EPTJuly officially announces his move to Starcraft 2 - Page 3
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:15 Vz0 wrote: 1500 diamond, about right. I just LoL at all those retards that were like, OMG WHEN KOREAN PRO SWITCH OVER, ITS GG for NA/EU. No its not. Shutup. Koreans are human like the rest of the world. There are certain players that are gifted such as (perhaps) Flash and Jaedong. But thats flash and jaedong. THAT IS NOT ALL KOREAN PLAYERS. People mix the two up. The fact that you don't consider JulyZerg gifted shows your lack of knowledge. If all the best Koreans switched over it would be very difficult for any foreigner to compete. We're already seeing low-level pros switching and owning it up (just look at Tester's games). If the top pros switched (which they won't because they receive a nice paycheck from their teams that are tied to KESPA) the SC2 tourneys would look very similar to the SC:BW tourneys as far as personnel. There might be one or two foreigners who could compete at that level, like Grrr..., Elky and Legionnaire did back in the earlier days of SC:BW, but they would be far and few between. | ||
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
That might really be the case for pro-gamers. In order to differentiate yourself, you need to multi-task and do things even better than anyone else. If the delta between really good and average is slim, the really good need to work a lot harder in order to win games regularly. An example would hypothetically be flash going to SC2. In order for flash to maintain a 70% win rate, he needs to work harder than ever since the mechanics are easier. In SC2, it will be hard for flash to win 70% of his games against someone like morrow even though we know that Flash is probably better than morrow in multi-tasking. In SC1, morrow probably won't take one game in 1000. So it will be harder for the more skilled to dominate. | ||
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zak
Korea (South)1009 Posts
lol he just started but he is already 1500 level diamond.... | ||
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QuothTheRaven
United States5524 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
he plays zerg. | ||
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cayore
Australia3 Posts
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J7S
Brazil179 Posts
Julyzerg is so good that people name a month after him. Man, genius! Lol'd hard. | ||
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Gunman_csz
United Arab Emirates492 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2338 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:40 zak wrote: never heard of this guy really, can someone tell me if he is good? What is a top star progamer and who are the other three? lol he just started but he is already 1500 level diamond.... I can't tell if you're trolling or not...  | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
STX to SKT for me. | ||
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GulpyBlinkeyes
United States1449 Posts
I had to laugh when he mentioned his division and points though just because I couldn't help but imagine him posting in the strategy forums. "I think SC2 is more difficult than BW. 1500 diamond zerg, btw." | ||
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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
As someone who never wants pro BW to die, this seems fine. Sc2 is the senior PGA of esports - a place where we can see our former hero's now past their prime still duke it out, while the young bucks fight it out in a more skill-intense league. In the absence of a Sc2 proleague, though, i don't see Sc2 replacing BW as the main esport event in Korea. The presence of Proleague allows for a much larger pool of players to make a living playing the game, and also creates a larger source of potential innovation. Remember, even if July was the first to truly master modern muta micro in BW, it was Shark, a player who never really rose above mediocre, who discovered it. In the absence of a guaranteed source of income, there will be a smaller pool of Sc2 "pro's" (defined as people who make a living from playing the game) and an overall lower level of play (since people who have to work for a living can't spend 14 hrs a day improving their mechanics and devising new strategies). It also creates a rather perverse "race to the top" where the better the level of play gets, the less true "progamers" there will be. Higher level play = more work required to win tournaments = lower cost/benefit ratio for trying to stay at the level of skill needed to be a contender for tournament winner. For example, if all of a sudden Flash, Jaedong, Fantasy, and all the current usual suspects for making it far into individual leagues in BW were to switch, it would become very hard for people like Idra or July to play Sc2 professionally. Once they caught up on the strategy and game specific mechanics, the generally higher level of skill found in high level BW players would make it increasingly hard for anyone else to compete, and in the absence of proleauge like salaries, even players like Effort, Stork (ie, high level players who CAN beat the best players in the world, but can't do so consistently) would be driven from the scene. In conclusion, until Sc2 gets a proleague, be glad that only progamers too old or unskilled to keep up with high level BW have switched. | ||
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
Regarding his playing in the TG Sambo-Intel SC2 Open Season 2, he said that "My goal obviously is to win", and added a confident remark, saying that "I've been watching the players who has passed the preliminaries of Season 1, and I thought I could have definitely won" Doesn't looks like July is impressed with the newbs on the current GSL rofl. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:46 deafhobbit wrote: Sc2 - Where former BW pro gamer retire after they can't keep up with a more APM intensive game. Actually, July has massive APM. Had well around 500(sometimes 600) in his peak, so I don't think speed is the problem. | ||
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ddod
Bulgaria144 Posts
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Samhax
1054 Posts
Edit: btw much love for this pic lol, FatZerg inc! | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
On September 10 2010 14:40 zak wrote: never heard of this guy really, can someone tell me if he is good? What is a top star progamer and who are the other three? lol he just started but he is already 1500 level diamond.... I wouldn't call 900 ladder games just starting. | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
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