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Otakusan
United States59 Posts
On September 14 2010 06:04 debasers wrote: Did someone tested if it makes a big diference with mules? It makes the mule return 1 more trip of minerals (30) in some cases, if you have the multitasking to perform it. | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
On September 14 2010 05:21 Sprouter wrote: "noobs" want it removed because it's unnecessary, "pros" want it to stay to add a gap to 'skill'. yeah why not just get rid of unlimited unit group selection, multiple building selection, autocast, and automining. awww that would be awesome! | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
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Puosu
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MadCobra
Germany12 Posts
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101TFP
420 Posts
On September 14 2010 06:10 Puosu wrote: This is really an interesting find and it's great to be reminded that SC2 is still extremely young and there's a lot to be found out. Blizzard will have a difficult problem on their hands now that they either have to consider it a bug and fix it or call it a feature. I personally would love it to stay in the game, but can definitely see why it would take away from the casual audience. please someone explain to me how the casual audience will be affected by this. either i don't get it or casuals suddenly stopped making small mistakes all over the game which all on themselves would negate the effect of mineral boosting.. | ||
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Warp
United States166 Posts
I am the first vote. | ||
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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
Video Link resource_test.SC2Map Hope this helps further the development! | ||
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Nu11
Canada167 Posts
On September 14 2010 03:43 darthcaesar wrote: I already saw Trump using this trick on his stream. I wonder how widespread it shall become. heh, trump should probably learn to not be supply blocked and have idle scvs for half the game before he works on this. Then again he does play terran. | ||
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VERMM
United States39 Posts
Start with Method 3 when the game starts then continue with Method 1 or 2 | ||
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ltortoise
633 Posts
On September 14 2010 05:01 kickinhead wrote: OMG - only lazy noobs want this patched away! I'd rly hate blizz if this gets removed - it's just a very slight advantage for rly good players and hours after it being discovered, noobs want it removed.... So you are calling HuK a noob? How about Nazgul, is he a noob too? | ||
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ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
PS: i thought the OP also deserves credit for an awesome 1st post, and not trying to name it after himself haha | ||
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Goggalor
United States310 Posts
On September 14 2010 06:56 SilverPotato wrote: Interesting test! Taking advantage of it is way beyond me, but it is kind of neat to know.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFGP8djMFpY Video Link resource_test.SC2Map Hope this helps further the development! | ||
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VERMM
United States39 Posts
If you want to talk about getting this removed then go to: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627977888?page=1#4 Anyways for the rest of this thread I think it would be better if we discussed what we can do with this technique and what it means. Maybe find out more productive ways to use this trick and how it changes certain build orders/openings. Again, I feel we should use this thread to produce and discuss results rather than debating whether it should exist or not. Leave that to the official battle.net thread posted above. You have the right to keep talking about it but I ask you to use that same energy and put it somewhere where it may actually change things. | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
On September 14 2010 06:52 Warp wrote: Who agrees that this technique should not be called "Mineral Boosting" but "Sockfolding"? I am the first vote. There's a poll on this with several hundred votes a few pages back... | ||
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bbsss
Netherlands163 Posts
On September 14 2010 06:56 SilverPotato wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFGP8djMFpY Video Link resource_test.SC2Map Hope this helps further the development! Have you taken into consideration that there might be a small difference in units from patch to cc? To test this you would have to see the difference between the test you made a video of and the same thing with the mineral boosting trick since that would be cutting the scv idle time after collected minerals to zero? | ||
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SilverPotato
United States560 Posts
On September 14 2010 07:27 bbsss wrote: Have you taken into consideration that there might be a small difference in units from patch to cc? To test this you would have to see the difference between the test you made a video of and the same thing with the mineral boosting trick since that would be cutting the scv idle time after collected minerals to zero? Its the exact same travel distance between each patch and CC | ||
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Half
United States2554 Posts
On September 14 2010 04:52 Drunken.Jedi wrote: Don't see why this would be the case. Sure, harassing with a probe will be much harder when you're also "mineral boosting", but if your opponent is mineral boosting as well, he will also have a harder time fending off your probe. See, and this is just one of the many reasons how awesome this is. It creates a huge dynamic in first minute of the game. Do you micro scout or macro workers? How long do you keep it up for? How long can you keep it up for? What if the opponent chose to harass your workers instead of macroing? How ill you respond? I don't understand how this could be considered fun for anyone. The game would have a higher skill cap and require even more APM if automining was removed entirely and you had to manually command each worker to collect and then return resources - would TL be supportive of that? I probably won't play SC for too much longer, but I expect to be watching for a long time if the SC2 scene stays around as long as BW, and I'd rather the future players practice something more useful and entertaining than maintaining this skill as long as possible. Because that wouldn't be balanced. The cost of not mining at all would always outweigh walling off and defending while macroing. That isn't a decision. It results in the game moving towards EXTREMELY passive play. This does present a choice because its an incredibly small bonus, and increases the entertainment value of a section of the game that was mind numbing boring anyway (very early game) "noobs" want it removed because it's unnecessary, "pros" want it to stay to add a gap to 'skill'. yeah why not just get rid of unlimited unit group selection, multiple building selection, autocast, and automining. Because that requires blizzard action, and that stratifies skill levels too much, not to mention breaks what the average consumer expects in an RTS nowadays. Metagame developments like this can have almost NO impact on the bronze, silver, gold, and lower diamond leagues while still challenging higher diamond players for more avenues of skill development, | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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