MLG Raleigh Ultimate Feedback Thread - Page 11

Midj

Canada253 Posts

August 29 2010 19:38 GMT

#201

I had some issues with the the stream, it would cut off the edges. Many other users who were using a 16:10 aspect ratio had the same issues. It cuts off some of the tabs and almost a third of the minimap.

Also, I've read that the crowd was under-mic'd(or not at all) and had no commentary from their speakers because the players were like right beside the spectator zone.

On top of that, get those guys some chairs! I know SC2 isn't a main event, but some seating would of been nice.

Beren

United States514 Posts

August 29 2010 19:42 GMT

#202

The quality of the stream was acceptable but for 10 dollars for two days (3 technically) it wasn't very good. Also if I am paying 10 dollars for so so quality why do I have to watch commercials as well? I'd be interested to see some statistics of how much of the stream was commercials. Why not stick the free stream with commercials and we get interviews or other content when they have commercials?

I'm just asking for more content for those paying for the service. The quality does not make up for the money (yes ill still purchase it).

neo_sporin

United States516 Posts

August 29 2010 19:52 GMT

#203

I was at MLG raleigh, my majorist complaint was on night 1 it was impossible to hear the commentary. Originally i thoerized they didnt want the players to be able to hear, but they upgraded the audio of the SC2 area on day 2 which disproves that theory.

I dont think you can really blame the race skew on the tournament, Blizzard has set up a game where Terran is favored but toss tend to do better at higher levels. Hopefully they reach balance ASAP though to see some diversity in the later rounds.

Reborn8u

United States1761 Posts

August 29 2010 19:56 GMT

#204

Thought MLG was the best covered most entertaining Starcraft 2 event yet! Would have liked to seen some of the games that weren't shown. I WAS EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE FINALS WERE NOT ON THE MAIN STAGE LIKE HALO! I kind of felt like it was an insult to deny them the exposure and grandeur they deserve. They need to have sound booths like in Korean Esports, and play in front of a huge crowd.

Hope you up the stakes for it in the future as well. These guys need bigger prize pools to accommodate being full time pro gamers. Thought the stream was great. Hope you get more computers setup so the players don't have to switch every game. It was kind of annoying to have such long breaks in between matches. One last thing, the commercials were very repetitive. Those Jack Link Bigfoot commercials are great but there are like 6 of them that are all funny, yet you kept showing the same one.

Kisra

United Kingdom466 Posts

August 29 2010 20:05 GMT

#205

The stream was great, the casting was great, everything on that side of things was very smooth. One or two things did bug me a little during it - first and foremost not seeing the brackets very often. I'd like to have more of an overview more frequently, otherwise it just feels like random games. I'd also like to see the players and the crowd a bit more at their PCs, or it just feels a bit like a regular LAN.

Waiting for players to set up and swap PCs all the time was a bit troublesome, too, it seems

Synk

United States297 Posts

August 29 2010 20:07 GMT

#206

I thought the coverage was very well done, the map breakdown movies were also a nice touch for any new comers. It was unfortunate the semi finals and finals were dominated by Protoss but theres nothing you guys could have done about that, just the nature of the game. Day9 and Jp definitely made me laugh out loud more than once, thanks for that.

One complaint I have is why in the world are the casters having to setup the lobby's, that seemed like a big distraction for you guys in mid cast. Maybe in the future MLG can set you guys up with some kind of tech guy who handles creating the games and everything and you guys just have a live video feed in front of you. Or maybe you had that, but it definitely looked like you were getting distracted from the cast between games trying to set something up on the computer.

BondGamer

61 Posts

August 29 2010 20:12 GMT

#207

On August 29 2010 23:15 vyyye wrote:2: Seeing the players during the game was nifty and I definitely liked that, but being unable to see the upgrades was a bit 'meh'. It's a nitpick really, but if the player video covered the unit portraits we would be able to see the upgrades and the player.

Yes, do this. Also there is room on each side of the building/unit select bar depending on what resolution you use. This could be used for bracket updates and such.

xBillehx

United States1289 Posts

August 29 2010 20:13 GMT

#208

I think it was pretty nice for a first event. My main suggestion for future ones is to time out games so theres a lot less downtime and you can slide over to another matchup after finishing the current. I'm sure there were a TON of really good games we all missed. Hopefully the SC2 stream was successful enough to extend it over the rest of the days if that helps for getting more games casted.

On that note, I'm really curious about how successful Starcraft 2 was for MLG? How many viewers for the stream?

HDstarcraft

United States577 Posts

August 29 2010 20:18 GMT

#209

I guess nobody took the joke when i said i only played 1 game a week.

Thanks for the great feedback though! For reference though I mostly play cg in house games.

Bradford

United States8 Posts

August 29 2010 20:19 GMT

#210

Forgive me if something like this has been suggested already; I haven't read all 10 pages.

I think it's really cool that unknown local players get a chance to compete with the best and make a name for themselves. Then again, I'm the sort of guy who likes to root for the underdog.

The problem is that the commentators (and consequently the viewers) often didn't seem to know anything about these new players. Before the opening rounds we even had to speculate about their race choices.

My suggestion is to have all the participants fill out a sort of info sheet. It should ask things like where they're from, what gaming background they have, and what race they play. It'd also be nice to have each player share a bit of personal, non-Starcraft-related trivia. For instance, an interesting hobby or an amusing anecdote.

Pass all this information on to the casters so that instead of, "we don't know who this guy is," they can say, "and here we have So-and-so, a Terran player from California. When So-and-so isn't playing Starcraft 2, he likes to climb mountains." Oh cool, now we have an actual person attached to that name.

rackdude

United States882 Posts

August 29 2010 20:28 GMT

#211

You just need to be more professional to be more mainstream. I tried getting some friends to watch it. They laughed at Day9's half suit, people sitting on the floor, everyone wearing a hoodie and such. Make people have some kind of team uniform, dress up, look nice, have cut screens so the downtime doesn't show a floor of nerds (not a derogatory term) walking around, could even put a few commercials in. Maybe play some replays of past games or some greatest moments videos in between. Player statistics and map statistics are great too!

JUST PLEASE MAKE IT MORE PROFESSIONAL! It seemed like it was just a few people playing a game and the tournament/streaming part was an after thought.

Side Note: Loved the map previews. Every single one of my friends were impressed. That seemed professional.

PS: Look at the Korean Proleague format. Lets get some SC2 teams and have a league format so we can constantly watch games in a professional manner.

All in all, I loved it, but to really get it to grow, you have to be more professional about it. You and the players. Right now it seems too "hard-core SC2er" to the point that it's tough to get a gamer into it.

huameng

United States1133 Posts

August 29 2010 20:30 GMT

#212

To add to what Bradford said, check out the pregame introductions for TSL2. They have player introductions, with sweet art, stats, and a small player bio. They have map introductions and stats, and they have the bracket to show who each player had to beat. That might be a little excessive, considering TSL was played once a week and MLG pretty much continuously, but it's hopefully doable for the WBF, LBF, and grand finals. Something to strive for, at least.

rackdude

United States882 Posts

August 29 2010 20:32 GMT

#213

On August 30 2010 05:30 huameng wrote:
To add to what Bradford said, check out the pregame introductions for TSL2. They have player introductions, with sweet art, stats, and a small player bio. They have map introductions and stats, and they have the bracket to show who each player had to beat. That might be a little excessive, considering TSL was played once a week and MLG pretty much continuously, but it's hopefully doable for the WBF, LBF, and grand finals. Something to strive for, at least.

Exactly. This made it easy for my friends to watch the TSL, but for MLG they were just like "who's that?" Day9 helped but you could help him out a bit. And, these added touches make it look legit and professional.

Risen

United States7927 Posts

August 29 2010 20:41 GMT

#214

1) Drop HD at the very least, get Husky a suit I guess. It's just very annoying because if you're really trying to get SC2 to become accepted within the gaming community these two just don't seem to be the way to do it. Who admits to only playing one game a week ON THE STREAM? Just bad choices.

2) Free stream quality was perfectly fine, and I was pretty impressed. Didn't get the HD stream because it just looked the same to me.

3) JP and Sean were so good together... but you know what duo would be perfect? Chill/Sean... I think I just wet myself putting those two names together like that. Make it happen.

4) This tourney format was not very good. A three game final because the loser bracket guy comes in at a disadvantage? How is that inspired in any way at all... Group stages into single elim is the way to go for sure. Although maybe you guys didn't do it this way b/c you had no way of seeding people. Now that we have seeds, it should be much easier.

5) Final complaint... graphics. Hire a graphics guy or something because brackets, player info, etc should be readily available. Again, this was the first time so you guys didn't know what to expect, now you do.

I know it seems like I'm trashing this program, but I'd like to say I had a BLAST watching this. Thanks for putting on a great show, can't wait to watch the next one.

hellsan631

United States695 Posts

August 29 2010 20:52 GMT

#215

I enjoyed the rotating of casters, and i think day9 did well with husky and HD. I enjoyed the amount of day9.

I do think though, that there were a general lack of matches being cast. Most of the time was spend (i got the hd stream btw), watching commercials or casters talk. I watched all hours of it, and it felt amazing, but looking back, there were a lot of time just spent waiting. Im not complaining so much as saying that there should be 2 games at any one time that could be ready to cast (minus finals of course).

Jeuh

United States31 Posts

August 29 2010 20:54 GMT

#216

Definitely way too much waiting in between games, they need to figure out a better way to do that, possible stream games from games being played live? Like install a livestream or something on each computer and then be able to tap into it whenever you guys want to show games? I'm fine with a little analysis but WAY WAY WAY too much idle time going on in between games. I paid the 10$ to support MLG and some of the games were really intense and fun to watch, but it was obvious this was the first SC2 tournament they'd done...

Merikh

United States918 Posts

August 29 2010 20:54 GMT

#217

More Interviews
More Crowd cuts
Pause/Stop Button on the stream
REAL HD False advertising :D
Please rotate the commercials more, old spice has ALOT of commercials you played like two of the million come on rotate commercials
Easier way to get support, your forums didn't load for most part and it took a while to get the HD login page working might need to optimize the load times
Full-screening the stream cut about half an inch on both sides of the video so the minimap and the user video got cut off

:D just a handful of things I seen.

The PWNion

Canada39 Posts

August 29 2010 20:55 GMT

#218

On August 30 2010 05:54 Merikh wrote:

[*] REAL HD

False advertising :D
.

In defense mode: they stated the quality of HD, as it is a relative term when you think about it.

Malinor

Germany4721 Posts

August 29 2010 21:04 GMT

#219

1) I would really like it if the audience/ the general location would be shown more often on the stream. 95% of the time it is either the casters or 4-5 guys in front of 2 computers and everything around them is black. You can hear the screams in the background, but you don't really take part in the atmosphere. One additional guy with a camera running around would be great

2) Try to incorporate a certain race balance at the sign ups. Only 3 zergs is just terrible.

3) BRACKETS: This is not about the SC2 tournament (because I checked the brackets via teamliquid), but for the love of god, please consider this. Every single time I watch WoW at MLG, I just wanna take a short look at the brackets. And each time I spend at least 15minutes finding the brackets somewhere hidden, and the layout is completely terrible. There never is a simple overview that just tells me which team is in which group or at what stage in the elimination brackets.
Today for Raleigh: If I click on "standings" on top of the stream page, I get the qualifying teams for the 2009 grand finals. Below the stream there is a button "Brackets" (woho), but of course it is never working, everything is empty. When I go to gotfrag, three quarters of the page consists of 2009 results and each link about Ralegih brings my back to the stream where I don't find any results.
I like to think that I'm not a complete moron and should be able to find that stuff faster.

Please, just give me a simple bracket-page for each game with a completely unfancey overview, just team names and results, which is updated constantly. This could enhance my viewing pleasure into purchasing HD-stream dimensions.

That being said, all in all the SC2 torunament was very well done. Relatively fast paced and pretty diversified with four different casters.