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FSP.Siggy
Canada138 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:14 Gescom wrote: From Blizzard: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627980736?page=3#55 This is at least mildly reassuring. I wish they wouldn't use the 's' word though. | ||
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Squirrel
United States1102 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:23 Butigroove wrote: It only stops movement, not casting. Although medivacs cannot load/unlaod when theyre fungaled So yeah. It won't stop storms, nor Blink. Infestors are really nice with fungal growth...but not that good. | ||
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Nillinch
Poland147 Posts
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SlowBlink
United States102 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:23 Butigroove wrote: It only stops movement, not casting. Although medivacs cannot load/unlaod when theyre fungaled I never quite understood why stalkers can still blink while fungal'd it seems counter-intuitive and kind of broken. The "hold these units in place" spell doesn't actually hold those units in place. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:20 d_so wrote: i still don't get why dark swarm became a terran skill. bring back scourge lol dude pdd has nothing on dark swarm | ||
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Squirrel
United States1102 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:27 EleanorRIgby wrote: lol dude pdd has nothing on dark swarm It's about even, actually. Cons: Won't stop anything anymore, only attacks that travel. Pros: You can still shoot while the other person can't. Seems even to me =s | ||
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SlowBlink
United States102 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:27 EleanorRIgby wrote: lol dude pdd has nothing on dark swarm It's literally the exact same spell minus the orange poofy cloud, except that when zerg had it, splash damage still did damage. | ||
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pookychoo
New Zealand96 Posts
Playing T or P gives you more options, is safer in that walling is feasible and you have more ability to recover from mistakes, and requires less overall APM to be effective than Zerg. When I play Zerg I notice my workload increases significantly, due to the macro mechanics of larvae, creep tumors, spreading overlords to scout and the general paranoia of being reactive to what the opponent is doing. Thats not to say that balance is the only deciding factor in matches, most often player skill will triumph. Particularly for average ladder players, because the variance in skill between players is often wide. It just means that right now, Zerg players are working harder and Cools frustration is testament to that. | ||
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deverlight
Korea (South)463 Posts
http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=2109142&page=3 Title reads "lololololol wtf why is my QQ post on teamliquid?" Body reads "lololololol wtf" Netizen comments go something along the lines of "You're famous worldwide!" "Anyway please win tonight 2:0!" "Lol now you can't even take back what you said - looks like you'll just have to change races" "Of course they know when one of the best zergs in the world is crying" "You're their zerg hero!" | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:30 SlowBlink wrote: It's literally the exact same spell minus the orange poofy cloud, except that when zerg had it, splash damage still did damage. errr no. PDD stops anything that has a projectile animation. PDD lets through things like hellion flame, tank shots, etc. PDD doesnt stop your own attacks. swarm could potentially backfire if utilized with hydras since hydras cant shoot in. terran has no disadvantage with all their units being completely unaffected by PDD PDD affect AA. stalkers get raped by banshees because of this. | ||
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:32 deverlight wrote: Hahaha apparently Fruitseller knows about this thread... http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=2109142&page=3 Title reads "lololololol wtf why is my QQ post on teamliquid?" Body reads "lololololol wtf" Netizen comments go something along the lines of "You're famous worldwide!" "Anyway please win tonight 2:0!" "Lol now you can't even take back what you said - looks like you'll just have to change races" "Of course they know when one of the best zergs in the world is crying" "You're their zerg hero!" he should feel proud it exploded with so many posts in such short time. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
- give the medivac a cooldown for healing after he dropped units - zerglings gets wings with speed upgrade. Make zerglings able to transform into flying banelings when Z has a spire (cost/damage I dunno) (good for TvZ as well as PvZ, so you can snipe colossi as well without having to make otherwise useless corruptors. Perhaps give corruption a small AoE and incrase mana cost to 100 could be good too) - give a very small cooldown to concussive shells, like 1/2 shots, or 1/3, or whatever. (so it's less powerfull when stimed) - make structures a new type of armor perhaps, like in wc3. So they can't be sniped byt 8 marauder/3 immortals so easily. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:30 SlowBlink wrote: It's literally the exact same spell minus the orange poofy cloud, except that when zerg had it, splash damage still did damage. No. A dark swarm can be casted again and again and again with consuming cheap zerglings and pdd can be destroyed and runs out of energy and cant be casted again and again and again. I played zerg in broodwar and trust me PDD has absolutely nothing on dark swam. Dark swarm even absorbed tank hits(except the splash) and pdd doesn't absorb marine shots either. And you were able to leapfrog with darkswarm. | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:35 Chen wrote: errr no. PDD stops anything that has a projectile animation. PDD lets through things like hellion flame, tank shots, etc. PDD doesnt stop your own attacks. swarm could potentially backfire if utilized with hydras since hydras cant shoot in. terran has no disadvantage with all their units being completely unaffected by PDD PDD affect AA. stalkers get raped by banshees because of this. Iirc dark swarm didn't stop your own units from attacking either..the only spell in BW that did that would be Dweb which was basically useless only used rarely =P | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:44 fAnTaCy wrote: Iirc dark swarm didn't stop your own units from attacking either..the only spell in BW that did that would be Dweb which was basically useless only used rarely =P It did stop your own shots. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:32 deverlight wrote: Hahaha apparently Fruitseller knows about this thread... http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=2109142&page=3 Title reads "lololololol wtf why is my QQ post on teamliquid?" Body reads "lololololol wtf" Netizen comments go something along the lines of "You're famous worldwide!" "Anyway please win tonight 2:0!" "Lol now you can't even take back what you said - looks like you'll just have to change races" "Of course they know when one of the best zergs in the world is crying" "You're their zerg hero!" Lol I find it hilarious that he thinks this thread is so comical. Pretty sure he was just ranting and now its exploded into a 9k+ view thread about balance. Here's hoping blizz ultimately fixes balance properly. | ||
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:44 fAnTaCy wrote: Iirc dark swarm didn't stop your own units from attacking either..the only spell in BW that did that would be Dweb which was basically useless only used rarely =P If the other guy got units under the swarm, your Hydras wouldn't be able to hit those units | ||
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Rodiel
France573 Posts
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csfield
United States206 Posts
On September 24 2010 12:26 MrKozi wrote: I'm not trying to troll or something. I just wanna tell u guys that if u like to play zerg just play it. Zerg UP are only on high lvl or maybe only on pro lvl so u can still win leader games and every game u loose dont try to blame blizz or race but your skill. Zerg dont forgive mistakes so thats only gonna make u stronger player in future then that race get eventually balanced. I agree with this. It makes sense for people trying to win tournaments to be frustrated but for the rest of us the current situation is a perfect training tool. If your goal is simpy to win games now, then playing zerg sucks but if your goal is to improve your skills and be the best player you can be having to work twice as hard and not make any mistakes is ideal. | ||
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SyyRaaaN
Sweden136 Posts
People can argue how much they want about why its so, but the truth still stands - Zergs aren't winning yet and let me remind you that the game hasn't been out for 2 months - it has been out for 7 months, beta included. After 7 months of SC2 the baby sickness stuff i. e. that they are harder to play - should be fairly gone. And no - I'm not saying that the races have been mastered yet. What I'm really shocked over is the 18 months wait for the expansion. What I'm wondering is if the game will survive that long without it. SC1 got BW i EU about a year after the release. In NA i think it was 6 months after release. Imho HotS needs to come out in 6-7 months unless they provide a fresh content patch that solves loads of the Zerg issues. Although i find them the most enjoyable race - they are lacking in some departments and hopefully blizzard addresses this with, like i said, a content patch. Anybody thinks the game survives 18 months with the current in-game content? I think P/T does, but Z doesn't and a game with 2 and ½ race isn't very good ;D. | ||
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