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chumpchous
Profile Joined September 2010
68 Posts
September 24 2010 15:03 GMT
#1301
On September 24 2010 23:09 klauz619 wrote:
After he won by doing nothing by ultralisks and a-moving them I think he might consider sticking to zerg.


how are posts like this allowed here.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
September 24 2010 15:03 GMT
#1302
On September 24 2010 23:09 klauz619 wrote:
After he won by doing nothing by ultralisks and a-moving them I think he might consider sticking to zerg.


lol u really watched the games??? cant believe it..
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 15:05:26
September 24 2010 15:04 GMT
#1303
On September 24 2010 23:36 Aezir wrote:
When koreans whine about stuff, its cool and awesome... right?

when someone with 6 post talk trash about koreans its awesome right?

ps: sorry about double posting.
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
September 24 2010 15:04 GMT
#1304
it seems as zerg its very hard to be aggressive and set the terms of the playing field.

it's always...crap what is he building behind that wall..i need to know so i don't build the wrong units to counter him.....

lack of creativity / diversity for zerg make them extremely hard to build anything but a direct counter....and behind the terran/protoss (one zealot) wall they can build any number of things...

i srsly hate how one zealot wall is so lame...
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
September 24 2010 15:10 GMT
#1305
If the next patch doesn't yield SOME kind of actual buff for Zerg, I'm selling this game and forgetting it exists, and telling everyone I know to do the same. It's really not worth $60 to not be able to actually enjoy the game. They might as well just remove Zerg as a race and keep them in the campaign as an unplayable enemy. Then they'd at least have a sensible place given their design.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
September 24 2010 15:10 GMT
#1306
top Zergs are not that far behind top Terran or Toss. it is an UP race, and certainly a harder one to play, but it is not so UP that the race needs to be redesigned. Subtle buffs to certain units and mechanics will likely be enough to even things out--any more, and guys like IdrA or Cool will leave top terran or toss in the dust.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
September 24 2010 15:12 GMT
#1307
On September 25 2010 00:10 Misanthrope wrote:
If the next patch doesn't yield SOME kind of actual buff for Zerg, I'm selling this game and forgetting it exists, and telling everyone I know to do the same. It's really not worth $60 to not be able to actually enjoy the game. They might as well just remove Zerg as a race and keep them in the campaign as an unplayable enemy. Then they'd at least have a sensible place given their design.


Fight the power man.
iNty.sCream
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany195 Posts
September 24 2010 15:16 GMT
#1308
what is this kind of balance where Z hast to put much more effort into their play than T or P ? yeah today someone came up with a "balance-graph" that should show how fine the balance is. zerg is stillt the most annoying and intense race to play ( no, dont tell me to switch race - -" ).
Bisu best hairspray = win
bonedriven
Profile Joined August 2010
258 Posts
September 24 2010 15:18 GMT
#1309
So no one sees the irony in Cool's 1st and 3rd games today?

I'm not talking about Cool's QQing before his "Spoiler" today. It's just how Cool "Spoiler" the opponent Terran suddenly made me feel the irony in it.

Blizzard says "What saved you was just a bug! You won't be able to 'Spoiler' Terran like today. We'll fix the Terran-not-as-OP-as-before-problem SOON."
Hence,"Like a Virgin."
ShLiM
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria178 Posts
September 24 2010 15:29 GMT
#1310
On September 24 2010 23:09 klauz619 wrote:
After he won by doing nothing by ultralisks and a-moving them I think he might consider sticking to zerg.

r u fkn srs?
1st game, Cool gave his best doing everything perfectly, ONLY to be able to hold ogsTOP, who was doing basicly nothing.
so one player have to play his best, the other just hanging arround, just to be 50-50 situation.
something is broken here very badly.
IBASI ZMIQTA
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1769 Posts
September 24 2010 15:36 GMT
#1311
i think 1 solution could be to lower the cost of the muta.
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Rawrie
Profile Joined August 2010
26 Posts
September 24 2010 15:39 GMT
#1312
On September 25 2010 00:36 ICanFlyLow wrote:
i think 1 solution could be to lower the cost of the muta.


would be OP imo
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 24 2010 15:41 GMT
#1313
Brood Lords and Roaches were OP in beta, that didn't mean that you couldn't beat Zerg it just meant that the odds were stacked against you. Same thing now, you can win as Zerg you haven't got a lot going for you. I mean :D if no Zerg won a game in the GSL then it would be beyond broken so the fact that Zerg occasionally wins doesn't mean much.
iNty.sCream
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany195 Posts
September 24 2010 15:43 GMT
#1314
why its so bad to swap roaches and hydras in the tech tree, while nerfing the hydra , making it 1 supply while redesign the roach into that unit that it was designed for - for taking damage with regen.

i honestly dont think this would be terribly OP.
Bisu best hairspray = win
KiaL.Kiwi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany210 Posts
September 24 2010 15:43 GMT
#1315
On September 25 2010 00:18 bonedriven wrote:
So no one sees the irony in Cool's 1st and 3rd games today?

I only saw the first game, but Top through a already won game away by doing fancy medivac drops that did not do any damage. Instead he could have just pushed out 2 mins ealier with mech only and completly roflstomped Cool.

On September 25 2010 00:36 ICanFlyLow wrote:
i think 1 solution could be to lower the cost of the muta.

Don't make us even more dependant on the one decent designed midgame unit we have D:
Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
September 24 2010 15:43 GMT
#1316
On September 25 2010 00:41 hugman wrote:
Brood Lords and Roaches were OP in beta, that didn't mean that you couldn't beat Zerg it just meant that the odds were stacked against you. Same thing now, you can win as Zerg you haven't got a lot going for you. I mean :D if no Zerg won a game in the GSL then it would be beyond broken so the fact that Zerg occasionally wins doesn't mean much.


I think that's kinda the point.

No one is saying it's impossible to win, just that you have to vastly outplay the other person. You can't make near the same number of mistakes.
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
September 24 2010 15:48 GMT
#1317
Terran is so well made.... every unit it makes is useful at every stage of the game, which gave rise to the 111 build. Toss is basically relying on storm and colossus, and zerg army is always roach ling hydra plus however much infestor/ultra/br you can afford. Mass mutal is only viable (and so fucking annoyingly so) in pvz. When you know your opponent is going roach hydra every single time, and considering how ridiculous cheap/quick to make/effective m&m is againt that combo even without higher tech support, zerg really has no answer against terran atm.
Flummie
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands417 Posts
September 24 2010 15:49 GMT
#1318
Cool owned the best player from OGS so I guess there is no need from him switching race as he is kicking ass.

And the numbers aren't that much of a difference anymore

Terran: 6
Zerg: 2
Protoss: 4 or 3

I think fruitseller is making zerg vs terran a little bit more balanced :D He did an amazing job!
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Seam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1093 Posts
September 24 2010 15:49 GMT
#1319
On September 25 2010 00:49 Flummie wrote:
Cool owned the best player from OGS so I guess there is no need from him switching race as he is kicking ass.

And the numbers aren't that much of a difference anymore

Terran: 6
Zerg: 2
Protoss: 4 or 3

I think fruitseller is making zerg vs terran a little bit more balanced :D He did an amazing job!


Beating people he's better than doesn't prove balance =s
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok. - Liquid`Tyler
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 24 2010 15:51 GMT
#1320
On September 25 2010 00:49 Flummie wrote:
Cool owned the best player from OGS so I guess there is no need from him switching race as he is kicking ass.

And the numbers aren't that much of a difference anymore

Terran: 6
Zerg: 2
Protoss: 4 or 3

I think fruitseller is making zerg vs terran a little bit more balanced :D He did an amazing job!


Cool is more worried about Protoss than Terran. Especially the Top protosses. *cough* Tester *cough*
Yargh
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