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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4742 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 19:38:28
October 14 2010 19:37 GMT
#581
-Barracks requirement changed from Command Center to Supply Depot.

I am switching to zerg......................
Seriously WTF that makes no sense to me....
Pathetic Greta hater.
JHancho
Profile Joined May 2010
United States166 Posts
October 14 2010 19:37 GMT
#582
VR nerf from out of the blue...

Stil confused as to why Blizz felt the need to actually implement the supply depot rax requirement. I think that it's extreme and quite dumb.

I'm extremely excited for Zerg now though. More HP on buildings! (vs reduction in Marauder dmg to buildings =\, but hey) Yay Roaches!

Take it easy. And if it is easy, it must be cheese
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
October 14 2010 19:37 GMT
#583
i can see some sense in the depot before rax thing because i have this friend who literally does nothing but go 9 barracks starts pumping out marines and adds 2 more rax and just marine rushes and he seems to win almost every game he plays and it kinda pisses me off cuz i like the good old natural builds that lead into long economic games.
Cake or Death?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#584
On October 15 2010 04:36 megagoten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 04:35 DooMDash wrote:
Test #1: VR still beats thor 1v1. Roughly 82 HP left. That's one more hit the Thor got in over last patch ( 108 hp ).

Test #2: Roaches now can now hit cannons behind gateway blocks. If the cannon is place one spot back the roach can hit the gateway with out being in range of the cannon.

no more forge expo?

Less greedy forge expo. tbh we can't complain, P has been raping poor Zergs.
Invol2ver
Profile Joined September 2010
United States330 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#585
On October 15 2010 04:33 Essentia wrote:
VR's were already hardly used, now I think they will never ever be used.


Do you even watch high-level starcraft?

They are used.
Losing money is less good than making it, confirm?
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#586
On October 15 2010 04:33 Zelniq wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [dont read this if you are a top terran] +

not only are fast raxes still possible and dangerous, so are proxy raxes. you can still reaper bunker rush a zerg who may foolishly believe their hatch first plays are safe


this is as safe as you can get though, terran proxy rax wont be that deadly if you scout it xD
"Mudkip"
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#587
Depot before rax = best change in the game. Ever.
Born to fast expand
Lovedrop
Profile Joined April 2010
2629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 19:39:09
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#588
On October 15 2010 04:34 Chocobo wrote:
I must be misunderstanding something. Can someone tell me why this voidray nerf is significant?

Sure, they do less damage at charge level 2... but aren't they doing the same amount when fully charged (level 3)? The speed upgrade I can understand, but why are people acting like voidrays are getting an enormous nerf here?

BTW 7 rax reaper simply needed to go. It was uncounterable at all but the very highest levels and is just an example of bad gameplay.


Just to clarify:
In terms of damage, the VR only has 2 stages. The incoming change is to the last and final stage, which significantly reduces the damage done to armored units. In terms of graphics however, The VR is shown to have 3 stages: the initial, the slightly larger beam, and the final charged PLOWTHROUGHSHIT beam. The initial beam and the slightly larger beam offers no difference in damage as is for cosmetics effects (for you to know you been chargin' ur lazorz), and the last one is obvious as the beam gets incredibly large and decimates your buildings.
Writerundefeated thunderdome champion 。゚+.(o´・ω・`o)+.゚。イィ!! :+:+: @lubdrop
sl0w
Profile Joined July 2010
United States447 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#589
Wow, can't feedback thors anymore? I think thors are gonna be a bigger part in TvP now.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#590
anybody can play right now T_T ?
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#591
I think blizzard are making too big changes. They need to make small shifts and see the impact. If its not enough then make another small shift in a month.
The last patch was good with a small increase in build time.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#592
I just realize that this patch is GREAT for my play style. I still think supply-barrack is bad but I can manage.

The buffing of supply health is really really useful
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#593
On October 15 2010 04:34 Chocobo wrote:
I must be misunderstanding something. Can someone tell me why this voidray nerf is significant?

Sure, they do less damage at charge level 2... but aren't they doing the same amount when fully charged (level 3)? The speed upgrade I can understand, but why are people acting like voidrays are getting an enormous nerf here?

.


There is no lvl 3 charge! Can we all get this through our heads........
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
October 14 2010 19:38 GMT
#594
Thankfully im not alone =( I can log on but can't play games so sad. Is it just because you're updating the server or something?

I could care less about any changes except factory for speed upgrade. The most worthless unit now. Good bye reapers!
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Chocobo
Profile Joined November 2006
United States1108 Posts
October 14 2010 19:39 GMT
#595
Wait... someone said there are only two Void Ray attack levels? Then why are there three levels graphically (and three levels of sound effect too)?

If there are only two levels, then good lord are void rays crap. I thought there was a third level, so the nerf was only to the middle level. So I was wrong then?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-14 19:41:19
October 14 2010 19:39 GMT
#596
On October 15 2010 04:37 OhJesusWOW wrote:
Did Flux Vanes just get demoted to worst upgrade in the game?

Nope makes them faster than vikings, which is all that matters really.

If there are only two levels, then good lord are void rays crap. I thought there was a third level, so the nerf was only to the middle level. So I was wrong then?

There are 2 levels, uncharged and charged. Uncharged = thin beam, charge = thick beam. Level 2, as you were thinking of it, does the same damage as totally uncharged.
cHaNg-sTa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1058 Posts
October 14 2010 19:39 GMT
#597
This makes me think Blizzard just doesn't read the forums. I don't think there was a single soul that liked the depot before rax change. It's really dumb. If they really wanted to nerf reapers, why not just make them cost more money or make them.. *cough* 2 supply???? omg, that would make it a lot easier. Take advice from your own patch nerfs a la roaches.
Jaedong <3 HOOK'EM HORNS!
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
October 14 2010 19:40 GMT
#598
wtf? oredy ? oO
Blizz did surprise me now ...
Now just a matter of announcing d3 (yeah rite... )
Scoop
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland482 Posts
October 14 2010 19:40 GMT
#599
On October 15 2010 04:32 MrCon wrote:
And yes, the supply before rax is like the worst change in sc2+bw+sc history.
It's impossible to find a logical or reasonable explanation for it. It only deletes T cheese from the game (hoho, fear the T cheese), it deletes some builds too, it's nothing really game changing, I don't know the purpose of that.
It's like they would make overlord required for pool. Not a big deal but still you don't understand why they would do this.


Zerg has an overlord from the beginning.
gakkgakk
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway902 Posts
October 14 2010 19:40 GMT
#600
Will mech tvp be viable now?
A timing is a build done by a player you like. An allin is a build done by one you dont. -sOda~
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