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shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 28 2010 20:39 GMT
#81
i just hate how all the top players playing are terran.

only 3 zergs we had were machine and slush and catz kinda.

but i'd rather watch brood war any day of the week over sc2 right now, i'm sure i'll love sc2 once innovative play/amazing and exciting micro and big, prestigious tourneys come.
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 28 2010 20:40 GMT
#82
On August 29 2010 05:39 shawster wrote:
i just hate how all the top players playing are terran.

only 3 zergs we had were machine and slush and catz kinda.

but i'd rather watch brood war any day of the week over sc2 right now, i'm sure i'll love sc2 once innovative play/amazing and exciting micro and big, prestigious tourneys come.



You mean once the GSL starts up?
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
August 28 2010 20:41 GMT
#83
People don't understand PvP that well. Yes there are these kind of rock paper scissors builds where one build beats another build, but loses to another, etc. However, there is a lot of micro involved at this level of play because every unit counts so much in PvP. The games have been great and will continue to be great.
Life is Good.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 28 2010 20:41 GMT
#84
On August 29 2010 05:37 Zeridian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 05:35 travis wrote:
This thread is shit and so are most of the people in it. What exactly is it you people are expecting, lol.

There have been some FANTASTIC games in this especially for a game thats been out 1 month.

lol, i just called people shit


actually after checking the thread closer it seems about half the people in here actually do have a brain

Nice quality posting there.

Also if you weren't happy with the ways the Ts were playing, you will be happy to know the final 3 are all protoss. So moar PVps!


ty i was really worried about the quality of my posting in this thread
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:42:47
August 28 2010 20:42 GMT
#85
I actually really enjoy this torunament. Tons of games have been casted and the donwtimes are reasonable, I have watched MLG events where there was like 45 minutes between each casted WoW-series. The casters are doing a good job (although I'm not convinced that HD has a good understanding of the game).

It's unfortunate that the last few series were all pvp, but what you gonna do. Must be very hard for all those guys lurking the LR-thread who just waited for the right moment to tell us how broken terran is.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
SiegeFlank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States410 Posts
August 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#86
I don't think it's really fair to complain about MMM (or any build for that matter) for the reason of repetition, just because so many players are using it over and over. Look at brood war for a moment. Terran almost always goes vultures/tanks and protoss will go mass ground army. Hundreds of games have been played with people using the same, strong builds over and over, and yet many of them are still entertaining to watch just because of the decisions the players make and their abilities to manage their units so well. There's a HUGE difference between playing with MMM at bronze level and at pro level. When a commentator talks about countering, there's so much more going on than just making the right units. If you can look beyond unit compositions alone, most of the games were actually really exciting to watch.

Bird up
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#87
On August 29 2010 05:39 shawster wrote:
i just hate how all the top players playing are terran.

only 3 zergs we had were machine and slush and catz kinda.

but i'd rather watch brood war any day of the week over sc2 right now, i'm sure i'll love sc2 once innovative play/amazing and exciting micro and big, prestigious tourneys come.


what are you talking about?

i dont get any part of your post.

which top players?

you only talking about american zergs?

iem not big? gsl not big?



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raybasto
Profile Joined April 2010
United States151 Posts
August 28 2010 20:43 GMT
#88
Boring. Tvt, Tvp, and Pvp all day. Next time, invite more Zerg players?
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bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
August 28 2010 20:48 GMT
#89
On August 29 2010 04:39 Nyx wrote:
The play at IEM spoilt us -_-

Give me MorroW vs Dimaga again


The general turn out seemed poor compared to the IEM global challenge. Nearly all the games were extremely boring in comparison, Maybe Euro players just make for a more interesting tourney.
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
August 28 2010 20:49 GMT
#90
As a Zerg watching this MLG series; very boring. But that's my biased view.

Hopefully by next event we'll be a couple patches in and start seeing more Zerg progress through.
Jaug
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden249 Posts
August 28 2010 20:50 GMT
#91
Kind of agree, just haven't been that exciting games. PvP is just 4gate vs 4gate totally boring, TvP is a little bit more fun but still the MLG players seem to stay to standard tactics and build not really mixing it up. Could have to do with the fact that these are not elite players of the world.
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
August 28 2010 20:50 GMT
#92
You dont like MMM? I dont like zerg strategy. Mainly because all they have are like 5 units. Thats it.

Every zerg starts out with zerglings, maybe a few banelings. Then he either goes roach or muta. Rarely goes hydra. Late game it's pretty much the same, maybe even a few corrupters.

Same thing.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:57:34
August 28 2010 20:53 GMT
#93
On August 29 2010 05:43 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 05:39 shawster wrote:
i just hate how all the top players playing are terran.

only 3 zergs we had were machine and slush and catz kinda.

but i'd rather watch brood war any day of the week over sc2 right now, i'm sure i'll love sc2 once innovative play/amazing and exciting micro and big, prestigious tourneys come.


what are you talking about?

i dont get any part of your post.

which top players?

you only talking about american zergs?

iem not big? gsl not big?





check the mlg raleigh entry in liquipedia

there are no foreign zergs in THIS tourney

iem isn't as big as osl or msl but i think that's a bad comparison. obviously brood war is more prestigious atm, it's not like i hate sc2. i love sc2 but i just think brood war is more exciting atm. yeah ofc im pumped for gsl. i think the game is in an fantastic place for only being a month old. probably gonna be the most competitive esports game ever.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
August 28 2010 20:54 GMT
#94
On August 29 2010 05:50 Deadlyfish wrote:
You dont like MMM? I dont like zerg strategy. Mainly because all they have are like 5 units. Thats it.

Every zerg starts out with zerglings, maybe a few banelings. Then he either goes roach or muta. Rarely goes hydra. Late game it's pretty much the same, maybe even a few corrupters.

Same thing.

What the fuck?

A zerg player doesn't have the option to go for any other units early game, as that's all the units he has. How is that the same thing?
Iggyhopper
Profile Joined July 2010
United States259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 20:57:01
August 28 2010 20:56 GMT
#95
On August 29 2010 04:47 Zozo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 04:42 Eiserne wrote:
On August 29 2010 04:41 Kennigit wrote:
On August 29 2010 04:40 cr4ckshot wrote:
If you want to see innovative play, big money tournaments aren't the source. You may get a glimpse of creative plays, but that's pretty much it.

What sort of evidence do you have for a statement like this?

It's logical reasoning. Big money encourages plays that win. Innovative is unreliable.


Shit, broodwar never had room for creativity right?

...
It's also how old? Compare that to a game that's not even 6 weeks old.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 21:00:42
August 28 2010 21:00 GMT
#96
On August 29 2010 05:49 Spiffeh wrote:
As a Zerg watching this MLG series; very boring. But that's my biased view.

Hopefully by next event we'll be a couple patches in and start seeing more Zerg progress through.


god stop blaming balance for evry small tourneytrend. iem had 2 zergs in the top3. no P made it out of group. now we have mass Ps evrywhere and no zergs. different players that perform differently. that just happens.
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Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
August 28 2010 21:00 GMT
#97
On August 29 2010 05:54 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2010 05:50 Deadlyfish wrote:
You dont like MMM? I dont like zerg strategy. Mainly because all they have are like 5 units. Thats it.

Every zerg starts out with zerglings, maybe a few banelings. Then he either goes roach or muta. Rarely goes hydra. Late game it's pretty much the same, maybe even a few corrupters.

Same thing.

What the fuck?

A zerg player doesn't have the option to go for any other units early game, as that's all the units he has. How is that the same thing?


He said Terran was boring to watch, i said Zerg was boring to watch.

Obviously, both statements are an exaggeration.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
dotFX
Profile Joined May 2010
United States131 Posts
August 28 2010 21:01 GMT
#98
I would still be excited even if everyone worker rushed every game....

Starcraft 2 is fucking awsome u guiz
Democracy is an Illusion
BrahminKing
Profile Joined October 2006
United States4 Posts
August 28 2010 21:01 GMT
#99
I personally dont find it boring. I came from Warcraft III and I'm very much used to seeing the same strategies used over and over again only with slight variances. Like for instance orc going bm/sh grunt/raider/spirit every match up every map. The entertainment value(at least for me) doesnt come down to the strategy used but how its utilized. Seeing how they use it and how other players react is enjoyable as there is always variances. There is no such thing as 2 perfectly identicle games.
Lighioana
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway466 Posts
August 28 2010 21:01 GMT
#100
I find MLG boring because of the missing crowd feeling.
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