EPTZerg Build Order optimizer. - Page 22
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Ahelvin
France1866 Posts
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aMped
United States29 Posts
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Deleted_143
Australia256 Posts
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Cirqueenflex
499 Posts
first i tried 10 roach+ burrow asap. After 1 million simulated games and ALL of them including 2!!! roach warrens i stopped the simulation. Can't you limit the number of roach warrens somehow? I mean if those were actually factories i would be fine with 2. But roach warrens? It should stop such nonsense long before reaching 1000k simulated games. Also, i had several 100k simulations where the simulation ended with 37/36 supply. I think there is something still bugged with supply calculations. And i would love to see how many larvae are still available when the goal is reached (like if i go for 10 roach + burrow + tunneling claws and i can see that there has to be at least 1 unused larvae at the end and the simulator says it has 36/42 population and 123 minerals. I want to know if there are 1 or 3 larvae to spend those minerals on when i have my 10 roach + upgrades). Also i noticed that i finished with 200 gas but only 120 minerals. It often looked like it would be way better to pull drones off gas. Does the simulator include such a function? Other than that, this seems like a great tool. I bow before the master | ||
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
Edit: Example, here's 7 drones, and I made sure everything was blank except for 7 drones in the final WP: + Show Spoiler + @0:35 M:200 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildSpawningPool @0:49 M:51 G:0 L:3 S:5/10 BuildDrone @1:03 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:6/10 BuildDrone @1:04 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:15 M:53 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @1:19 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:20 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:32 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:34 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:40 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 5 ---Final Output--- At time: 1:40 Minerals: 130 Gas: 0 Supply: 8/10 Drones: 8 Overlords: 1 Hatcheries: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 | ||
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Ahelvin
France1866 Posts
@0:35 M:200 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildSpawningPool @0:49 M:51 G:0 L:3 S:5/10 BuildDrone @1:03 M:52 G:0 L:2 S:6/10 BuildDrone @1:04 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:06 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:15 M:53 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @1:19 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:20 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:32 Spawned: Drone+1 @1:34 Spawned: Larva+1 @1:40 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1 Satisfied. Number of actions in build order: 5 ---Final Output--- At time: 1:40 Minerals: 130 Gas: 0 Supply: 8/10 Drones: 8 Overlords: 1 Hatcheries: 1 Spawning Pools: 1 ------------------ Reporting the bug. | ||
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icezar
Germany240 Posts
@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone @0:12 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone @0:15 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:17 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:29 Spawned: Drone+1 @0:30 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:32 M:100 G:0 L:3 S:8/10 BuildOverlord @0:41 M:50 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone @0:47 Spawned: Larva+1 @0:57 Spawned: Overlord+1 @0:58 Spawned: Drone+1 Failed to meet waypoint. BuildSpawningPool At time: 1:00 Minerals: 109 Gas: 0 Supply: 9/18 Drones: 9 Overlords: 2 Hatcheries: 1 Fri Oct 22 16:27:13 CEST 2010: 356.10900000000004 | ||
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + At time: 12:00 Minerals: 312 Gas: 0 Supply: 17/278 Drones: 17 Overlords: 30 Hatcheries: 19 Edit: Oh, it doesn't care as long as it satisfies the final condition, my bad. Anyone happen to have timed out for example a 4 gate? Cloaked banshees in your main, etc? I'd love to see a collection of said timings. | ||
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Deleted_143
Australia256 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On October 22 2010 23:03 Ahelvin wrote: Just read the OP, you have to download JAVA first. i have the latest 6.22 java!but i never directly run a java apps like this way before. i tried to open it with javaws in C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre6\bin but it tells me 'Unable to run' with this details: CouldNotLoadArgumentException[ Could not load file/URL specified: C:\Users\NAME~1\AppData\Local\Temp\javaws6] at com.sun.javaws.Main.launchApp(Unknown Source) at com.sun.javaws.Main.continueInSecureThread(Unknown Source) at com.sun.javaws.Main$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) would appreciate anyone can help me about this. maybe i should try it on my desktop. | ||
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Ahelvin
France1866 Posts
On October 22 2010 23:32 Adeny wrote: Give it 5 hydras as WP3 and nothing else. This program is funny but it seems to act pretty weird, hehe. + Show Spoiler + At time: 12:00 Minerals: 312 Gas: 0 Supply: 17/278 Drones: 17 Overlords: 30 Hatcheries: 19 Edit: Oh, it doesn't care as long as it satisfies the final condition, my bad. Anyone happen to have timed out for example a 4 gate? Cloaked banshees in your main, etc? I'd love to see a collection of said timings. It seems that when you leave all fields to "0" in the "Final" tab, the program won't compute the WP properly. | ||
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Perscienter
957 Posts
Would it be possible to include barriers, which prohibit the calculation of apparently wrong build orders, e. g. excluding the roach warren unless roaches must be build? | ||
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OverLulz
Germany75 Posts
what i'd love to see is a more common way of printing the results, like usual BOs. would make it a lot easier to read. for example, when a calculation is done: export as BO. | ||
habermas
United Kingdom304 Posts
"Could not fine the main class." ".../evolutionchamber-version-014.jar. Program will now exit" error when trying to run it. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
When's the Protoss version coming? :D | ||
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
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Cirqueenflex
499 Posts
I think this would not only greatly increase the calculation speed but also allows for much more detailed situation-based builds. Not that i would deny that 4 hatcheries might get me faster to maxed than 2, but defending 4 bases isn't always a viable strategy. Also i must say i love the waypoint system. Still it looks like for each waypoint it does double the calculation time (i just want to force it to go Queen before Lair instead of Lair before Queen :p ) | ||
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Quengler
Germany7 Posts
It continues then with drone, drone, drone, drone, drone - obviously it is better to build more drones before building overlord and spawning pool, if you do nothing in the time but building drones. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I would like it if rather than a set number of something, I could tell it to build as many as possible of X by the time limit. For example, say I wanted to try a Muta rush at 8 minutes, it'd be nice if I could tell it to have as many Mutas as possible at 8 minutes, with waypoints of like fast hatchery, 2 spine crawlers, 2 queens, 6 Zerglings and Metabolic Boost. As is it seems useful for small builds or cheesy rush builds to figure out the optimized way to do those, but the longer you're setting the game up for the less reliable the program becomes because it seems to do things that real players just wouldn't do. I'd also like to see Protoss and Terran versions, but one thing at a time :D Edit: Oh also, does it know about Spawn Larva? I don't see larva injections anywhere in the build orders. | ||
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Rygar
Sweden28 Posts
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