EPTJuly officially announces his move to Starcraft 2 - Page 4
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jungsu
United States279 Posts
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Luvz
Norway356 Posts
All the people Thinking "ohh hes not that good". give me a break hes insane and will most likeley dominate the scene within a month or two if not from the start, and this is HUGE for sc2 aswell, seeing as if high profiled players like this/nada/boxer ect "according to the rumours" come over. im posetive ul atleast see a increase of 30-40% of people playing in Korea. these guys are legends and evryone that bashes Him/them should get a ban. + Show Spoiler + I told this to my sister, and it looked like she pissed herself | ||
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FindingPride
United States1001 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:46 deafhobbit wrote: Sc2 - Where former BW pro gamer retire after they can't keep up with a more APM intensive game. As someone who never wants pro BW to die, this seems fine. Sc2 is the senior PGA of esports - a place where we can see our former hero's now past their prime still duke it out, while the young bucks fight it out in a more skill-intense league. In the absence of a Sc2 proleague, though, i don't see Sc2 replacing BW as the main esport event in Korea. The presence of Proleague allows for a much larger pool of players to make a living playing the game, and also creates a larger source of potential innovation. Remember, even if July was the first to truly master modern muta micro in BW, it was Shark, a player who never really rose above mediocre, who discovered it. In the absence of a guaranteed source of income, there will be a smaller pool of Sc2 "pro's" (defined as people who make a living from playing the game) and an overall lower level of play (since people who have to work for a living can't spend 14 hrs a day improving their mechanics and devising new strategies). It also creates a rather perverse "race to the top" where the better the level of play gets, the less true "progamers" there will be. Higher level play = more work required to win tournaments = lower cost/benefit ratio for trying to stay at the level of skill needed to be a contender for tournament winner. For example, if all of a sudden Flash, Jaedong, Fantasy, and all the current usual suspects for making it far into individual leagues in BW were to switch, it would become very hard for people like Idra or July to play Sc2 professionally. Once they caught up on the strategy and game specific mechanics, the generally higher level of skill found in high level BW players would make it increasingly hard for anyone else to compete, and in the absence of proleauge like salaries, even players like Effort, Stork (ie, high level players who CAN beat the best players in the world, but can't do so consistently) would be driven from the scene. In conclusion, until Sc2 gets a proleague, be glad that only progamers too old or unskilled to keep up with high level BW have switched. lol rly? sc2 gonna have people just as good as jaedong and flash if not better. We may not see the names now. but theres gonna be a larger pool of players trying to go pro at sc2 and playing just as much as any bwpro | ||
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:25 Milkis wrote: He's not joining Prime -- read the article I did :s He revealed that he will be joining a Starcraft 2 team July will be joining a new Starcraft 2 team I know Prime is already a well known team but it's not very old yet. They weren't around for BW, right? Seeing as he was playing as FantaPrime, I assumed he would go to Prime... Good news though, more Pro-Teams being created can only be good for the game. | ||
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billyX333
United States1360 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:15 Vz0 wrote: 1500 diamond, about right. I just LoL at all those retards that were like, OMG WHEN KOREAN PRO SWITCH OVER, ITS GG for NA/EU. No its not. Shutup. Koreans are human like the rest of the world. There are certain players that are gifted such as (perhaps) Flash and Jaedong. But thats flash and jaedong. THAT IS NOT ALL KOREAN PLAYERS. People mix the two up. User was temp banned for this post. holy shit perm ban this scrub (again) he constantly spouts blasphemous flames directed towards the BW legends + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2010 19:54 virgozero wrote: really goes to show you your knowledge of starcraft. 1 unit can make the world of difference. 1 marauder can change a fight 1 fight can change a game 1 game can change a tournament 1 tournament can change a player you don't always need to roflstomp someone to beat them, you just have to be beat them. hell maybe nada thinks the build is fine, what do i know, i am just spewing the facts, hate me or love me, i dont care. as for all the guys saying nada only played 10 games/10days/10whatever SOURCE? right, so stfu tyvm  User was warned for this post User was banned for this post. look at this shit i know the mods know who he is but he constantly stirs up shit he obviously doesnt realize that nada and july have not been playing since phase 1 like many of us and they've been playing on a much much harder server for the record: july is 6th highest ranked zerg on the korean server and im 99% sure each one above him has far more experience | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:49 Grobyc wrote: Actually, July has massive APM. Had well around 500(sometimes 600) in his peak, so I don't think speed is the problem. Maybe, but where's he at now? Mechanics seem the big area where younger players have an advantage over older players, whether in terms of strict APM or as a more broadly defined concept. Nothing prevents older players from adapting their strategies to fit what is working currently, and we frequently see them do just that, which would seem to suggest that that the reason why most players start to fall off as they age is a difference in mechanical skill, rather than in strategy. The fact of the matter is that whatever his APM may be, July hasn't been doing well of late in BW, a quick look over his recent games shows almost no proleague games and poor starleague results, with only 15 games in 2010 listed in TLPD. He's clearly playing worse than top and even mid tier BW players, and thus switched to a game where the general level of mechanical skill is lower. | ||
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Blackhawk13
United States442 Posts
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lindn
Sweden833 Posts
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:55 FindingPride wrote: lol rly? sc2 gonna have people just as good as jaedong and flash if not better. We may not see the names now. but theres gonna be a larger pool of players trying to go pro at sc2 and playing just as much as any bwpro So, did you not read the part about how the absence of a Sc2 proleague makes this untrue, or do you just think we can all read your thoughts and understand why you think this? No matter how many people are playing Sc2, in the absence of salaries for progamers few people can practice as much as current BW pros. | ||
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Trickityhouses
United States41 Posts
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:59 deafhobbit wrote: Maybe, but where's he at now? Mechanics seem the big area where younger players have an advantage over older players, whether in terms of strict APM or more broadly defined mechanics in general. Nothing prevents older players from adapting their strategies to fit what is working currently, and we frequently see them do just that, which would seem to suggest that that the reason why most players start to fall off as they age is a difference in mechanical skill, rather than in strategy. The fact of the matter is that whatever his APM may be, July hasn't been doing well of late in BW, a quick look over his recent games shows almost no proleague games and poor starleague results, with only 15 games in 2010 listed in TLPD. He's clearly playing worse than top and even mid tier BW players, and thus switched to a game where the general level of mechanical skill is lower. In one of the replays casted of him he had an average of over 350APM, and that's in SC2's fastest speed terms | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
On September 10 2010 15:03 Kantutan wrote: In one of the replays casted of him he had an average of over 350APM, and that's in SC2's fastest speed terms ...and far from exceptional for BW pro's. My point stands. | ||
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RedLuck
Canada253 Posts
Love the news. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:55 FindingPride wrote: lol rly? sc2 gonna have people just as good as jaedong and flash if not better. We may not see the names now. but theres gonna be a larger pool of players trying to go pro at sc2 and playing just as much as any bwpro I wouldn't respond to him if I were you. He'll enjoy it. I for one am positively thrilled to see JulyZerg doing anything other than sitting on the bench. I love this guy. | ||
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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StorrZerg
United States13921 Posts
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Elevators
United States56 Posts
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
 RainBOw,  sigamari & Silver_kr or he just joins 'em ?? | ||
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