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Good:
-$10 Wide-screen stream quality was really great, only thing to be improved was the extreme contrast.
-Quality casters, Day[9]/JP and HD/Husky were all great, it wasn't strictly necessary to have all 4, but the different styles were refreshing
-Octoshape is great, zero lag for the entire stream.
Meh:
-Rewind feature is nice I guess, but the only time I needed to use it it didn't go back in time far enough.
Bad:
-Horrible game selection and coverage. In the first three hours on the first day you showed exclusively 3 pros stomping on noobs despite all the great games going on. Tons of favorite were eliminated while you showed mediocre games.
-**Fuck your ads** I paid $10 to see this stream and 50% of the time was taken up with advertisements.
- You also had random frat boys talking about halo and sports while tons of amazing SC2 games were missed (You didn't even cast the semi-finals of the losers bracket)
Conclusion: IEM was lightyears ahead of you guys, they showed almost every single game, on two simultaneous streams. I would pay again to watch their stream, for future MLG events I'll just watch the pirate re-streams. Unless they improve a LOT, they're not getting any more of my money.
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I have to disagree with some of the comments being made about Husky. While he may be a turn off for the more hardcore crowd, eSports needs to have a Husky in order to make it more accessible. Believe me, as somebody who can understand the Korean casters -- they're FAR worse. I think with a little more experience he'll be fine (also a lot of this is the fault of the stage directors).
As others have said, more defined roles would have been fine. If you have 4 casters 2 can be on the floor at all times and what-not.
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I had a lot of fun watching it, up until all the Zerg were eliminated. I still watched some of the games after that, but one of my favorite parts of watching tournaments is seeing what the top Z players like to do in different situations. While the game is still fun to watch, I just don't understand T/P as much, and I have a harder time getting into it.
I've seen some complaints about the commentators, but I thought you all did a great job. HD could use to play the game a bit more though  Seems like hes always deferring to others to try and predict their moves and such.
I also think it would be a great idea to have a second stage / backup set of commentators and comment more games total, something like IEM did, with a set of commentators of the lesser games. Even though they aren't big names, it still fun to watch.
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On August 30 2010 03:10 ekaj wrote:
I'm baffled at how a double elimination tourney is any harder to follow.
I think the biggest reason is just because they didn't show any brackets. It was just up to our best guesswork to figure it out.
Also, I was confused because I'm not someone who has followed a lot of tournaments before. I've never encountered a double elimination, it was something completely new to me. And new things are confusing.
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Invite more zerg next time please... you invited Slush, Machine, and Sheth? Versus 14 terran and 8 protoss? Obviously you want the best matchups, but the more balanced the races are in numbers, the better. TvT and PvP are significantly worse matchups to watch than anything else in the game right now. ZvZ isn't great, but it is way more entertaining.
The edges cutting off in full screen sucked.
I never really like HD or Husky, but after this event I thought they were really good. Yeah, they don't bring the same knowledge as Day9, but they were extremely enthusiastic and I think they really contributed to the excitement of Socke vs Drewbie Game 3.
I also think you guys should spend more time casting with each other. It'd be cool if you had a "qualifier" for the tournament beforehand, and casted it remotely. The best part would be having content for the vamp time in between matches. If bnetuser123 qualified through the online tournament beforehand, show highlights of his road to MLG. This shouldn't exclude invitees, but maybe have 32 come from an online qualifier instead of selling passes.
Overall, it was exciting, I enjoyed it, I hate that there are no VoDs for the matches I missed or replays to download that I can find.
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On August 30 2010 03:16 Lysogen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 03:10 ekaj wrote:
I'm baffled at how a double elimination tourney is any harder to follow.
I think the biggest reason is just because they didn't show any brackets. It was just up to our best guesswork to figure it out. Also, I was confused because I'm not someone who has followed a lot of tournaments before. I've never encountered a double elimination, it was something completely new to me. And new things are confusing.
They said multiple times on stream and it was probably in the first day thread that the bracket was on gotfrag.com, which yes it was screwed up the first day <_<, but they fixed it quickly.
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i loved the event i would however like to see more matches i don't know what to do about that other then perhaps let a organization like glhf.tv come in and help out like they did with the IEM. My only grip would be Husky but thats just my own personal preference and to each there own.
i'm curious what MLG thinks of this first sc2 event like how big of a success it was and what if any changes will be planed for the next event.
oh and stop all the bitching about 10 dollars if you want sc2 and e-sports in general to grow its going to take the whole e-sports community chipping in even if that is as simple as forking over 10 dollars (and don't act like 10 dollars is a lot...i don't have a job and i afforded it)
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I didn't read the thread so sorry if someone said this.
This is something sorely missing: GAME SOUND.
All I could hear were casters voices. Many people want to be able to hear the pew pew lasers and explosions. It's all about immersion!
This is an easy fix and it helps so much to make casts more exciting
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Ah yeah, what airety said, No VoDs that I can find, and the screen edges were cut off when I tried to play it in full screen
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It needs to be more polished. When transferring from casting to interview or casting to commercial...there was always like a 10 second delay in which we see the casters talking are just staring at the camera. It does not look professional and you guys want this to become mainstream...that "polish" has to be address. Also, the backgrounds behind the casters look cheesy. when the casting around look more "glorious" if that is what you want to call it. People are superficial like that and could attract more people. More people means more sponsors which means more money for you guys to reinvest it into MLG.
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+ Great Casting
+ Alot Of Good Players
- When in full screen, couldnt see the whole minimap (free stream)
- Show some brackets
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On August 30 2010 03:16 Lysogen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 03:10 ekaj wrote:
I'm baffled at how a double elimination tourney is any harder to follow.
I think the biggest reason is just because they didn't show any brackets. It was just up to our best guesswork to figure it out. Also, I was confused because I'm not someone who has followed a lot of tournaments before. I've never encountered a double elimination, it was something completely new to me. And new things are confusing.
Brackets were up on gotfrag (owned by MLG) and was spammed countless time in the TL IRC and also the forums. But yeah maybe Brad should have included those in the op but by asking on the forums you would have been directed to it. Well, double elimination is a format commonly used in esports but if it's the first time you see it then I can understand. But I will say you will have to get used to the double-elimination because non-Korean tournaments tend to use it and you are going to see pretty often.
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On August 30 2010 03:21 Macki wrote:
i loved the event i would however like to see more matches i don't know what to do about that other then perhaps let a organization like glhf.tv come in and help out like they did with the IEM. My only grip would be Husky but thats just my own personal preference and to each there own.
i'm curious what MLG thinks of this first sc2 event like how big of a success it was and what if any changes will be planed for the next event.
oh and stop all the bitching about 10 dollars if you want sc2 and e-sports in general to grow its going to take the whole e-sports community chipping in even if that is as simple as forking over 10 dollars (and don't act like 10 dollars is a lot...i don't have a job and i afforded it)
People who barely follow boxing, pay out $50 for a pay-per-view event. "Fans" of eSports are bitching about 10 dollars with a free stream available as well.
Really complaining about ads? So sorry that they provide us free entertainment while they pay their bills? No wait, we live in a world were everything is free because mommy loves us and pays for everything.
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small touch up would be to get in game sounds, as well as go to the countdown screen for the last 5 seconds, broodwar style.
Another thing, dont bother paying JP and Husky to cast, Day9 and HD were leaps and bounds ahead of them, get Husky to do play by play, and day9 to give strategic insight and his player knowledge.
these are a few things i think that would improve the viewer quality.
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there was some technical difficulty with the stream that removed a good portion of the sides which really ruined a lot of the tournament for me. the quality was excellent compared to the earlier years when MLG made the free quality awful to make people pay for it.
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I thought the event was great. I wasn't keen on Husky and HD, but HD and D9 did make a pretty decent team. The best team, in my opinion, was JP & Day9.
One thing that bugged me was the down time between games. At some points, there was an hour wait between games. I understand that there aren't games happening live at all times, but what's stopping the commentators from commentating from some replays of recently played games?
Anyhow - keep up the good work. Look forward to watching future events.
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I was a spec.
Please make it so that we can actually listen to the commentators.... we paid to watch and we couldn't even listen to Day9 cast during the matches.
Buy some sound canceling booths or headphones for featured matches
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I loved the event overall. There were some great games (drewbie vs socke from day 1, huk vs kiwikaki in the winners bracket final, etc.) and the casting was top notch. My only real complaint was with the quality of the HD stream. Simply put, it wasn't HD and honestly there was no difference between the HD and SD stream at all aside from the DVR functionality (which was cool). I definitely don't mind paying 10 bucks for some extra quality, but it wasn't there this time around. I knew going in it was only suppose to be 480p but both streams appeared to be 360p to me. Also, both the SD and HD streams seemed kind of dark. I'm not sure what can be done about that but its something to look into. Aside from that though I thought it was a great event and I'm looking forward to the next one!
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Well, this is a critcal thread, and unfortunatly there isn't much on what you guys did right, which was a hell of a lot.
I was a fan of the rotating commentators, no NONE of them were perfect, but people forget that it is impossible to keep perfect focus for 6 hours. Rotating casters over such a long period is almost manditory. I love the energy that husky brings to the games.
A bracket visual bracket is so neccesary, yet there was an explaintion of a link to a bracket, but if one exsisted it isn't too hard to put it up on the steam once and a while.
There were litterally moments for me where a cast would call "we are not down to X people left" and I would be shocking, have no clue what happened to the vast majority...
Please keep some slots open for new names, don't listen to the haters!
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