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Gryffes

United Kingdom763 Posts

October 22 2010 08:28 GMT

#381

Awesome job, one Q though - what does the deadline field control?

Lomilar

United States130 Posts

October 22 2010 08:32 GMT

#382

The maximum time before that build is halted. For instance, at WP0 (waypoint 0), if you put in 10 zerglings and by the time it reaches 3 minutes, it doesn't have 10 zerglings, then it halts, and tries to figure out how to get 10 zerglings.

icezar

Germany240 Posts

October 22 2010 08:47 GMT

#383

WOW! Cooler Screaming!!!!!!!!!

I want to know the fast way to get 2 base saturated and after that just add WP to see how much that build will be delayed.
Running now for 44drone 1Hatch 1Layer 4Extractor
The problem is it only builds 1 extractor? and it adds a RW?

EDIT: Uploaded 120 min ago -> 122 downloads !!!!!!!!!!! more the 1 download each min!

PepperoniPiZZa

Sierra Leone1660 Posts

October 22 2010 09:53 GMT

#384

Awesome, I love it. Thanks.
_edit_
6 millon games played already :O!

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

October 22 2010 10:25 GMT

#385

Will it automatically add queens and their larva spawn?

icezar

Germany240 Posts

October 22 2010 10:39 GMT

#386

I sow that it does, also drones and OV and i think everything that is needed like lair extractor Hydraden if you ask it to build Hydras

MrBitter

United States2940 Posts

October 22 2010 10:51 GMT

#387

This is so impressive.

Amazing work.

I will definitely make a donation.

Yenticha

257 Posts

October 22 2010 11:04 GMT

#388

Wow, this stuff looks awesome! Congrats for working on it.

Doing my phd on AI/optimization, I have often thought about doing something similar, but the partial observability of sc2 just discouraged me :/

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

October 22 2010 11:20 GMT

#389

1) Can you add option "Put off 3 drones from Extractor at 100 gas"

2) Why it adds Roach Warren? I've "bought" 50 zerglings and queen only, why I need 1 Roach Warren ?

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@0:00 M:50 G:0 L:3 S:6/10 BuildDrone
@0:12 M:51 G:0 L:2 S:7/10 BuildDrone
@0:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:23 M:53 G:0 L:2 S:8/10 BuildDrone
@0:29 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:32 M:50 G:0 L:2 S

/10 BuildDrone
@0:40 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:49 M:104 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@0:59 M:75 G:0 L:1 S:10/10 ExtractorTrick
@0:59 M:50 G:0 L:1 S

/10 BuildDrone
@1:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:01 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@1:14 Spawned: Overlord+1
@1:14 M:124 G:0 L:1 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:15 M:81 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@1:16 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:30 M:149 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:31 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:45 M:237 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@1:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:00 M:335 G:0 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@2:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:15 M:443 G:0 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@2:17 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:17 M:414 G:0 L:0 S:17/18 BuildSpawningPool
@2:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:30 M:352 G:0 L:1 S:16/18 BuildHatchery
@2:30 M:52 G:0 L:1 S:15/18 BuildDrone
@2:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:45 M:159 G:0 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@2:47 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:00 M:277 G:0 L:1 S:17/18 BuildOverlord
@3:00 M:177 G:0 L:0 S:17/18 BuildExtractor
@3:02 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:15 M:319 G:0 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@3:22 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@3:25 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:30 Spawned: Extractor+1
@3:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:30 M:435 G:1 L:1 S:17/26 BuildOverlord
@3:30 M:335 G:1 L:0 S:17/26 BuildQueen
@3:32 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:55 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:10 Spawned: Hatchery+1
@4:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:20 Spawned: Queen+1
@4:22 M:699 G:100 L:4 S:19/36 Metabolic Boost
@4:22 M:599 G:0 L:4 S:19/36 BuildZergling
@4:22 M:549 G:0 L:3 S:20/36 BuildZergling
@4:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:30 M:578 G:15 L:4 S:21/36 BuildRoachWarren
@4:30 M:428 G:15 L:4 S:20/36 BuildZergling
@4:30 M:378 G:15 L:3 S:21/36 BuildZergling
@4:30 M:328 G:15 L:2 S:22/36 BuildZergling
@4:30 M:278 G:15 L:1 S:23/36 BuildOverlord
@4:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:46 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:46 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:46 M:326 G:46 L:2 S:23/36 BuildZergling
@4:46 M:276 G:46 L:1 S:24/36 BuildZergling
@4:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:55 Spawned: Overlord+1
@5:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:00 M:356 G:72 L:2 S:25/44 BuildZergling
@5:00 M:306 G:72 L:1 S:26/44 BuildZergling
@5:05 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:05 M:302 G:82 L:4 S:27/44 BuildZergling
@5:05 M:252 G:82 L:3 S:28/44 BuildZergling
@5:05 M:202 G:82 L:2 S:29/44 BuildZergling
@5:05 M:152 G:82 L:1 S:30/44 BuildZergling
@5:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:10 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:15 M:195 G:101 L:2 S:31/44 BuildZergling
@5:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:24 M:228 G:118 L:1 S:32/44 BuildZergling
@5:25 Spawned: Roach Warren+1
@5:29 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:29 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:29 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:29 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:30 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:30 M:233 G:129 L:2 S:33/44 BuildZergling
@5:30 M:183 G:129 L:1 S:34/44 BuildZergling
@5:39 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:45 M:272 G:158 L:2 S:35/44 BuildZergling
@5:45 M:222 G:158 L:1 S:36/44 BuildZergling
@5:48 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:50 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:50 M:218 G:167 L:4 S:37/44 BuildZergling
@5:50 M:168 G:167 L:3 S:38/44 BuildZergling
@5:50 M:118 G:167 L:2 S:39/44 BuildZergling
@5:50 M:68 G:167 L:1 S:40/44 BuildZergling
@5:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:54 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:00 Spawned: Larva+1
---Waypoint 1---
At time: 6:00
Minerals: 111 Gas: 186 Supply: 41/44
Drones: 16
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 34
Hatcheries: 2
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
----------------
@6:00 M:111 G:186 L:2 S:41/44 BuildZergling
@6:00 M:61 G:186 L:1 S:42/44 BuildZergling
@6:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:09 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:12 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@6:14 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:14 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:14 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:14 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:24 Spawned: Zergling+2
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 58
---Final Output---
At time: 6:24
Minerals: 233 Gas: 232 Supply: 43/44
Drones: 16
Overlords: 5
Queens: 1
Zerglings: 50
Hatcheries: 2
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------
Fri Oct 22 15:18:37 MSD 2010: 692232.6055000001

icezar

Germany240 Posts

October 22 2010 11:25 GMT

#390

Thats a strange build for 50 lings... 17 pool 16 Hatch ? how long did you let it run?

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

October 22 2010 11:27 GMT

#391

On October 22 2010 20:25 icezar wrote:
Thats a strange build for 50 lings... 17 pool 16 Hatch ? how long did you let it run?

In process now. Will post updated BO there after 20 mins

So what about "take 3 drones off extractor when 100 gas after metabolic boost"

icezar

Germany240 Posts

October 22 2010 11:54 GMT

#392

that will only work in your case.
I think a better way it would be to have a option like
"pull drones off gas after all the needed gas has been mined"
It knows how much gas is needed for the build at the beginning so it will work for all the builds that want to take drones off gas.

Trying to do the builds i notice that i am behind around 5 sec every minute and following the food count works very well.

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

October 22 2010 11:57 GMT

#393

20 minutes, 1950K games played, but roach warren still there for 50 lings and 2 queens

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/10 BuildDrone
@0:40 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:45 Spawned: Larva+1
@0:49 Spawned: Drone+1
@0:49 M:104 G:0 L:2 S:10/10 BuildOverlord
@1:00 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:14 Spawned: Overlord+1
@1:15 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:17 M:202 G:0 L:3 S:10/18 BuildSpawningPool
@1:25 M:53 G:0 L:3 S

/18 BuildDrone
@1:33 M:54 G:0 L:2 S:10/18 BuildDrone
@1:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:41 M:55 G:0 L:2 S:11/18 BuildDrone
@1:42 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:48 M:54 G:0 L:1 S:12/18 BuildDrone
@1:50 Spawned: Drone+1
@1:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@1:55 M:59 G:0 L:1 S:13/18 BuildDrone
@1:58 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:05 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:10 M:140 G:0 L:1 S:14/18 BuildDrone
@2:10 M

0 G:0 L:0 S:15/18 BuildExtractor
@2:12 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:22 Spawned: Spawning Pool+1
@2:22 M:175 G:0 L:0 S:14/18 BuildQueen
@2:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:25 M:53 G:0 L:1 S:16/18 BuildDrone
@2:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:40 Spawned: Extractor+1
@2:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:40 M:149 G:1 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@2:42 Spawned: Drone+1
@2:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@2:55 M:227 G:30 L:1 S:18/18 BuildOverlord
@2:57 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:10 M:265 G:58 L:1 S:18/18 ExtractorTrick
@3:10 M:240 G:58 L:1 S:17/18 BuildDrone
@3:12 Spawned: Queen+1
@3:12 Spawned: Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@3:20 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:25 M:347 G:87 L:1 S:19/26 BuildOverlord
@3:27 Spawned: Drone+1
@3:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:40 M:395 G:115 L:1 S:19/26 BuildOverlord
@3:50 Spawned: Overlord+1
@3:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@3:55 M:444 G:144 L:1 S:19/34 BuildZergling
@3:55 M:394 G:144 L:0 S:20/34 Metabolic Boost
@3:57 Spawned: Larva+4
@3:57 M:314 G:48 L:4 S:20/34 BuildZergling
@3:57 M:264 G:48 L:3 S:21/34 BuildZergling
@3:57 M:214 G:48 L:2 S:22/34 BuildOverlord
@3:57 M:114 G:48 L:1 S:22/34 BuildZergling
@4:05 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:10 M:192 G:72 L:1 S:23/42 BuildZergling
@4:19 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:21 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:21 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:21 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:22 Spawned: Overlord+1
@4:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:25 M:291 G:101 L:1 S:24/50 BuildZergling
@4:25 M:241 G:101 L:0 S:25/50 BuildQueen
@4:34 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:40 M:239 G:129 L:1 S:27/50 BuildZergling
@4:42 Spawned: Larva+4
@4:42 M:209 G:133 L:4 S:28/50 BuildZergling
@4:42 M:159 G:133 L:3 S:29/50 BuildZergling
@4:42 M:109 G:133 L:2 S:30/50 BuildZergling
@4:42 M:59 G:133 L:1 S:31/50 BuildZergling
@4:49 Spawned: Zergling+2
@4:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@4:55 M:138 G:158 L:1 S:32/50 BuildZergling
@5:02 M:157 G:171 L:0 S:33/50 BuildRoachWarren
@5:04 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:06 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:06 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:06 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:06 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:10 M:81 G:186 L:1 S:32/50 BuildZergling
@5:15 Spawned: Queen+1
@5:19 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:25 M:170 G:215 L:1 S:33/50 BuildZergling
@5:27 Spawned: Larva+4
@5:27 M:138 G:219 L:4 S:34/50 BuildZergling
@5:27 M:88 G:219 L:3 S:35/50 BuildZergling
@5:29 M:57 G:223 L:2 S:36/50 BuildZergling
@5:34 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:34 M:53 G:232 L:1 S:37/50 BuildZergling
@5:40 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:40 M:59 G:243 L:1 S:38/50 BuildZergling
@5:45 Evolved: Metabolic Boost
@5:49 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:51 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:51 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:53 Spawned: Zergling+2
@5:55 Spawned: Larva+1
@5:55 M:147 G:272 L:1 S:39/50 BuildZergling
@5:57 Spawned: Roach Warren+1
@5:58 Spawned: Zergling+2
---Waypoint 1---
At time: 6:00
Minerals: 144 Gas: 281 Supply: 40/50
Drones: 16
Overlords: 6
Queens: 2
Zerglings: 36
Hatcheries: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
Metabolic Boost
----------------
@6:04 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:10 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:10 M:236 G:300 L:1 S:40/50 BuildZergling
@6:12 Spawned: Larva+4
@6:12 M:205 G:304 L:4 S:41/50 BuildZergling
@6:12 M:155 G:304 L:3 S:42/50 BuildZergling
@6:12 M:105 G:304 L:2 S:43/50 BuildZergling
@6:12 M:55 G:304 L:1 S:44/50 BuildZergling
@6:19 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:25 Spawned: Larva+1
@6:34 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:36 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:36 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:36 Spawned: Zergling+2
@6:36 Spawned: Zergling+2
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 63
---Final Output---
At time: 6:36
Minerals: 227 Gas: 350 Supply: 45/50
Drones: 16
Overlords: 6
Queens: 2
Zerglings: 50
Hatcheries: 1
Gas Extractors: 1
Spawning Pools: 1
Roach Warrens: 1
Metabolic Boost
------------------
Fri Oct 22 15:53:34 MSD 2010: 699842.4577438019

SwampZero

Greece350 Posts

October 22 2010 12:00 GMT

#394

do i have to manually tell the program how many overlords my build needs, or will it figure it out?

luckyjj10

Canada33 Posts

October 22 2010 12:01 GMT

#395

Seems to just really have a thing for roach warrens

lol

icezar

Germany240 Posts

October 22 2010 12:04 GMT

#396

Yes RW is definitely a bug, also with queens, why get 2 Q for 1 base?
Yes, in game, i do that and also RW :-) but for a build optimizer there is no point.

Also, limiting the buildings can speed up the prog a lot.
There is no point to try any building beside pool, extractor and hatch for lings and queens.

SwampZero

Greece350 Posts

October 22 2010 12:06 GMT

#397

can someone tell me if i need to tell the program to build queens and overlords and tech, or if it will just find out and build them automatically to reach the goal?

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

October 22 2010 12:21 GMT

#398

Yeah, this is a bug. Because for 6 lings (in final waypoint) programm gives me too one roach warren

Rosvall

Sweden122 Posts

October 22 2010 12:28 GMT

#399

On October 22 2010 21:21 Existor wrote:
Yeah, this is a bug. Because for 6 lings (in final waypoint) programm gives me too one roach warren

Make sure that if you want to build say:

WP0: 2 lings 1 roach
WP1: 6 lings Metabolic boost 1 roach
Final: 20 lings Metabolic boost 1 roach

Aka, don't forget to input everything in the way points since the way it is coded now, if it satisfies the end it won't care about the middle.

Also, you can't assume you can run it for 15 min and you'll have an optimal build order. Minimum should be at least 4 hours+, so there's no use is saying "Hey I've run my for 1 hour but it does something weird".

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

October 22 2010 12:33 GMT

#400

But I dont want roaches (as example) and want to find fastest Build Order for 50 lings. Why it builts me Roach Warren, if I dont want roaches in any waypoint and final ?

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