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[VOTE] SC2 Player quality limits in order to post - Page 8
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
seems like only new users disagree, shocking.... | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:21 TechDeft wrote: How would it purge people? We would still be reading it. We would still be learning. We could still create valid discussions in the main area of the forums. The "main" areas you speak of wouldn't be "main" anymore. Why bother creating a thread where the newbies and 'WoW players' cry about marauders when you have the option of creating one where only people of your gaming caliber do? It would make what you call the "main" part of the site a wasteland of trolls and whining. On September 21 2010 05:21 TechDeft wrote: And what are you worried about? You can't contribute anything right now anyway, because as you stated, you don't KNOW anything. That's right, and I don't. I post in General, mostly, and when I do post here it's to answer polls and make attempts at humour. On September 21 2010 05:21 TechDeft wrote: So how would the forum change for you? It wouldn't. People can still come read strategy discussions, and in the regular forum, people can still do 8 posts a day about T imbaness or Void Ray rush problems. I watch Day9 as much as I can, read build order guides, practice against the computer, I'm just not good at it. The message I'm getting by this suggestion is that because of that, it's not worth talking to me and that I'm just another troll messing up your website. | ||
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tacrats
476 Posts
no people give respect to those that deserve it is not the same as people not respecting anyone at all. | ||
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tacrats
476 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:32 bonifaceviii wrote: The "main" areas you speak of wouldn't be "main" anymore. Why bother creating a thread where the newbies and 'WoW players' cry about marauders when you have the option of creating one where only people of your gaming caliber do? It would make what you call the "main" part of the site a wasteland of trolls and whining. That's right, and I don't. I post in General, mostly, and when I do post here it's to answer polls and make attempts at humour. I watch Day9 as much as I can, read build order guides, practice against the computer, I'm just not good at it. The message I'm getting by this suggestion is that because of that, it's not worth talking to me and that I'm just another troll messing up your website. having people who know what they are talking about deal with people who do not have a clue just results in stagnant/uninteresting discussions. the people who want to discuss things will just get frustrated and choose not to waste their time discussing issues. If noobs dont contribute now, then not allowing them to post in some threads only filters out the garbage and keeps the good intact. i dont see the downside. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:32 tacrats wrote: no people give respect to those that deserve it is not the same as people not respecting anyone at all. I strongly dissagree with the idea that someones other credentials can some how allow them to be disrespectful towards others (if that indeed is your position). I think that is a very misguided approach that personifies this whole dilema (I know more than this guy therefore hes an idiot and my posting style should reflect this). | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:25 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Can you compare AJ's strategy discussion to some other WoW Aarena forum's strategy discussion that does not have rating requirements and show that AJ isn't any better? AJ doesn't have to be a perfect forum in order to prove that its methods are in its best interests. And it's unreasonable to expect a strategy forum to provide excellent responses to any question you throw at it. If I think something is a bad idea and I know most people will agree with me, it's better if I don't waste any effort giving a long explanation why it's a bad idea. I can say "don't do that strat it sucks" and when everyone else reads that thread and agrees w/ me, they won't bump it just to say that they agree with me. They let it die. So it dies and that's all you see is one guy asking a question, one expert saying "no lol!" and nothing else. But you have to respect the consensus of top players and let them put effort into discussing more interesting things. AJ's forum is actually worse than just the battlenet forums for WoW. Basically any idiot could get posting rights and just troll that site. This site is really really REALLY good. I dont know if people have even been on other forums, like MW2 forums, arenajunkies etc etc. They all suck massively compared to this one in terms of quality. I dont know why you'd want to change that. There are a few bad posts, but the game is brand new and i'm sure over time the quality will become much better. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
O SHIT GUYS I GOTTA HIDE MY LEET STRATS FROM DEM BRONZE PLAYERS | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:34 tacrats wrote:having people who know what they are talking about deal with people who do not have a clue just results in stagnant/uninteresting discussions. If noobs dont contribute now, then not allowing them to post in some threads only filters out the garbage and keeps the good intact. i dont see the downside. That's fine, and you're entitled to that opinion. I'm giving mine, even though it obviously isn't worth as much here. | ||
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Squirrel
United States1102 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:34 tacrats wrote: having people who know what they are talking about deal with people who do not have a clue just results in stagnant/uninteresting discussions. If noobs dont contribute now, then not allowing them to post in some threads only filters out the garbage and keeps the good intact. i dont see the downside. But who's to say that high level Diamond players are that much better posters? I hate to use him as an example, but IdrA for instance. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Idra might be a horrible poster but he knows the game. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:28 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I think the problem is that most people don't act in a way that deserves respect. I agree. Pretty much people like to go "I THINK THIS IS WHY THIS IS THE WAY THIS IS AND I'M FUCKING RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG" and alot of "elitism". And really, what about people who aren't pro-gamers that DOES have a high-quality piece of post? let's say iunno, Chill? djWHEAT? Day9? I don't know their skill level (except Wheat, I know where he's at) they may NOT be like Flash-level skilled players, they may not be the high diamond proleague qualified players but they can give constructive and good quality posts of whatever they post and whatnot. So what's this talk about having a sub-forum about pro-gamers only to post? Srsly, if theres a pro-gamer section, I can only imagine them making a topic going "Srsly people, Terran's fucking OP. -Idra" rather then a srs discussion at times. I could be wrong but well, I could be right too. | ||
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Toxigen
United States390 Posts
I voted to allow the general public to still be able to read (but not post) in the 1200+ only forum. I've learned so much just from reading these boards. If I didn't start coming here I would have never heard of Day[9] or Psy, and both those players have dramatically improved my game. However, I'd still like to be able to post my own issues (currently it's fending off phoenix harass as Z and wondering whether T has a fair counter to muta/bling) and help out bronzies who legitimately want help with their macro. | ||
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DwmC_Foefen
Belgium2186 Posts
People say it's elitist, I say it's common sense. This isn't a democracy. This is TeamLiquid, a forum with a once great big "qualityposts/total number of posts" - ratio. I voted for a 1200+ subforum which everyone can read but only the best can post in. (Should this ever need to happen.) Seems about right. Although... I don't know if it would get used much. I think most progamers chat amongst themselves on MSN or whatever. So yeah. I'm indifferent, TL-admins know what's best. ^^ | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:21 Mantikor wrote: Actually, the irony of this is that i'm pointing out how within minutes of making any post, garbage replies flood in. No where in there did i mention anything about you being higher ranked than me, and really i dgaf. But thanks for playing. Garbage threads get garbage replies. Your idea is ridiculous and unfeasible from a purely practical and technical point of view. You should really have put more thought into how it could possibly work before making a thread. Elitist Jerks >>> Arena Junkies. Good and harsh moderators make the difference, not arbitrary requirements for posting. | ||
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knL
Germany400 Posts
Thats why i dont think you need a "above x points" limitation. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:42 vrok wrote: Elitist Jerks >>> Arena Junkies. Good and harsh moderators make the difference, not arbitrary requirements for posting. I think elitist jerks has a similar thing. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:39 DwmC_Foefen wrote: A lot of ignorant people spout a lot of stupid stuff these days. It's just horrible. People say it's elitist, I say it's common sense. This isn't a democracy. This is TeamLiquid, a forum with a once great big "qualityposts/total number of posts" - ratio. I voted for a 1200+ subforum which everyone can read but only the best can post in. Seems about right. Although... I don't know if it would get used much. I think most progamers chat amongst themselves on MSN or whatever. Lets say that we'd make a forum for 1800+ people only. Because 1800+ people probably think that 1400 players are scrubs. Point is, there is always someone better, and someone will always think that someone else is a noob, no matter his rating. This also happened to Arena Junkies, a sort of elitism within the elitism developed, where 2.4k players were idiots and only 2.8k players knew the game. Then then 2900+ crowd though that 2.8k players were idiots. You see the problem? You cant just say "here's the line from good to bad". I bet i could find a gold player who knows more about the game than me, a diamond player. 100% certain. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
You also will still get retarded discussions from people, as the "post-quality" and trolling can come from any point-total. I have at least talked with 3-4 people who were 1500+ and still think Terran is fine, or even underpowered! So i dunno. We'll still see retarded posts often, just scaled down. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
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Koukalaka
United Kingdom80 Posts
On September 21 2010 05:42 vrok wrote: Garbage threads get garbage replies. Your idea is ridiculous and unfeasible from a purely practical and technical point of view. You should really have put more thought into how it could possibly work before making a thread. Elitist Jerks >>> Arena Junkies. Good and harsh moderators make the difference, not arbitrary requirements for posting. Elitist Jerks is an awful website. Only wannabes visit that website: I was in Ensidia and I didn't visit the website once. | ||
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