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On September 21 2010 23:12 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:06 decemberTV wrote:On September 21 2010 23:03 Gentso wrote:On September 21 2010 23:01 decemberTV wrote:On September 21 2010 22:58 ToastieNL wrote: ^ Where proven fake, IIRC you just pulled the "proven" statement out of your ass. don't carriers already spawn with 4 interceptors? Would someone making up fake patch notes make such a retarded mistake and not double check ? Its more than likely a blizzard employee who hasn't got a clue about carriers wrote the patch notes. Moreover the new overlord speed is EXACTLY the same as queen offcreep. A noob making up fake patch notes would not think of that in a million years. If it's the set of notes I think you're talking about, then the carrier part is more likely to be a translation error since it was translated from english, to russian, and back again  This suggests that you feel like they MAY be legit...am I wrong on that?
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On September 21 2010 23:12 TechDeft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:09 ensis wrote: yuhuuuuuuuu no longer banned!!! sry again to admins
yup, i also dont understand why blizzard is keeping it a secret. perhaps because they dont want people to theorycraft about it though they never played the actual version.
btw. do you also have this feeling that you just do not want to play sc2 right now, because you know, that everything you could learn could just be in vain in some hours?
Any WoW players here know why they want the changes to be a secret. Every F'ing patch that comes along(I quit months ago, bored waiting for Cata) is published, then the community cheers and whines before they ever experience how the changes work together and ACTUALLY affect gameplay. Look at how much speculation came from them posting just a part of the notes. (If it is just a part, and not the whole thing.) I personally believe there is more, because this early there are always little bugs to fix. Things like the 7.1 surround and such from last patch.
If they didn't want us to whine/praise before we played the new patch, why did they release certain bits of info (tank getting nerfed, nerfing zealot/warpgate time, ultralisk nerf)?
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On September 21 2010 23:18 DharmaTurtle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:12 TechDeft wrote:On September 21 2010 23:09 ensis wrote: yuhuuuuuuuu no longer banned!!! sry again to admins
yup, i also dont understand why blizzard is keeping it a secret. perhaps because they dont want people to theorycraft about it though they never played the actual version.
btw. do you also have this feeling that you just do not want to play sc2 right now, because you know, that everything you could learn could just be in vain in some hours?
Any WoW players here know why they want the changes to be a secret. Every F'ing patch that comes along(I quit months ago, bored waiting for Cata) is published, then the community cheers and whines before they ever experience how the changes work together and ACTUALLY affect gameplay. Look at how much speculation came from them posting just a part of the notes. (If it is just a part, and not the whole thing.) I personally believe there is more, because this early there are always little bugs to fix. Things like the 7.1 surround and such from last patch. If they didn't want us to whine/praise before we played the new patch, why did they release certain bits of info (tank getting nerfed, nerfing zealot/warpgate time, ultralisk nerf)? Hrm. Good point. To let us know that they were working on it at least? I don't often say this, but I was off there.
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On September 21 2010 23:12 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:06 decemberTV wrote:On September 21 2010 23:03 Gentso wrote:On September 21 2010 23:01 decemberTV wrote:On September 21 2010 22:58 ToastieNL wrote: ^ Where proven fake, IIRC you just pulled the "proven" statement out of your ass. don't carriers already spawn with 4 interceptors? Would someone making up fake patch notes make such a retarded mistake and not double check ? Its more than likely a blizzard employee who hasn't got a clue about carriers wrote the patch notes. Moreover the new overlord speed is EXACTLY the same as queen offcreep. A noob making up fake patch notes would not think of that in a million years. If it's the set of notes I think you're talking about, then the carrier part is more likely to be a translation error since it was translated from english, to russian, and back again  in the russian source originally posted it was simply a copy paste in english, without translation.
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On September 21 2010 23:18 DharmaTurtle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:12 TechDeft wrote:On September 21 2010 23:09 ensis wrote: yuhuuuuuuuu no longer banned!!! sry again to admins
yup, i also dont understand why blizzard is keeping it a secret. perhaps because they dont want people to theorycraft about it though they never played the actual version.
btw. do you also have this feeling that you just do not want to play sc2 right now, because you know, that everything you could learn could just be in vain in some hours?
Any WoW players here know why they want the changes to be a secret. Every F'ing patch that comes along(I quit months ago, bored waiting for Cata) is published, then the community cheers and whines before they ever experience how the changes work together and ACTUALLY affect gameplay. Look at how much speculation came from them posting just a part of the notes. (If it is just a part, and not the whole thing.) I personally believe there is more, because this early there are always little bugs to fix. Things like the 7.1 surround and such from last patch. If they didn't want us to whine/praise before we played the new patch, why did they release certain bits of info (tank getting nerfed, nerfing zealot/warpgate time, ultralisk nerf)? To keep the players informed that they actually know some balance is needed and on the same time to feel the response of the community about it.. Since wow example was brought to the discussion they do this all the time there, they say their intentions, ppl whine a bit, then some "unconfirmed patch notes" appear in some site, ppl whine and discuss a bit more, then finally the end result may or may not vary accordingly.
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If they didn't want us to whine/praise before we played the new patch, why did they release certain bits of info (tank getting nerfed, nerfing zealot/warpgate time, ultralisk nerf)?
Perhaps blizzard did want some type of feedback on these numbers. The only thing they released that wasnt a number (and therefore something that people can get a sense of in game before using. Ie: okay in the future this zealot will pop out 5 seconds later, am i prepared to deal with that?) is the ultra headbutt being removed. You can get a feel for the rest, tanks not doing quite as much damage to non-armored units as well as the damage nerfs to bcs and ultras. If the overlord creep thing and movement turns out to be true, noone has any idea what that will do to gameplay until they actually use it. (I have some pretty sweet ideas in mind but i am theory crafting )
Edit: random typos and format
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On September 21 2010 23:20 TechDeft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:18 DharmaTurtle wrote:On September 21 2010 23:12 TechDeft wrote:On September 21 2010 23:09 ensis wrote: yuhuuuuuuuu no longer banned!!! sry again to admins
yup, i also dont understand why blizzard is keeping it a secret. perhaps because they dont want people to theorycraft about it though they never played the actual version.
btw. do you also have this feeling that you just do not want to play sc2 right now, because you know, that everything you could learn could just be in vain in some hours?
Any WoW players here know why they want the changes to be a secret. Every F'ing patch that comes along(I quit months ago, bored waiting for Cata) is published, then the community cheers and whines before they ever experience how the changes work together and ACTUALLY affect gameplay. Look at how much speculation came from them posting just a part of the notes. (If it is just a part, and not the whole thing.) I personally believe there is more, because this early there are always little bugs to fix. Things like the 7.1 surround and such from last patch. If they didn't want us to whine/praise before we played the new patch, why did they release certain bits of info (tank getting nerfed, nerfing zealot/warpgate time, ultralisk nerf)? Hrm. Good point. To let us know that they were working on it at least? I don't often say this, but I was off there.
Damage control. They want to try and shut up the "TERRAN IS IMBA!!!" and "OMG I'M BRONZE AND PROXY ZEALOTS ARE TOO STRONG" people (which did not work in the least).
That's just a guess but I am sure they were about sick of hearing how much Terran is imba about as much as every other non-Zerg player out there.
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The one time I admit I think I'm wrong, and everyone agrees with me! Haha. Yea, that was my thought cup.diam, that they just wanted to stop the talk. Keep the unhappy people who check the interwebz happy knowing it's "gonna get better."
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Pretty excited for this patch today! Us servers ftw )
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I wonder how/if this patch will affect the single player caimpaign and achievements.
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Oh God it was a hack fest yesterday night, lost 9 games and half of them i got hacked/cheesed (7 barrack reaper proxy into maurader). WTF is going on...Ppl savoring the last moment before patch? lol
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Blizzard released some patch notes early so that they can prod people to start making "fake" patch notes and steal them as their own.
Just kidding, I hope the mule/chrono nerf is true though.
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On September 21 2010 23:28 FreeZEternal wrote: Oh God it was a hack fest yesterday night, lost 9 games and half of them i got hacked/cheesed (7 barrack reaper proxy into maurader). WTF is going on...Ppl savoring the last moment before patch? lol If you are getting hacked, I don't know why you are excited about the patch. I don't recall seeing any updates to Warden included. Chances are they weren't hacking anyway.
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On September 21 2010 23:28 FreeZEternal wrote: Oh God it was a hack fest yesterday night, lost 9 games and half of them i got hacked/cheesed (7 barrack reaper proxy into maurader). WTF is going on...Ppl savoring the last moment before patch? lol hacked?!
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On September 21 2010 23:28 FreeZEternal wrote: Oh God it was a hack fest yesterday night, lost 9 games and half of them i got hacked/cheesed (7 barrack reaper proxy into maurader). WTF is going on...Ppl savoring the last moment before patch? lol
Replay or it didn't happen.
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Yup map hacked, freaking 4 player map, game starts and the probe comes directly to my main (cross positions in Kulas) and 2 proxy gates -.-;;;;; Happened to me more than twice...and more games where ppl never scout-.-;;
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On September 21 2010 23:14 TechDeft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:12 Plexa wrote:On September 21 2010 23:06 decemberTV wrote:On September 21 2010 23:03 Gentso wrote:On September 21 2010 23:01 decemberTV wrote:On September 21 2010 22:58 ToastieNL wrote: ^ Where proven fake, IIRC you just pulled the "proven" statement out of your ass. don't carriers already spawn with 4 interceptors? Would someone making up fake patch notes make such a retarded mistake and not double check ? Its more than likely a blizzard employee who hasn't got a clue about carriers wrote the patch notes. Moreover the new overlord speed is EXACTLY the same as queen offcreep. A noob making up fake patch notes would not think of that in a million years. If it's the set of notes I think you're talking about, then the carrier part is more likely to be a translation error since it was translated from english, to russian, and back again  This suggests that you feel like they MAY be legit...am I wrong on that? I don't know if they're legit, I hope they are though.
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On September 21 2010 23:20 TechDeft wrote: Hrm. Good point. To let us know that they were working on it at least? I don't often say this, but I was off there.
just releasing a part of the stuff is terrible - they did that mistake once in wc3, I had really hoped they would've learned from that
the problem is, that now parts of the community think that blizz doesn't intend to fix other stuff and cry even harder about marauders, banshees, mules, void rays or whatever
later in wc3 blizz made the best approach there is: once somebody made a reasonable complaint about anything that was seemingly imbalanced, they responded by something like "we are aware that xyz is an issue and are looking into it" - even if they didn't change anything about it later, it shut up the whiners because they thought blizz was working on it; in fact, they should've posted something like "we are also looking in the issue of marauders being strong vs protoss, early charged up void rays being game deciding" etc. this could've spared us lots of balance-whine-threads even if the patch wouldn't change any of this stuff
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On September 21 2010 23:28 FreeZEternal wrote: Oh God it was a hack fest yesterday night, lost 9 games and half of them i got hacked/cheesed (7 barrack reaper proxy into maurader). WTF is going on...Ppl savoring the last moment before patch? lol
9 really means 2 in TL-speak.
And the 7 rax was probably standard*, but you're over-exaggerating because the strategy is BS.
***By standard I guess I mean not a map hack.
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On September 21 2010 23:32 thelok wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 23:28 FreeZEternal wrote: Oh God it was a hack fest yesterday night, lost 9 games and half of them i got hacked/cheesed (7 barrack reaper proxy into maurader). WTF is going on...Ppl savoring the last moment before patch? lol Replay or it didn't happen.
http://www.mediafire.com/?87jhuiuh5hzd8vc
Here's 1 whit map hack,
whit player cam you see him looking at my base...
He send all is unit on my hidden canal nydus before finnish it lol, and clicking on it in the dark!
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