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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
October 27 2010 19:22 GMT
#21
i think same reason for protoss also, building gateways in expansions.
i think it serves as faster rally and as extra meat to go through when the expansion is under attack.
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question
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Czech Republic509 Posts
October 27 2010 19:25 GMT
#22
well today foxer at first game vs cool made rax hidden(not like maka rax) down at his natural.Fruit scouted just one rax and no gas so hes probbably assuming hes fast expanding.So its imo thing to trick or confuse your opponent.
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guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
October 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#23
On October 28 2010 04:21 SpooN) wrote:
I think the "makarax" is actually a great little strategic move, heres why:

1. it really isnt as "risky" as tastosis claims, it is close enough to your main and easy to lift off if it is in jeopardy.


I'm not sure why they always make such a big deal about it because I agree with the points in the thread and especially this one. It's such little risk and it can make someone really screw up if they don't scout it and misread your open.
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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
October 27 2010 19:29 GMT
#24
On October 28 2010 04:27 guitarizt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 04:21 SpooN) wrote:
I think the "makarax" is actually a great little strategic move, heres why:

1. it really isnt as "risky" as tastosis claims, it is close enough to your main and easy to lift off if it is in jeopardy.


I'm not sure why they always make such a big deal about it because I agree with the points in the thread and especially this one. It's such little risk and it can make someone really screw up if they don't scout it and misread your open.


Because all commentators have the bad habit of making a big deal out of anything "non-standard."
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
October 27 2010 19:37 GMT
#25
On October 28 2010 04:25 question wrote:
well today foxer at first game vs cool made rax hidden(not like maka rax) down at his natural.Fruit scouted just one rax and no gas so hes probbably assuming hes fast expanding.So its imo thing to trick or confuse your opponent.


Nah, a lesser player may see that, but fruit noticed the OC was missing
thorgrimstarcraft
Profile Joined June 2010
Norway33 Posts
October 27 2010 19:40 GMT
#26
They build it there for vision, faster rally, also the fact that you can use it later in the game. Lift it back into your base. Its better than a proxy rax, because ull have the same amount of units anyway.
dutpotd
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada49 Posts
October 27 2010 19:46 GMT
#27
I actually really like this play as Terran, and frankly I think it could be successful even in cases where players can't later move buildings (i.e. Protoss).

Very many benefits and very few drawbacks.

Drawback - opponent 'could see easier', countered by benefit that they may not see it because it isn't where it would normally be.

Drawback - if needed to be floated loses production time.

Benefit - see above regarding scouting.

Benefit - rally time.

Benefit - unorthodox play. Honestly, just doing something that isn't expected or understood is likely to be a benefit in a strategy game where half the battle is figuring out what your opponent is doing.

In summary by building a rax outside of your base, but not so close to your opponent that it is considered a proxy, you are basically saying - you need to scout more/better/differently to your opponent, if they expect to gain the same amount of intel.

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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 27 2010 19:49 GMT
#28
artosis likes to exagerrate. everyone knows that. he was even very "disturbed" about how boxer keep patrol stacking his vikings and keep bringing it up every 5 sec.

although maka rax probably is only a 2 rax build which might throw an oppoent off just in case the opponent did not scout and assume 1 rax fe. Even if it is scouted, there is no difference from a normal 2 rax
divertiti
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada106 Posts
October 27 2010 20:21 GMT
#29
"It's purpose"? What is purpose?
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 20:31:06
October 27 2010 20:30 GMT
#30
On October 20 2010 12:39 boboyo wrote:
It allows him to keep his supply depos up during the rush so that the protoss can't sneak a probe/zealot into the base.


Mr. SO HIGH LEVEL himself, Tasteless, did not even notice how high level this is. I'm shocked.
HaGuN
Profile Joined April 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 21:23:13
October 27 2010 21:22 GMT
#31
On October 28 2010 05:30 RyanS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 12:39 boboyo wrote:
It allows him to keep his supply depos up during the rush so that the protoss can't sneak a probe/zealot into the base.


Mr. SO HIGH LEVEL himself, Tasteless, did not even notice how high level this is. I'm shocked.

also he dint even know marauders have never been able to slow down massive units then he said "in a recent patch.." i loled.

either way the idea of maka rax intrigues me, it seems to have worked in all MU when well placed.

edit:failgrammar.
"Also Zerg has won recently so I don't understand why Zerg is receiving a buff."-BoxeR
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 27 2010 21:29 GMT
#32
If you are wondering why this didn't happen in SC1, buildings fly faster now.
yoplate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States332 Posts
October 27 2010 22:23 GMT
#33
I was wondering about that. I think boboyo is right.
UisTehSux
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States693 Posts
October 27 2010 22:26 GMT
#34
I thought the point of this build was to feign a 1 Rax FE with 2/3 rax early game pressure?
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Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 22:33:41
October 27 2010 22:33 GMT
#35
makarax just sounds soooo awesome but despite from being awesome as it is right now


i think just a little distraction purpose evo tho it could be place a little better

but as i said on my stream tonight already



PROXY RAX a rax which is beeing build next to your enemy's basea

HIDDEN RAX a rax which will be placed out of sight of your enemy

MAKARAX a rax which is placed at your natural expansion which 100% will be scouted by your enemy and possibly will lose your the game in the long run
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Siffer
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States467 Posts
October 27 2010 22:35 GMT
#36
On October 28 2010 07:33 Special Endrey wrote:
PROXY RAX a rax which is beeing build next to your enemy's base


Proxy isnt short for Proximity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_war
SkyDiDeLY
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands51 Posts
October 27 2010 22:42 GMT
#37
On October 28 2010 07:35 Siffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 07:33 Special Endrey wrote:
PROXY RAX a rax which is beeing build next to your enemy's base


Proxy isnt short for Proximity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_war


Uh,, I think it is short for proximity, which is Starcraft Jargon obviously since it isnt the official short for proximity..
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
October 27 2010 22:44 GMT
#38
i got the impression that maka racks was just a term they used for poorly placed proxy racks.. cause maka tends to place his proxy racks in very easy to scout places.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
October 27 2010 22:58 GMT
#39
On October 28 2010 07:35 Siffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 07:33 Special Endrey wrote:
PROXY RAX a rax which is beeing build next to your enemy's base


Proxy isnt short for Proximity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_war


In starcraft, Proxy is short for Proximity. While IRL Proxy means a substitute for something else.

You are both correct and incorrect.
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Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
October 27 2010 23:05 GMT
#40
I asked Cellawerra what he thought of it - he wasn't sure
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
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