he can do better. All the team fully support him in his decision.
We may release replays from his Zerg practice over the last month in a future weekly. Is this the same Blizzcon I watched? I saw the Emperor play amazing and yet get completely crushed.
BoxeR is not playing to the best of his ability right now. Instead the matchups that were more balanced from the tournament were Sen vs. Loner and White-ra vs. Dimaga. In both cases the matches were quite one-sided.
I honestly don't believe Zerg is remotely overpowered, especially after watching the pros play over the last few days.
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On October 24 2010 16:55 Warrior Madness wrote:
I just wanna know why TLO feels that zerg suits hist style more than terran? If TLO is known for one thing it is his creativity and crazy builds and unit mixes. Zerg is quite boring to play (I say this as a zerg player). There are only really a handful of viable openings and unit mixes for zerg players.
P.S. I personally loved it when zerg was considered UP prior to the patch and the GSL1 because on ladder I would face nothing but T's and P's but now it's all Zzzzzzzz.
Of all the races I still think we have the most to learn about Zerg. Currently there are countless strategies that Dario has invented that need testing.
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At least Morrow announced he was switching before the patch.
I wonder if Hashe has switched back to Zerg?
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when will TLO post about this personally? The next weekly?
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On October 24 2010 17:13 Scoop wrote:
At least Morrow announced he was switching before the patch.
I wonder if Hashe has switched back to Zerg?
TLO played random in the beginning, so I see no problem with this. Anyways, Terran is completely different than it was before.
Terran early pressure has been nullified, which has greatly decreased the variety of opening builds TLO can use. In addition, Mech has been nerfed through the siege tank patch, and the roach range increase (hellions can't do shit against them now), so Terran has devolved into MMM timing pushes and drops, which was never part of TLO's style, especially since he hates the Marauder. I really think that Zerg has the potential to match TLO's style than Terran does now.
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Not sure its good choice from TLO. If you dont stick with one race you will never be the master, but since the game has just come out he can do that I guess. But later on, if TLO continue to switch to whatever race are stronger in a particular patch, he will not be successful.
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On October 24 2010 02:20 StarSense wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 02:18 HollowLord wrote:
Well I don't think we'll ever see him switch to Protoss, he seems to really hate playing as toss so he might flipflop between zerg and terran. GSL In-Game Regulations: you must play with the race you registered with (Terran, Protoss, Zerg, Random).
hes out of gsl....
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On October 24 2010 14:59 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 14:49 MythicalMage wrote:On October 24 2010 14:48 MadULol wrote:On October 24 2010 14:33 Grond wrote:
This sounds like a person who's only knowledge of TLO's play is from the TLOwnage video. He showed exceptional creativity as Random all throughout the Beta. I guess you think Battle of the Timing Attacks is the epitome of strategy. I don't comprehend how you label creative play as stupid shit.
Doesn't take an astronaut to figure out TLO favors cheesy wins over drawn-out games. Aside from fast rushes and the roaches, zerg play is mainly unchanged from what is was vs terran; It's still a pain in the @#% to defend a fast marine+tank push, especially if you went FE. People who were bad with zerg before the patch will still suck hard with zerg now. The roach range will help a little but in the long run ? Nah. Aside from that, GREAT... We'll get EVEN MORE "rerolled terrans" who will play zerg the same way all of these failed players do in zvz : 1 base spam 30 roaches a-move, something that basically forces the opponent to do the same... Watch his GSL games and tell me he favors "cheesy wins". TLO is definitely a macro player. So much so that Hypercheese saw fit to end the game early in the subsequent games, as all players who can't keep up macro-wise do.
Did you watch the same matches from the GSL2 as I did? He lost the macro game in game 1, then went for a strong one-base push in game 2. In game 3 he rushed for cloaked banshees, and when the four warpgate push came he had about 5 marines and a banshee to defend his base. Granted, his opponent was Sangho, and I'll continue to root for TLO in every game he plays, but don't kid yourself into thinking he's a really solid macro player. TLO is known, and famous, for his creative builds that stretch what is known about a race at the time he is playing, not his solid macro. That title is reserved for Idra.
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On October 24 2010 17:34 Caphe wrote:
Not sure its good choice from TLO. If you dont stick with one race you will never be the master, but since the game has just come out he can do that I guess. But later on, if TLO continue to switch to whatever race are stronger in a particular patch, he will not be successful.
He wont be race switching anymore.
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I'm bummed out, another Terran lost to the swarm forever.
So Liquid needs another Terran yeah? Are you taking suggestions Heosat? 
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On October 24 2010 16:29 noveyak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 15:59 MadULol wrote:On October 24 2010 15:56 .Aar wrote:
And I don't know about you, but "innovative 16hatch 15pool" (other whatever crazy things he'll do) doesn't exactly invoke much excitement. How's that innovative in the first place ? I think he was being sarcastic, meaning that zerg is harder to innovate with. But TLO is a very creative player, so I am sure we will see something =) Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 16:23 shynee wrote:
What are you talking about? These retarded speculations about him playing T because it was easier. The recent patches have made Terran a lot more limited in the mid and late game. Terran just isn't the same anymore. I honestly hated going mass bio, and now the patches are forcing me to mass up bio. TLO, if you remember, used to always go mech, and rarely massed up marauders as well. But now Terran has to use MMM every time because everything counters mech.
For all the SC1 Terran fans, honestly.. aren't you disappointed that T just isn't the same. I would give up the marauder for better mech play any day. Err not quite, I played sc1 quite a bit and i always remember trembling in fear behind my bunker after protoss stole my gas, desperately repairing until i got my siege tank.
Read my post again carefully.. what you just said backs up my point. You waited for mech play when you played Toss. Terran in SC2 can't wait for mech, otherwise they are going to be behind. Anyways.. nevermind.
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On October 24 2010 17:42 Heosat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:34 Caphe wrote:
Not sure its good choice from TLO. If you dont stick with one race you will never be the master, but since the game has just come out he can do that I guess. But later on, if TLO continue to switch to whatever race are stronger in a particular patch, he will not be successful. He wont be race switching anymore.
someone get a ss of this because this is HUGE!!! I loved TLO's play with nukes and macro. I can't believe i am going to miss nukes and see zerg macro. Will Dario be an IdrA type of zerg who goes mutas and roaches or a teched up one
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Hmmm he was quite entertaining as terran--one of the few terrans I actually like watching.
Oh well.
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One of Terra's finest soldiers gets infested.. Say it ain't so Dario.. Say it ain't so.. =/
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On October 24 2010 17:42 Heosat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:34 Caphe wrote:
Not sure its good choice from TLO. If you dont stick with one race you will never be the master, but since the game has just come out he can do that I guess. But later on, if TLO continue to switch to whatever race are stronger in a particular patch, he will not be successful. He wont be race switching anymore.
As much as I appreciate you sharing what is going on with TLO, It would be even cooler if you or someone you know could conduct a short interview so we could hear it all in his own words :D
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On October 24 2010 17:05 Heosat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 16:43 NATO wrote:On October 24 2010 10:49 Heosat wrote:
Dario did not switch because Zerg is the flavour of the month in imbalance (and I think Blizzcon proved that). Instead he just enjoys the gameplay more and feels he can do better. All the team fully support him in his decision.
We may release replays from his Zerg practice over the last month in a future weekly. Is this the same Blizzcon I watched? I saw the Emperor play amazing and yet get completely crushed. BoxeR is not playing to the best of his ability right now. Instead the matchups that were more balanced from the tournament were Sen vs. Loner and White-ra vs. Dimaga. In both cases the matches were quite one-sided. I honestly don't believe Zerg is remotely overpowered, especially after watching the pros play over the last few days.
Boxer played perfect. He just can't gain map control because Roaches are too powerful, not to mention the Reaper nerf which makes Roaches that much stronger.
After forcing Fruitdealer to cancel the natural, Boxer even scouted the gold expo early but couldn't do anything about it because his army is weak compared to Roaches.
I think the top 4 in the GSL end up as Z, Z, Z, Z, and Blizzard will be forced to use the nerf hammer once again.
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one more reason for me to love that guy
1. German
2. TL - Clanmember
3. In the GSL sort of ( esp as foreigner)
4. Now Zerg
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Yeah i guess TLO finally realizes how Overpowered zerg really is
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On October 24 2010 18:04 StarcraftMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:05 Heosat wrote:On October 24 2010 16:43 NATO wrote:On October 24 2010 10:49 Heosat wrote:
Dario did not switch because Zerg is the flavour of the month in imbalance (and I think Blizzcon proved that). Instead he just enjoys the gameplay more and feels he can do better. All the team fully support him in his decision.
We may release replays from his Zerg practice over the last month in a future weekly. Is this the same Blizzcon I watched? I saw the Emperor play amazing and yet get completely crushed. BoxeR is not playing to the best of his ability right now. Instead the matchups that were more balanced from the tournament were Sen vs. Loner and White-ra vs. Dimaga. In both cases the matches were quite one-sided. I honestly don't believe Zerg is remotely overpowered, especially after watching the pros play over the last few days. Boxer played perfect. He just can't gain map control because Roaches are too powerful, not to mention the Reaper nerf which makes Roaches that much stronger. After forcing Fruitdealer to cancel the natural, Boxer even scouted the gold expo early but couldn't do anything about it because his army is weak compared to Roaches. I think the top 4 in the GSL end up as Z, Z, Z, Z, and Blizzard will be forced to use the nerf hammer once again.
Really boxer played perfect? Didn't realize letting your opponent take the gold as his 1st expansion after getting bunker at the Nat perfect play. Please so how come in loner vs sen loner just demolished sen? roaches too powerful? Its all he went and he got DEMOLISHED. Watch loner play thats how tvz should be played not stay on 2 base all game then cry imba because you let zerg mass expo.
Rather then cry why don't you watch top terran players play tvz correctly before saying imba eh? From what I know a zerg did not win Blizzcon! Top 3 were P, T, P. Zerg is definitely very imbalanced couldn't even make top 3. (no I am not saying zerg is UP either I think their actually fine now)
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On October 24 2010 18:04 StarcraftMan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:05 Heosat wrote:On October 24 2010 16:43 NATO wrote:On October 24 2010 10:49 Heosat wrote:
Dario did not switch because Zerg is the flavour of the month in imbalance (and I think Blizzcon proved that). Instead he just enjoys the gameplay more and feels he can do better. All the team fully support him in his decision.
We may release replays from his Zerg practice over the last month in a future weekly. Is this the same Blizzcon I watched? I saw the Emperor play amazing and yet get completely crushed. BoxeR is not playing to the best of his ability right now. Instead the matchups that were more balanced from the tournament were Sen vs. Loner and White-ra vs. Dimaga. In both cases the matches were quite one-sided. I honestly don't believe Zerg is remotely overpowered, especially after watching the pros play over the last few days. Boxer played perfect. He just can't gain map control because Roaches are too powerful, not to mention the Reaper nerf which makes Roaches that much stronger. After forcing Fruitdealer to cancel the natural, Boxer even scouted the gold expo early but couldn't do anything about it because his army is weak compared to Roaches. I think the top 4 in the GSL end up as Z, Z, Z, Z, and Blizzard will be forced to use the nerf hammer once again.
just like blizzcon.right? riiiight?
people need to freakin get real and stop pulling weird OP claims out of thin air. the patch is out for a very short time, nothing proofs any imbalance or even hints at it and people are calling doomsday when infact in 90% of the situations the patch didnt affect the outcome of the game in any big way (see current "OMG XvZ" threads in strat forum.watch the reps)
also people need to stop the hate for no reason on tlo. he always played random /T/Z. he focused on one race cause he went to korea.now he focuses on his other one. not drama worthy at all.
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