EPTZerg forcefield... Changefield !!! - Page 10
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op25no11
Afghanistan15 Posts
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op25no11
Afghanistan15 Posts
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madnessman
United States1581 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:59 Wreacknell wrote: This seems like a really advanced strategy. Maybe your opponent will go ahead and just effing kill you. Just maybe. I don't htink that's how day9 meant it... | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On October 14 2010 12:24 Xapti wrote: Most terran players have at least one hellion or siege tank by the time zerg could get a large army, as well as a nydus and a bunch of overseers with a lot of energy. Not only that, but if they don't have hellions and tanks, they very likely have medivacs instead, which can allow marines and marauders to just jump over the changelings Lastly, stimmed marines, or really even any army, could probably kill a mass of changelings really fast when you shift click... all you got to do is hold shift and spam right click, pretty damn simple and fast. The best way to play this is with maybe 2 changelings, since it's not common one would have any more energy to nydus at a good time, and an extra investment of overseers is a complete waste of money when you can get infestors to fungal or mutas to harass. They don't change to allied units AFAIK. I think you are missing the point. If the enemy needs to siege up a tank or use drop to ferry his units into his base to save it, you've already made a huge gain. Changelings change into the units of the first player they see, so you can use this in multiplayer to block teammates. | ||
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HughJorgen
Australia37 Posts
On October 14 2010 12:24 Xapti wrote: Most terran players have at least one hellion or siege tank by the time zerg could get a large army, as well as a nydus and a bunch of overseers with a lot of energy. Not only that, but if they don't have hellions and tanks, they very likely have medivacs instead, which can allow marines and marauders to just jump over the changelings Lastly, stimmed marines, or really even any army, could probably kill a mass of changelings really fast when you shift click... all you got to do is hold shift and spam right click, pretty damn simple and fast. The best way to play this is with maybe 2 changelings, since it's not common one would have any more energy to nydus at a good time, and an extra investment of overseers is a complete waste of money when you can get infestors to fungal or mutas to harass. They don't change to allied units AFAIK. Sorry, what I mean is, if you're player 1 and your teammate is player 2 and you're playing against players 3 and 4, my idea is to move three changelings near to player 3, then use those changelings to block player 4. I'm guessing that in lower level games at least, player 4 will think that his own teammate has blocked him in, and will probably ask his teammate to move them. Hilarity ensues... | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On October 14 2010 06:03 absalom86 wrote: I don´t see what 100-100 gas has to do with larva production. First of all it's not 100 gas if he's making enough to drop 16+ changelings at once, and secondly obviously it has nothing to do with the larvae production, it's a matter of using up gas that normally would be quickly replenishing the zerg army. If you use up that gas before you attack, your reinforcements are going to be too ling heavy, which may be largely useless depending on the composition of your opponent's army. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On October 14 2010 14:12 Nightmarjoo wrote: First of all it's not 100 gas if he's making enough to drop 16+ changelings at once, and secondly obviously it has nothing to do with the larvae production, it's a matter of using up gas that normally would be quickly replenishing the zerg army. If you use up that gas before you attack, your reinforcements are going to be too ling heavy, which may be largely useless depending on the composition of your opponent's army. This trick does not REQUIRE many overseers, all it needs is 1. You CAN do it with many, to delay even further, although doing it with 1 is more subtle. You can get 4 changelings out of 2 overseer that you get anyway for scouting and detection. In an end game situation, or mid game where you are harassing hardcore with a flock of mutas, you can get 2-3 overseers to take out a base for FREE because it delays his army. Think outside the box. Also, in an endgame situation ( try looking at video #2 ) when your army is already capped, some extra gas for overseers for changefield does absolutely nothing to hinder your army. | ||
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Dagon
Romania264 Posts
 Love the name, btw.. I can allmost hear Tasteless in the gsl screaming.. CHANGEFIELD GALORE!! | ||
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WB Kid
Canada17 Posts
I like what i saw though, very creative. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On October 15 2010 02:29 WB Kid wrote: In both games, if you had attacked his army head on you would have won anyways. im interested to see this strategy in a game where you dont really have an advantage to start with. I like what i saw though, very creative. Much safer to win with your whole army remaining than lose half of it, check the new clip and you'll see how much of a difference it makes. | ||
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Malminos
United States321 Posts
1: That's really cool! i'll have to try that. 2: <insert diamond player> already posted about this back in beta, that is so last week. 3: This could easily be stopped by <insert tactic> 4: I didn't actually try this in a game, and without trying it im just going to say it's stupid. Until this thread gets 20+ pages, then i'll pretend i never doubted it. 5: <insert troll post> 6: Xel'Naga imba. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:07 Malminos wrote: Summarization of strategy post replies on TL: 1: That's really cool! i'll have to try that. 2: <insert diamond player> already posted about this back in beta, that is so last week. 3: This could easily be stopped by <insert tactic> 4: I didn't actually try this in a game, and without trying it im just going to say it's stupid. Until this thread gets 20+ pages, then i'll pretend i never doubted it. 5: <insert troll post> 6: Xel'Naga imba. You forgot " Oh I just discovered this myself this morning ! ". | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
In the example I mentioned from Edge he hit the P nat on DQ with mutas and then the P moves his stalkers but then he sent 2 changelings to ramp block. The P is less likely to notice because really who is checking the ramp when you have mutas in your nat. It bought him JUST enough time to take out the nexus and run without taking damage on his mutas. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On October 15 2010 02:21 Dagon wrote: Looks cute but dosen't seem that effective really.. And yeah, it takes some time to click on all the changelings, but it îs easy if you have a mouse with APM TECHNOLOGY!! Love the name, btw.. I can allmost hear Tasteless in the gsl screaming.. CHANGEFIELD GALORE!! Wait for it in gsl2! | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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ccdnl
United States611 Posts
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lindn
Sweden833 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:51 ZOMGCYN wrote: That was so obviously set up xD Good creativity but not viable at all really since pros would kill the changelings as soon as they saw them. But yeah voted Dimaga for the same reason XD well having 30+ off them and the fact that without detection they need to focus fire them down it'd give you enough time to run in, kill shit and run out | ||
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mskaa
Denmark155 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:52 Phanekim wrote: i only laughed cuz of the unexptected benny hill track. Im ashamed to say that it got me as well. :D Also this really isnt a new thing.. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On October 15 2010 10:39 lindn wrote: well having 30+ off them and the fact that without detection they need to focus fire them down it'd give you enough time to run in, kill shit and run out Again, Detection does nothing to changelings. | ||
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michaelhasanalias
Korea (South)1231 Posts
On October 12 2010 06:55 absalom86 wrote: Detection does nothing to changelings, you need to manually click each and every one. ' I think the real trick is.... put them all on patrol on the ramp, then barely any units will get by, and he wont be able to kill them off / wont bother | ||
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