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On September 02 2010 02:19 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 01:12 smileyyy wrote:On September 02 2010 01:09 awesomoecalypse wrote:I can see Blizzard's hand in this. Gom never did this kind of thing before. I guess it's in their contract with Blizz. Blizz MADE them do it. Yes, because something bad has happened related to Starcraft, is MUST be Blizzard's fault. We have no evidence or rationale for thinking this, but that doesn't matter, because its Blizzard so EVERYTHING is their fault! Please. If you're going to make accusations like that, you're gonna have to provide some more evidence than "Blizzard is teh Satan!!1!" On the subject of the thread... No, no I will definitely NOT be paying that. And it strikes me as a poor business decision--why not offer up a lower quality stream, probably with ads, for free or at a significantly cheaper price point, then offer premium service with hd and no ads for those who are willing to pay? Well if they can sell some shity ponny for 25 or some stupid mappack for 15$. Why shouldnt they try to charge 20$ for a stream ?  . I dont like this at all and I will never pay money for this lol. So this is the shit why theyre killing PL and BW off ? rofl. Haven fun trying. Except the money goes to GOM, not Blizzard. Unless Blizzard is getting a significant cut of that $20, Blizzard's best interest would be for these streams to be free, because it provides more advertising for SC2. And I'm sure they'd rather have people buying $60 copies of SC2 rather than get a $5 or $10 cut (if they'd even get that much) from each stream buyer.
You don't know that. In fact the reason the price is so exobitant may be because Blizz takes a huge cut.
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On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard?
My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash.
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Wow that pricing is a slap in the face. Some people are saying they see some business man coming up with this pricing but let me tell you something he has no idea what he's doing. Whoever it is has no clue how to come up with pricing for something like this, not to mention any idea of how gamers like to consume products off the internet. Its sad really how far off the mark they were given who their consumers are.
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Let me get this straight.
--There will be a free LQ live stream, yes?
--You can't watch previous VOD's without paying?
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On September 02 2010 02:26 Gentso wrote:
Let me get this straight.
--There will be a free LQ live stream, yes?
--You can't watch previous VOD's without paying?
There is no free stream, there are no free vods. Stream is $20, vods are $30
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On September 02 2010 02:26 Gentso wrote:
Let me get this straight.
--There will be a free LQ live stream, yes?
--You can't watch previous VOD's without paying?
No to both. OGN will be watchable for free, but it won't be in English.
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lol no1's going to buy this from TL
it will jsut get re-streamed anyways
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On September 02 2010 02:27 floor exercise wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 02:26 Gentso wrote:
Let me get this straight.
--There will be a free LQ live stream, yes?
--You can't watch previous VOD's without paying?
There is no free stream, there are no free vods. Stream is $20, vods are $30
LOL wtf.. so that standard streaming live thing isn't free WTF
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No way I'm paying such a ridiculous price just for the privilege of watching English casted GSL. I'll watch the Korean stream if I catch it at all.
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On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash.
Yes we can, because the growth of e-sports shouldn't be driven by gouging prices from a niche audience. That isn't growth, thats exploitation.
I'll be watching a restream in Korean. :/.
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On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash.
We want E-sports to succeed but we don't want to be ripped off... You can surely understand that this will surely make them less money because the majority of there audience isn't willing to pay those prices.
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On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash.
there is a difference between supporting e-sports and paying $20 - $30 for a match.
ie. when we watched HDH tournament on youtube, the sheer number of viewers prompted the sponsor to increase the prize pool by $1k. that was support.
but with GOM, they are being unrealistic.
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On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash.
You hypocrites say you want Blizzard to crush KeSPA and then not pony up the cash.
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On September 02 2010 02:33 dybydx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash. there is a difference between supporting e-sports and paying $20 - $30 for a match. ie. when we watched HDH tournament on youtube, the sheer number of viewers prompted the sponsor to increase the prize pool by $1k. that was support. but with GOM, they are being unrealistic.
It's 20-30 dollars for a SEASON. Stop knowingly spreading misinformation because you're a whiny cheapskate.
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Poor Tastosis, no one will hear their commentary since we'll all be watching the OGN streams. Hopefully the horrific failure of this pricing scheme will force GOM to drop this shit as soon as they realize no one is biting.
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On September 02 2010 02:35 junkacc wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash. You hypocrites say you want Blizzard to crush KeSPA and then not pony up the cash.
For all the other sports I enjoy I support it just by watching it for free.
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On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash.
Esports' growth rests on the audience of those who don't own the game--because if the only people who ever were spectators were people who owned the game, we'd never see growth on the level of SC1. That type of accessibility is possible through free spectating--so that those who have no experience with the game can try the experience without risk. Without even so much as an option for free spectating, this has no chance of drawing new spectators. It's just unreasonable to expect people to pay to see a game for which they have no assurance of quality.
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On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash.
Without quality assurance I'm not paying a dollar. How do I know the stream wont absolutely suck?
At least if they had a free LQ stream i'd likely buy the HQ stream just to support them. Money isn't inherently the issue for me but I like to know what I'm buying.
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On September 02 2010 02:36 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2010 02:35 junkacc wrote:On September 02 2010 02:25 0neder wrote:On September 01 2010 22:48 0neder wrote:
MAYBE if you could KEEP the VODs. wtf are you doing Blizzard? My point on keeping VODs stands, but you hypocrites can't say you want e-sports to succeed and then not pony up the cash. You hypocrites say you want Blizzard to crush KeSPA and then not pony up the cash. For all the other sports I enjoy I support it just by watching it for free.
In those other sports, if you want to watch them you have to pay, unless you watch it illegally. So you can't really compare them.
As many have said for SC2 atm, i can watch a free stream of Tournaments i.e. the GO4SC2 going on right now or watch a free stream of MLG and ESL. This difference is i can pay for HD if i want to. Which as others have said i feel far more willing to do that. Rather than GomTV forcing us to pay stupid prices for a new service with no quality guarantee
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